New Official River Route from Requejo to Padornelo

Elle Bieling · Mar 18, 2024

Hello, I am researching the Sanabrés and have discovered that since the AVE construction is complete, this section from Requejo to Padornelo has a new route available along the Requejo River. Our last time here we were forced to walk on the N-525 national highway this entire section and even through the tunnel at the top of the pass, the Alto de Padernelo. This tunnel route was not desirable, but not all that horrible in our experience. There still exists an alternate and much longer route from the N-525 that does avoid the pass and tunnel as well now.

However, I am seeking information on the much shorter Requejo river route that avoids the N-525 altogether in this section. It appears that it has opened only within the last several months, if not weeks. Does anyone have any experience or information on this new river route?

All I could find after a Google search is from Gronze, and I have included a screen shot of its information, translated. As you can read, it is not recommended in the rain and is poorly signposted, but they describe it as the "official" path:

duncanwhyte · Mar 18, 2024

The problem now is melting snow. Making some of the stream crossings tricky again. All along the n525 there was ample water flow from higher up.

Elle Bieling · Mar 18, 2024

duncanwhyte said:
The problem now is melting snow. Making some of the stream crossings tricky again. All along the n525 there was ample water flow from higher up.

Did you walk this river route?

duncanwhyte · Mar 18, 2024

No we kept to the road. But saw some of it in the final stage.

wisepilgrim · Mar 19, 2024

I will be in that area this month to investigate, and will let you know.

Luka · Mar 19, 2024

I walked that stage in August 2023. This is what I wrote on FindPenguins:

This stage has had a lot of changes. I'll describe here what I did (also have a look at the photos).

Almost all tracks on Wikiloc are slightly different. I followed the mojones and official signs, which keep you away from the N-525 almost until Padornelo.

Ojo: when walking out of Requejo, past the Botas Peregrinas and at the corner of the cemetery, the deviation sign is still there. I ignored it and followed a nice path through an oak forest. It ends up at the former AVE construction site.

The downside is the climb on a cement construction road. I walked there still early in the morning, but it must be really hot in the middle of the day.

The official path leads you underneath the N525 and A52 and makes a little loop around the valley. Longer, but IMHO nicer than walking along the N525. The last part until Cruz de Peregrino is on a cement path.

I had a quick stop at the little bar in Padornelo, a peculiar place which also seems to be the day care for the local 'loco'.

After a couple of boring kms along the N525 the Camino follows a very nice path through a forest and the village of Aciberos. It sometimes follows a stream which means walking on pebbles and I don't know how high the water level gets in other seasons.

But maybe not accurate anymore as you are talking about changes in the past couple of weeks?

Elle Bieling · Mar 19, 2024

Luka said:
It ends up at the former AVE construction site.

The downside is the climb on a cement construction road. I walked there still early in the morning, but it must be really hot in the middle of the day.

The official path leads you underneath the N525 and A52 and makes a little loop around the valley. Longer, but IMHO nicer than walking along the N525. The last part until Cruz de Peregrino is on a cement path.

Yes, this section is different than what I am asking about. This is not the route that takes a trail after the AVE construction site. But Thank you!

geraldkelly · Mar 19, 2024

I've walked this particular part 5 time and I think I walked a different way each time!

The first time in 2012 it was May and it was raining cats and dogs. I remember arriving at the AVE works and getting some surprised looks from the men working there. That time I took a left over the bridge at the ruined building (alternative route) and then I followed the rived uphill to the pass. The river was flooded and if you'd taken the right (historic route) option at the ruined building there's no way you'd have been able to get across it.

The second time in 2016 I was with a Scottish lad from Glasgow. We crossed the bridge again but we ended up following a completely different route which zig-zagged up to the pass. There was a bit of snow that day but not much. It was windy and bloody freezing up there and we didn't hang around.

Third time, 2019, Ave works were in full swing and we all got diverted up the hill to the track which runs near the main road. It was a bit dull but an easy walk.

Fourth time, 2022, first time post Ave, however at the ruined building the bridge to the left was blocked with a fence that didn't look climbable. So I took the historic route. It was August and it hadn't rained in months so getting across the river was easy. I nearly got eaten alive by files in the woods. If I was going there in summer again I'd get one of those face nets to keep them away.

Fifth time, 2023, this time it was weird because the Camino had been fenced off before we got to the ruined building and waymarkings sent us up an unpaved road to the track beside the main road. I went up the hill, I wanted a GPS track of it because it seemed to be the new "official Camino". Another pilgrim got over the fence and walked one of the routes I had walked in years gone by. He said it was absolutely fine.

So, I think the moral of this story is the more often you want this particular stretch the more confused you get. I'm pretty certain there's a few other ways you could go too, I just haven't found them yet. It's like a thick mist descends and you enter a twilight zone shortly after leaving Requejo.

The photo attached is the ruined building with the sign in 2022.

Blister Bill · Mar 19, 2024

Hi Elle, walked it on 12 May 22 and captured the track on map my run. Just followed the arrows and it was a lovely walk beside the river. The climb up the hill followed a track that was flowing like a river in large parts and annoying small flies and was a good puff but fantastic views at the top. Picture may help but can forward it in minute detail if required.

Elle Bieling · Mar 19, 2024

geraldkelly said:
I took a left over the bridge at the ruined building (alternative route) and then I followed the rived uphill to the pass. The river was flooded and if you'd taken the right (historic route) option at the ruined building there's no way you'd have been able to get across it.

Thank-you for all this! I'm clueless where the "ruined building" is, but by your descriptions, I'm assuming it is at the end of the AVE works area/bridges/tunnels. And there are two choices after this building, one historic and one alternative? Are there trails for both, one on either side of the river??

geraldkelly said:
It's like a thick mist descends and you enter a twilight zone shortly after leaving Requejo.

Yikes - I don't know whether to add a laughing face icon or a look of surprise/horror!

Elle Bieling · Mar 19, 2024

Blister Bill said:
Picture may help but can forward it in minute detail if required.

Thank you. This does not appear to be exactly like what I am seeing on the Gronze map. If you would be willing to share your GPS and/or map in greater detail, that would be great!

geraldkelly · Mar 19, 2024

Elle Bieling said:
Thank-you for all this! I'm clueless where the "ruined building" is, but by your descriptions, I'm assuming it is at the end of the AVE works area/bridges/tunnels. And there are two choices after this building, one historic and one alternative? Are there trails for both, one on either side of the river??

The Historic route was blocked off last time I was there and all the waymarkings were directing us up one of the two roads towards the main road.

It's possible this has changed recently and that they've reopened the historic route. Looking at the Gronze map you can see where the Camino crosses the bridge near a building and then continues in a zigzag up the hill. This looks like the route I walked years ago. It's also possible Gronze is just showing the old route and has never updated it.

I will ask in my Facebook group and see if anyone is in that area and can check it out.

Elle Bieling · Mar 19, 2024

geraldkelly said:
I will ask in my Facebook group and see if anyone is in that area and can check it out.

Muchas gracias!!

geraldkelly · Mar 19, 2024

I just had a look at the Gronze route from Seville. In some place they have the recent changes. In others they don't have them at all. Impossible to know what to make of this. This show the importance of walking the Camino regularly. It's the only way to be sure about the route.

Elle Bieling · Mar 19, 2024

geraldkelly said:
I just had a look at the Gronze route from Seville. In some place they have the recent changes. In others they don't have them at all. Impossible to know what to make of this. This show the importance of walking the Camino regularly. It's the only way to be sure about the route.

Indeed, I appreciate your help, because this section, according to all the accounts, keeps morphing as the AVE construction morphed. I hope this trail system after the ruined building is official, because IMHO is beats the N-525 and is shorter than its parallel path that still keeps the roadways in solid view.

Rita Flower · Mar 20, 2024

I walked in 2022 and loved this stage. I walked along the river initially - which was a bit soggy but lovely - then a bit of road and then off to the right along the ‘scenic route’ which was really beautiful- a highlight of the Sanabres.

Camino Chrissy · Mar 20, 2024

My goodness! I'll have to take some notes on this section as I'll be walking it in early May, or take screenshots of this thread
Along with Elle, I appreciate all of the comments from everyone.

Rita Flower · Mar 21, 2024

Camino Chrissy said:
My goodness! I'll have to take some notes on this section as I'll be walking it in early May, or take screenshots of this thread
Along with Elle, I appreciate all of the comments from everyone.

The route along the river would be impossible if it was raining a lot so be careful in May. And the route along the river seem to have two sections. When I got to the second part where I could get off the road, a man with cows was yelling in my direction, so I decided this was obviously a clue not to go that way. But then later the turn off to the right went uphill so it was quite dry. It did go through a meadow section, which might also get soggy if there has been a lot of rain.
I had met a man who had five operations in five years. He said he was going to walk the road all of that section. I realised that he had made the best decision for himself, and I was very grateful that I had a strong enough body to follow the off-road route.
Photos.
Little rickety white footbridge along the initial river route - there were two and these.
Cow in the meadow along the right hand, turn off route

Giorgio99 · Mar 23, 2024

Elle Bieling said:
Hello, I am researching the Sanabrés and have discovered that since the AVE construction is complete, this section from Requejo to Padornelo has a new route available along the Requejo River. Our last time here we were forced to walk on the N-525 national highway this entire section and even through the tunnel at the top of the pass, the Alto de Padernelo. This tunnel route was not desirable, but not all that horrible in our experience. There still exists an alternate and much longer route from the N-525 that does avoid the pass and tunnel as well now.

However, I am seeking information on the much shorter Requejo river route that avoids the N-525 altogether in this section. It appears that it has opened only within the last several months, if not weeks. Does anyone have any experience or information on this new river route?

All I could find after a Google search is from Gronze, and I have included a screen shot of its information, translated. As you can read, it is not recommended in the rain and is poorly signposted, but they describe it as the "official" path:

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Hi . I did this section yesterday. I was using the Cicerone book and OS map. Both took me to the river which was impassable leading to a detour which managed to miss out the cross at the summit!

Elle Bieling · Mar 24, 2024

Giorgio99 said:
Hi . I did this section yesterday. I was using the Cicerone book and OS map. Both took me to the river which was impassable leading to a detour which managed to miss out the cross at the summit!

Oh, I am sorry. I guess you went the highway then?

Giorgio99 · Mar 24, 2024

Elle Bieling said:
Oh, I am sorry. I guess you went the highway then?

Yes. Lots of deer tracks but no deer. Currently in Campobecerros with coffee

geraldkelly · Mar 26, 2024

wisepilgrim said:
I will be in that area this month to investigate, and will let you know.

Be careful, parts of this route aren't accessible by car. You might end up having to walk a bit.

wisepilgrim · Mar 26, 2024

geraldkelly said:
Be careful, parts of this route aren't accessible by car. You might end up having to walk a bit.

No worries, I had not planned to drive it. My legs need a good stretch.

geraldkelly · Mar 26, 2024

wisepilgrim said:
No worries, I had not planned to drive it. My legs need a good stretch.

I'm sure they do. Are you planning to walk the rest of the Via while you're at it?

wisepilgrim · Mar 27, 2024

geraldkelly said:
I'm sure they do. Are you planning to walk the rest of the Via while you're at it?

I am, but in short stints on account of more important family obligations. In general it is going to be a full year of caminos, much more than ordinary. If there is anything you want eyeballs on let me know, I’m happy to report back.

JillGat · Apr 14, 2024

I am walking from Requejo tomorrow. It has been very warm and dry the last few days. All of the locsls are telling me to avoid the river route as it is flooded and impassible.

Camino Chrissy · Apr 14, 2024

JillGat said:
I am walking from Requejo tomorrow. It has been very warm and dry the last few days. All of the locsls are telling me to avoid the river route as it is flooded and impassible.

Jill, I hope you report tomorrow on the alternate path you take to Lubian due to the flooding along the river. I will make sure I ask to find out which way is best when I walk that stage in two weeks.

JillGat · Apr 21, 2024

Elle Bieling said:
Hello, I am researching the Sanabrés and have discovered that since the AVE construction is complete, this section from Requejo to Padornelo has a new route available along the Requejo River. Our last time here we were forced to walk on the N-525 national highway this entire section and even through the tunnel at the top of the pass, the Alto de Padernelo. This tunnel route was not desirable, but not all that horrible in our experience. There still exists an alternate and much longer route from the N-525 that does avoid the pass and tunnel as well now.

However, I am seeking information on the much shorter Requejo river route that avoids the N-525 altogether in this section. It appears that it has opened only within the last several months, if not weeks. Does anyone have any experience or information on this new river route?

All I could find after a Google search is from Gronze, and I have included a screen shot of its information, translated. As you can read, it is not recommended in the rain and is poorly signposted, but they describe it as the "official" path:

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JillGat · Apr 21, 2024

Camino Chrissy said:
Jill, I hope you report tomorrow on the alternate path you take to Lubian due to the flooding along the river. I will make sure I ask to find out which way is best when I walk that stage in two weeks.

We walked along the highway to Padornelo because people in Requejo told us the river route was not passable.
However I talked to a guy the next day who went that way and said it was fine. There has been no rain for at least the last two weeks. After Padornelo, we took WisePilgrim's advised route to the left instead of the road to the right through Acebiros. I described this elsewhere.

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