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Just back from walking from Porto to SdC and wanted to share a few observations, still a bit knocked out from travelling so excuse the rambling.

First of all, I abandoned my original plan to walk the coastal route after walking out to Matosinhos and discovering that, in the heatwave at the end of April, even the sea breeze was not alleviating the blistering temperatures. I also realised that I like walking through villages where life is centred on agriculture and has a discernible rhythm to it. I did not enjoy walking on roads with no space for pedestrians and with drivers who had no respect for the well-being of pilgrims, mercifully this was a short part of the overall Camino. I agree with all those here on the forum who testify to the friendliness of the Portuguese people and the wonderful food. I even enjoyed a Francesinha sandwich although I think this might be a once-in-a-lifetime pleasure.

The Pilgrims' Mass at Barcelos was one of the highlights of the journey and the few of us attending there were made exceptionally welcome. After the evening mass we were given a personal blessing from the very friendly priest, then invited to the Vestry to sign a book with entries from previous pilgrims followed by gifts of a decorated stone - to leave along the way where we thought appropriate for us - and a small decorated cockle shell. The stay at Casa Fernanda was a delight. I arrived barely compos mentis after walking for far too long in the heat, and was lucky to have reserved a space. The French couple I had walked with had not done so, and had to be turned away. Fernanda and her husband are so committed to supporting pilgrims, and it showed in the thought that has gone into providing facilities and an environment that enables exhausted walkers to refresh themselves, relax, and socialise - the evening meal was delicious, plentiful and forged friendships that lasted to SdC - and beyond?

The undisputable low point was the stay at the albergue in Pontevedre. It is a very good building and the hospitalero who checked us all in was friendly and efficient, but some of the people staying there seemed not to understand about consideration for others, partying until the early hours, then coming (and exiting) into the dormitory with torches and starting to prepare the bed with the disposable sheet & pillowcase they had been given almost 12 hours earlier. I ended up taking my bedding and sleeping in the reception area. On the good side, there was a cheap breakfast available from the train station - almost next door to the albergue - which opens even before the earliest pilgrim rises.

I stayed in a mixture of albergues and private accommodation with another pilgrim I had met at Casa Fernanda and can recommend Residencial Portas do Sol in Valenca, the rooms are excellent, the bathrooms luxurious and it is centrally located in the old part of Valenca, and the owner is a perfect gentleman. He went beyond the call of duty when I left something behind. Such kindness to pilgrims deserves our support. Less bijou in appearance but with everything a pilgrim needs - including a bath - was La Moderna in Caldas de Rais. Jose, the owner, is a lovely person, so helpful in advising on where to get laundry done cheaply - and quickly - plus a gratis tortilla (made by his wife) boccadillo in a bag left hanging on the door in the morning.

This was a very different Camino to last year's walk from SJPDP and some stages to my mind are demanding, not because of the terrain but the uncertainty of locating food and accommodation. There is a rhythm to the Frances that was not there in my experience of walking the Portuguese, but then I did not start in Lisbon.

The best part was undoubtedly the people I met along the way, both locals and other pilgrims. When asked if I would do it again I would have to say no because the journey almost always felt like a walk rather than a Camino, and often I felt like a tourist rather than a pilgrim. But strangely, the arrival in SdC and the Pilgrims' Mass (both the Cathedral service and the English Mass) were more meaningful to me than last year. I was prepared for the flashing cameras during the service this time but cannot reconcile the notion of people in a consecrated building photographing the giving of the sacrament.
 
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Enjoyed your post and found it very informative. What sort of temperatures do you consider a heat wave? I am planning to walk from Lisbon starting at the end of August so it will be mid September by the time I embark on the coastal route from Porto. Prior to that I am walking Hadrian' Wall Path so I hope the UK can save me some reasonable weather for that.
 
Enjoyed your post and found it very informative. What sort of temperatures do you consider a heat wave? I am planning to walk from Lisbon starting at the end of August so it will be mid September by the time I embark on the coastal route from Porto. Prior to that I am walking Hadrian' Wall Path so I hope the UK can save me some reasonable weather for that.

Margaret, you rightly ask what I consider a heatwave as, living in Scotland it might start at a significantly lower point of the thermometer than for other forum members. For much of the time I was in Portugal the temperature was in the mid to high twenties, when I reached Pontevedre it was 32 degrees. This weather, I was told by locals was not typical, and the week before I arrived there had been exceptionally heavy rainfalls. I could see this when travelling up to Porto by train from Lisbon and saw fields and even vineyards flooded. The tourist boats on the Douro at Porto were not operating because the river levels were so high and therefore making the waterways dangerous for transport. I am sure that you will have good weather for the time of your Camino at the end of August, but being a pale-skinned Brit, I had to use factor 50 sun protection so when I arrived home my daughter was more tanned than I was.
You will enjoy Hadrian's Wall but expect to experience a little bit of everything that constitutes weather and be prepared for the cold winds that whip along that route. It is reported that the Romans soldiers who built it once rioted when their porridge provisions were cut, and you will understand why if you get a blustery day. Buen Camino!
 
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Many thanks for your reply. Just checking that I have prepared appropriately with the correct idea in mind. Fortunately I have been training in our summer with temperatures often over 30 and high humidity. Unfortunately I will now go into a winter. I take your point about your sunscreen but notice that my makeup foundation is UVF 50. Not that makeup will be in my pack. Ozone hole a real issue here. I am preparing for some trying weather along Hadrian's Wall as I well recall some vicious conditions back in the mid seventies when my late husband and I lived in UK for a brief, busy year. We came across several pieces of the wall on our explorations; before there was an official pathway. It was always our intention to return so now I finally so. Talk about procrastinating!
I have enjoyed you "ramblings" and would enjoy other memories that you might recall. Also, where did you abandon the coastal route? At Vila do Conde?
 
Doing the same route in September, heading inland from Vilo do Conde. The route from there to Rates does not seem very clear. Any advice? Thanks
 
I did not go further than Matosinhos, but many people I met later walked up to Vilo do Conde and those who stayed at the brand new albergue there were positive. No-one I encountered reported any difficulties in heading inland to San Pedro do Rates. I stayed at the albergue there and liked the atmosphere of the place, there is a small shop nearby and a bar/restaurant within walking distance. I probably got the last available bed when I arrived and, being very tired, I walked all through the (beautiful) village despairing before I discovered the albergue to be on the way out. I will send an email to some fellow pilgrims who walked to Vilo do Conde for their comments about trekking inland and post them here when they get back to me.

A word about the albergue in Ponte de Lima - it is beautifully situated, in a modernised old building, good (but communal) shower (separate rooms for men and women) but with the dreaded plastic mattresses. Didn't sleep well because of the squeaking of my own and other pilgrims' beds all night. The next stage after Ponte de Lima is a long one so if you want to buy small amounts of bread, cheese, chorizo and fruit there is a tiny supermarket you will find going back to town over the bridge and turning left to the street in front of you. The shopkeeper was so helpful and deserves our custom. Also the hospitalero recommended the restaurant Mercado where a group of us enjoyed a wonderful pilgrims menu of high quality and low cost.

In the Brierley book my impressions of what Porrino would be like were entirely negative, it was a lovely surprise therefore to discover that it is a pretty town with a great pizza restaurant with lots of outside seating near the plaza. My pulpo pizza was a delight.

I will post more information as I unpack all my papers.
 
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Enjoyed your post and found it very informative. What sort of temperatures do you consider a heat wave? I am planning to walk from Lisbon starting at the end of August so it will be mid September by the time I embark on the coastal route from Porto. Prior to that I am walking Hadrian' Wall Path so I hope the UK can save me some reasonable weather for that.
Enjoyed your post and found it very informative. What sort of temperatures do you consider a heat wave? I am planning to walk from Lisbon starting at the end of August so it will be mid September by the time I embark on the coastal route from Porto. Prior to that I am walking Hadrian' Wall Path so I hope the UK can save me some reasonable weather for that.
Hi, Margaret and SEB. Your post caught my eye. My husband and I are walking Hadrians Wall Path in mid-June, and I am noting your remarks about the wind and weather. I would appreciate any advice about Hadrians Wall. I am also following posts on the Portuguese camino which I would like to travel another time. I went to Porto after my Camino Frances last June, and I enjoyed the city and its ambience very much.
 
I am not walking Hadrian's Wall path until mid August, just before the bank holiday. SEB would be in a better position to tell you about the weather. But with any walk that involves hills and valleys and at that latitude you should expect a variety of weather and wind conditions. Some recommend that you walk from west to east to have the prevailing wind behind you but in my experience the wind always seems to be head on whenever I walk/cycle anywhere. Trailblazer has a great book by Henry Stedman that has a lot of detail and information.
I will be starting my Camino Portuguese after the Hadrian's wall walk. Plan to start on 26 August. Lisbon-Porto and then the coastal route rejoining the central route at Arcade. I will attempt to post my progress if my tech skills meet the requirements. I am walking solo but I know I will not be alone. I have been 30 years in the planning so don't delay!
 
Is out there anybody who is going to walk the Camino Portugese in July and August. I'm leaving for Lisbon on 6th of July and I am planing to start walking two days later. I would be realy happy if I find some company. Anybody???
 
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Doing the same route in September, heading inland from Vilo do Conde. The route from there to Rates does not seem very clear. Any advice? Thanks

It is not.....2014, My son and I followed the markers heading out from Villa do Conde until.....nothing, at which point we asked anyone and everyone, and kept asking, where is Sao Pedro de Rates...and we found it.

Good Luck and Buen Camino
 
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Thank you KariC. I am glad it was useful.
For anyone travelling the Portuguese who needs to ship stuff to Santiago before they start walking, I would suggest using the Correios service at any main post office in Portugal. The person behind the counter who dealt with my package was so helpful and I simply chose the appropriate size box from the display shelf when I got my numbered ticket, and then packed the box at the counter when my number came up on the display. The post office clerk deals with sealing the box etc. I am not certain but I think it cost 18 euros to mail up to 10 kilos and the box itself was very cheap. This includes a tracking service. I arranged with Ivar to store and deliver my box to where I was staying, and he emailed me on receipt.

Don't forget that the post offices in Spain will also stamp your credencial and that showing the pilgrims passport allows you free entry to many cathedrals and other buildings in Spain.

The best place was breakfast on the Portuguese route was the first stop after Caldas de Reis. Any pilgrims yearning for a cooked breakfast - eggs, sausage and bacon - will find heaven on a plate at Cafe Esperon. On my visit it was very busy, but the staff combine efficiency with friendliness so expect quick service.

An observation about the last Brierley stage from Padron to SdC. With his emphasis on hills, it can sometimes sound as if this last stretch is a killer. I walked with a peregrina who had broken her ankle last year, s, of necessity, she had to walk slowly. We left Padron at 6.30, had a first breakfast at a transport-type cafe on the main road. Then it was a gentle walk all the way, like a mirage a mobile cafe emerged just after the factory mentioned by Brierley - no servicios of course, just a van with benches outside and an awning, so when a crowd of pilgrims arrived in Milladoiro the toilets in the basement of the Hypermarket you pass by were a welcome relief! After that we were fortunate in having a sufficiently clear sky to see the cathedral towers in the distance (beckoning as if so close, mocking, as fatigue made the distance yet to cover appear endless). We took the non-scenic route - allegedly shorter by .75km than the riverside route - which goes up by the hospital. This was the hardest part and seemed to go on forever - but that is the end of a Camino for you.
 
I am not walking Hadrian's Wall path until mid August, just before the bank holiday. SEB would be in a better position to tell you about the weather. But with any walk that involves hills and valleys and at that latitude you should expect a variety of weather and wind conditions. Some recommend that you walk from west to east to have the prevailing wind behind you but in my experience the wind always seems to be head on whenever I walk/cycle anywhere. Trailblazer has a great book by Henry Stedman that has a lot of detail and information.
I will be starting my Camino Portuguese after the Hadrian's wall walk. Plan to start on 26 August. Lisbon-Porto and then the coastal route rejoining the central route at Arcade. I will attempt to post my progress if my tech skills meet the requirements. I am walking solo but I know I will not be alone. I have been 30 years in the planning so don't delay!
Margaret, I just got the Stedman guide. It looks very good. Thanks for the suggestion. Buan camino!
 
We, Cathy from Melbourne and Patti from Boston and myself, started our walk from Porto to SDC on 3 May 2016. we followed the coastal route all the way up to Valencia and crossed over the RIO MINHO to Tui. The weather on the first three days was absolutely wonderful, the scenery of Atlantic ocean and Portuguese seaside villages is stunning and then it started to rain and rain and rain........
We were caught in downpours almost on a daily basis until we reached SDC - a few sunny hours now and again!
The albergues along the way, well, most were good, some average and maybe 1 or 2 very, very bad.
Portuguese people are very friendly.
Overall....a wonderful enlightning experience! Would recommend the coastal route - CAMNHO DA COSTA - any day!
 
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