Pathfinder075
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- Time of past OR future Camino
- Various Routes in (2016), (2017) and (2023).
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Yeah it is good for lubrication, but doesn't moisturise, it tends to sit on the top of the skin. Some years back someone posted about using it while walking but had ended up with blisters under the hardened callous layer of their feet, which required an hour at a podiatrist and removal of the callous by scalpel.vasoline is great on the Camino for your feet
The first time that I walked the Camino Frances, I took it easy with no rigid schedule. Nothing written in stone. I took days off when I wanted. I took a day off was in Roncesvalles (hotel) because I was stiff and sore and there was a snow storm outside. I took a day off was in Pamplona because I had some personal issues to deal with. I took a day off was in Leon to see a doctor about my infected foot from the blisters. But I did walk around 59 kilometers on my last day. I had not planned that but that is how the day evolved. Remember you are walking for you and not for anyone else. By that I mean you must walk at your pace, you must enjoy what you enjoy and limit what you don't.I’ll be starting my first Camino in just over a month. Like many of you, I’ve read the guidebooks, travel literature, perused this site quite thoroughly, followed blogs, have watched vlogs and YouTube Camino videos. I think I have a good idea of what to expect.
But how about you non-first timers? What was it on the CF that was unexpected for you? What surprises were there that were not mentioned in the various media?
Positive or negative - anything’s ok.
A few things stand out, but I will only mention two. First, the friendliness of not only our hosts, the Spanish people along the countryside, but I guess more importantly our fellow perigrinos. The Camino does draw people together, the magic of the Camino. Even the most reserved introvert "opens up" on the Camino. It just happens. The friendliness of all, just being "family" becomes very heart warming. Pilgrims (total strangers) sharing their most inner moments and life's experiences with all confidence. Something unheard of in our comfort zone at home.I’ll be starting my first Camino in just over a month. Like many of you, I’ve read the guidebooks, travel literature, perused this site quite thoroughly, followed blogs, have watched vlogs and YouTube Camino videos. I think I have a good idea of what to expect.
But how about you non-first timers? What was it on the CF that was unexpected for you? What surprises were there that were not mentioned in the various media?
Positive or negative - anything’s ok.
I noticed the same change after Sarria.I was surprised at how friendly and helpful the Spanish people were. Especially in the earlier sections. Later after Sarria maybe a little less so….probably due to tourist fatigue. Also, I was surprised at how friendly and helpful other pilgrims were….again more so in the earlier sections. I hope your experience is as positive as mine was. I am going back for my second Camino this fall and hoping to find the same wonderful magic. Good Luck!
Detachment from expectations and experiences is a big one….shared and personal….I’ll be starting my first Camino in just over a month. Like many of you, I’ve read the guidebooks, travel literature, perused this site quite thoroughly, followed blogs, have watched vlogs and YouTube Camino videos. I think I have a good idea of what to expect.
But how about you non-first timers? What was it on the CF that was unexpected for you? What surprises were there that were not mentioned in the various media?
Positive or negative - anything’s ok.
Well said. I'm with you....No real thought of it being a spiritual adventure. By the time I reached Santiago, it was much more a spiritual experience! So many conversations, experiences where “The Camino Provides “, and coincidences that happened so often, they could not be called coincidences! ...
Totally agree with this. MickWhat surprised me was the friendliness of the general population of Spain . Of course I had heard of and read of it , though nothing is quite so charming and delightful as finding out that for the most part , it's absolutely true .
I was surprised of the fact taht Camino called me back a year later in 2019 and again in 2023.I’ll be starting my first Camino in just over a month. Like many of you, I’ve read the guidebooks, travel literature, perused this site quite thoroughly, followed blogs, have watched vlogs and YouTube Camino videos. I think I have a good idea of what to expect.
But how about you non-first timers? What was it on the CF that was unexpected for you? What surprises were there that were not mentioned in the various media?
Positive or negative - anything’s ok.
I did it in 2001 and am planning a return this coming spring, but taking a couple of the variant routes, so there actually won't be too much overlap. The first time, I did do SOME research (this was in books, mostly -- there weren't a zillion YouTube videos and blogs) to decide which sections I wanted to do, since I was somewhat limited in time. I chose them based on the pictures in the books -- picked the sections with the most beautiful landscape. Somehow it didn't occur to me that that was mostly because there were mountains involved and it would be tough going in those parts! I was living in Spain for research purposes that year and already spoke Spanish and knew a lot about the history (I'm a historian of Spain), food, culture, etc. Other that deciding on the parts to do, I didn't do much research. Went to an info session at the Madrid office of the Friends of the Camino, and that was it. I was a grad student at the time and had no money, so I didn't shop for or buy any certain clothing, equipment, footwear, etc. I posted an ad somewhere asking if anyone had a backpack I could borrow, and someone actually loaned me the backpack I used. I wore my regular walking/running shoes and regular old clothes (sometimes in 2 layers of it when it was chilly, but basic sweats and things, not high-tech). I had really no expectations except that it would be different from any other travel I'd ever done. I went mostly because I was curious about what it would be like to walk that far.OP here. I’m surprised at how many responded with comments to the effect that they arrived on the Camino with no expectations or pre-planning. And, further, that this is preferable and more liberating.
Really? You didn‘t have any expectations regarding climate, terrain, distance, language, history, geography, food, or culture? You didn’t pre-plan clothing, equipment, or footwear?
Anyway, all responses are appreciated.
Looking back, it was that what came up defied all my expectations. Wonder while wandering, accepting & surrendering to the what is mentally, physically & spiritually.I’ll be starting my first Camino in just over a month. Like many of you, I’ve read the guidebooks, travel literature, perused this site quite thoroughly, followed blogs, have watched vlogs and YouTube Camino videos. I think I have a good idea of what to expect.
But how about you non-first timers? What was it on the CF that was unexpected for you? What surprises were there that were not mentioned in the various media?
Positive or negative - anything’s ok.
Yes, we are here.This forum was the biggest help before my first Camino. Wasted money on books. All the knowledge is here
having completed all but the leon to sarria stage I can honestly say it is the most amazing experience of my life. some blisters. cold showers. sleepless nights but absolutely no regrets. now after a 4yr break hoping to complete the camino frances in april. a bit nervous that I am too old now but that tug to be on the trail is hard to resist. so go for it and beun camino!I’ll be starting my first Camino in just over a month. Like many of you, I’ve read the guidebooks, travel literature, perused this site quite thoroughly, followed blogs, have watched vlogs and YouTube Camino videos. I think I have a good idea of what to expect.
But how about you non-first timers? What was it on the CF that was unexpected for you? What surprises were there that were not mentioned in the various media?
Positive or negative - anything’s ok.
Thankfully, I was ignorant of the many Facebook groups and YouTube videos out there about the Camino and relied on the forum to learn what I needed as far as gear, how to get to SJPdP, etc. before stepping foot on the Camino for the first time.This forum was the biggest help before my first Camino. Wasted money on books. All the knowledge is here
Yeah, I did it in 2001 and no one was ever on a phone. I've been shocked by the accounts I'm seeing of that now. Glad I'll be starting forewarned in the spring because that would have really thrown me for a loop. I've seen pictures of people sitting outside in a patio area of an albergue, all on their phones and not interacting. They leave me aghast. So sad.I was surprised (and so very pleased!) when one night I stayed alone in an albergue in a small village, no other pilgrims arrived. And when the hospitaliera left for the night I was completely alone. I had no TV, no internet, no book. Made no phone calls or texts to friends. There was nothing to distract me. And yet I didn't feel lonely or afraid. I was completely at peace. This was about 2/3 of the way to Santiago. Not sure I would have felt the same in the first 1/3. The miracle of the Camino!
Oh, another thing that surprised me: How many people were on their phones during meals, etc. A friend who had walked the Camino in 2000 told me "no one" would be on phones. That it just wasn't done. What a difference 16 years made!!
Would you feel the same way if they were all reading books?. I've seen pictures of people sitting outside in a patio area of an albergue, all on their phones and not interacting. They leave me aghast. So sad.
Yes!Would you feel the same way if they were all reading books?
Don't be aghast or sad when you see introverts relaxing.They leave me aghast. So sad.
Yes!
And especially on the Camino Frances, those people may have spent the entire day walking/ talking/ interacting with other pilgrims. (Not that we should need to account for how many hours we smile and talk to others.)I love to interact with others
So true. On the other hand, on some routes we've walked in recent years, chosen partly for their smaller numbers of people walking, it's a lovely surprise to see and have a chat with another pilgrim, sometimes the first in days.And especially on the Camino Frances, those people may have spent the entire day walking/ talking/ interacting with other pilgrims.
The best advice I could possibly give you is to listen to your body and take a break when you need to. My first Camino felt a bit like a daily race to get where I wanted to be, but on subsequent trips, I decided what my body would give me each day. Good luck!!I’ll be starting my first Camino in just over a month. Like many of you, I’ve read the guidebooks, travel literature, perused this site quite thoroughly, followed blogs, have watched vlogs and YouTube Camino videos. I think I have a good idea of what to expect.
But how about you non-first timers? What was it on the CF that was unexpected for you? What surprises were there that were not mentioned in the various media?
Positive or negative - anything’s ok.
This beautiful passage could have been written by me … but it wasn’t. Nonetheless, it captures my thoughts and emotions brilliantly. When your play makes it’s way to beautiful Vancouver, Canada, I’ll be there to cheer for you, and shed a tear for what we experienced, years apart, but oh-so-much the same, in our Camino journeys and beyond. I wish you all the success in the world, with the play, and the rest of your journey.the final scene of a play I have written, "Stepping on My Shadow" which is going to be performed in England in May. I think that it answers your question, and I sincerely hope that you have the same experience;
(Takes boots off) Farewell, my faithful footwear friends. You’ve served me well. But now it’s time to say goodbye.
You’ve supported me for one million steps, over mountain ranges and ancient bridges. Across arid plains, through towns, cities, fields and vineyards. On my first day on the Camino, I raised my right foot and stepped on my shadow. And then my left repeated the action and made the same connection with the earth. I did that 40,000 times that day, and then the next day. And the day after that, and again the day after that.
I started this with fear of failure. But now I know I needn't have. I had high expectations, all of which have been greatly exceeded.
I'm ten times physically stronger, more resilient and more determined than I ever thought I could be.
But ten times closer to my emotions. Pause
I’m very quick to cry….. lowers head Pause.
Slowly raises head ……but mostly for happy reasons
One day passed seamlessly into another. Each day, another 40,000 steps. Another 20 miles of progress, a little wiser, a little calmer, a little stronger, a little lighter, a little more in awe of the magic of the world.
With strangers who became good friends. I've made some wonderful friendships, which I hope will last for ever.
Something about the Camino makes people share their deepest thoughts with complete strangers. We were just thinking out loud. All of us.
We didn’t need to look at each other, because we were always looking ahead. We shared the weather, we shared the joy and we shared the pain. We shared the same path, and now we have shared the destination. This is what made us a Camino Family.
At no point on the way have I ever wished for it to stop, and I genuinely wish I could just keep going.
I don’t know exactly what my path is yet. I’m just walking on it. Moving forward. Others may choose to walk with me, but no one can walk it for me. I know now that it is my road, and mine alone.
Absolutely. It was a horror and the hardest day for me and I didn't expect it.The walk to Orrison was much steeper than I had imagined.
I planned what I wore. I walk a lot anyway, so I knew what was comfortable. I was particular about a light pack, so weighed everything to pick the lightest options.OP here. I’m surprised at how many responded with comments to the effect that they arrived on the Camino with no expectations or pre-planning. And, further, that this is preferable and more liberating.
Really? You didn‘t have any expectations regarding climate, terrain, distance, language, history, geography, food, or culture? You didn’t pre-plan clothing, equipment, or footwear?
Anyway, all responses are appreciated.
While this post contains some useful information there is no correlation between walking without prior reservations and damaged feet or abusing over the counter pain medication.Forewarned is forearmed.
You can go out there with no real planning and expect to walk 600 miles and for it to be easily do-able. It's your journey after all. But your chances of success are much less and mainly depend on how mentally strong you are and how much ibuprofen/co-codamol you are happy to abuse when you destroy your feet. When I first walked I was shocked at how much people were using, especially on the last 100km. People were dropping 3-4 max strength caps a day because their feet were covered in blisters and generally not in a good way, just to remove (as someone said to me) 50% of the pain they were experiencing. Taking painkillers to cover the fact your feet are in a bad way isn't a good thing.
There have been a number of threads over the years from pilgrims that walked without any preparation and within 200 miles had wrecked their feet and bodies and had to end their journey.
If you do decide to do it blind, at least make sure to instill a decent foot care regimen into your daily routine. Get your feet out of your shoes/boots, wash them and moisturise them (with proper foot cream) at least every night and ideally a couple of times per day. Wear proper walking socks with cushioning and use decent inner soles on your shoes/boots (gel or decent cushioning foam type ideally). Oh and break your shoes/boots in prior to starting. If you do that and manage to avoid blisters, you at least have some hope of making it.
August into September for my CF, May for my CP and April for the CI. The flies were only an issue for parts of the CF.I expected them, but never encountered them.
What time of year were your Caminos?
Mine are generally April/May/June.
On my CF in 2018, I can report bites from mosquitoes, bed bugs and flies.I'm a magnet for mosquitoes. Are they active on CF?
I think I have a good idea of what to expect.
But how about you non-first timers? What was it on the CF that was unexpected for you? What surprises were there that were not mentioned in the various media?
I am not at all surprised you became addicted.I was surprised at how addicted I would become...
Before my first Camino everything about it was outside of my comfort zone - partway through my 2nd Camino I realized that it IS my comfort zone.I didn’t expect to feel so at home on Camino, how can you feel so at home on a journey?
In 2007 - Knew I had to get to St Jean and climb the Pyrenees. Read one blog and met one person who had just returned from Spain.OP here. I’m surprised at how many responded with comments to the effect that they arrived on the Camino with no expectations or pre-planning. And, further, that this is preferable and more liberating.
Really? You didn‘t have any expectations regarding climate, terrain, distance, language, history, geography, food, or culture? You didn’t pre-plan clothing, equipment, or footwear?
Anyway, all responses are appreciated.
Ah, if only it were confined to the patio area of albergues @AnneMarie1! I'm afraid they are going to be fairly ubiquitious on your next Camino. Just like in the States, you're just as likely to see a table full of people each on their own smart device rather than sharing each others' company. It is sad, but fortunately, you needn't partake! There will be plenty of pilgrims for you to bond with.I've seen pictures of people sitting outside in a patio area of an albergue, all on their phones and not interacting. They leave me aghast. So sad.
I would love to see your playThis might be too long, but these are the words I wrote when I finished my first Camino in 2017 (I've now walked 8!). It's become the final scene of a play I have written, "Stepping on My Shadow" which is going to be performed in England in May. I think that it answers your question, and I sincerely hope that you have the same experience;
(Takes boots off) Farewell, my faithful footwear friends. You’ve served me well. But now it’s time to say goodbye.
You’ve supported me for one million steps, over mountain ranges and ancient bridges. Across arid plains, through towns, cities, fields and vineyards. On my first day on the Camino, I raised my right foot and stepped on my shadow. And then my left repeated the action and made the same connection with the earth. I did that 40,000 times that day, and then the next day. And the day after that, and again the day after that.
I started this with fear of failure. But now I know I needn't have. I had high expectations, all of which have been greatly exceeded.
I'm ten times physically stronger, more resilient and more determined than I ever thought I could be.
But ten times closer to my emotions. Pause
I’m very quick to cry….. lowers head Pause.
Slowly raises head ……but mostly for happy reasons
One day passed seamlessly into another. Each day, another 40,000 steps. Another 20 miles of progress, a little wiser, a little calmer, a little stronger, a little lighter, a little more in awe of the magic of the world.
With strangers who became good friends. I've made some wonderful friendships, which I hope will last for ever.
Something about the Camino makes people share their deepest thoughts with complete strangers. We were just thinking out loud. All of us.
We didn’t need to look at each other, because we were always looking ahead. We shared the weather, we shared the joy and we shared the pain. We shared the same path, and now we have shared the destination. This is what made us a Camino Family.
At no point on the way have I ever wished for it to stop, and I genuinely wish I could just keep going.
I don’t know exactly what my path is yet. I’m just walking on it. Moving forward. Others may choose to walk with me, but no one can walk it for me. I know now that it is my road, and mine alone.
So, for me, and my new friends my first Camino is over. View attachment 140734I'd start it all again tomorrow, if I could.
Buen Camino!
Go as prepared as you can. Make sure you have worn in your boots or footgear. Walk as much as you can. You really get walk fit on the way over the first 2 weeks but help yourself. Have something else (footwear) to put on at the end of the day that might be a size larger than you usually wear. Don't carry too much. We really don't need it. make sure you have a head light or a cap with lights ( I was given one and took it as a joke and now wouldn't walk with out it) You need far less food than you think. Every stop and many non stops have water for your water bottle 750ml is enough. The people, the stories, the friends who are here and also those who walked and have passed are immortal from you remembering them. Enjoy every minute and know you may have a minute that you think 'What the crap am I doing' Its OK we did as well. Take a break, know its OK have a sip of water and keep going. Most times I wish I could keep going and not return. Then when I get home I am astounded at the stuff we keep and don't need. This may not be your reaction but it was mine and those I have walked with. I warn you now, ways are addictive. Buen camino & Bon Courage. Hope to see you on a way one dayI’ll be starting my first Camino in just over a month. Like many of you, I’ve read the guidebooks, travel literature, perused this site quite thoroughly, followed blogs, have watched vlogs and YouTube Camino videos. I think I have a good idea of what to expect.
But how about you non-first timers? What was it on the CF that was unexpected for you? What surprises were there that were not mentioned in the various media?
Positive or negative - anything’s ok.
I’ll be starting my first Camino in just over a month. Like many of you, I’ve read the guidebooks, travel literature, perused this site quite thoroughly, followed blogs, have watched vlogs and YouTube Camino videos. I think I have a good idea of what to expect.
But how about you non-first timers? What was it on the CF that was unexpected for you? What surprises were there that were not mentioned in the various media?
Positive or negative - anything’s ok.
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