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[QUOTE="David, post: 995844, member: 426"] The mistake you are making is that you think you are an isolated 'you' and 'out there' is somehow a separate thing .. therefore that 'religious' people believe that a God on a rope can drop down and 'do something' ... but it is not your "[I]absence rather than a presence[/I]" on Camino, it is the exact opposite. The universe is one thing and there are no separate parts. True, there are different shapes but it is only one thing - we cannot be separate from it in any way ... add in consciousness and we have what the Hindu describes as "not one, not two" - the illusion of being 'separate' .... the universe manifested is one thing and our seeing ourselves (or anything else) as separate is an illusion, a delusion. St Paul put it well "[I]We live and move and have our Being within God[/I]" - is the same thing but described differently, his awareness that the Universe (which he sees as God - as do I) is one thing. What may happen on Camino is that with everyone away from their homes and worries and ties we flow into an awareness of how the universe actually works, that oneness, that moving and living within this extraordinary manifestation .... and how it can work, if allowed, is to fill a vacuum so need can be answered .... there are just too many stories of this happening on Camino for it to be ignored or brushed off, don't you think? As for your "[I]the discomfort of how vulnerable we can feel when we throw caution to the wind and just trust that we will cope with whatever comes"[/I] Again, I do not see it like this. Everyone I meet out there has been empowered and become brave by that very throwing caution to the wind - the unhappy and fearful ones being the ones who found themselves unable to do that, to let go and trust that all will be well. If one lives one life, one's awareness, of how the universe is .. well, these things happen off Camino too - all the time. Here is a tiny thing. I wanted/needed a Vegetarian cookbook. Not a fancy '50 recipes' one but a real 'complete' Vegetarian cookbook. So yesterday I trawled the charity shops, then Waterstones bookshop (way TOO expensive and not the right style either). This morning I thought [I]"oh, what about that charity shop that is at the other end of town, I forgot about that one[/I]" - Aww, but it is a long way to walk - Go There. Aww, but it is raining - Go There ... so I went there. On the bookshelves the cookery books had been stacked horizontally. On the top of the stack was "The Complete Book of Vegetarian Cooking", ready for me to pick up .. was the only Veggie book there too - so went home with exactly what I wanted/needed. Now this serendipity can be brushed of as coincidence, but it wasn't. it was co-incidence, and this is exactly how the universe works. So on Camino? Of course, how else could it be??? [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_20220215_134623383_HDR.jpg"]118573[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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