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A Danish poet (Piet Hein), once said, over a newly filled grave:In general, something that today reminded me of is that the Camino is much more enjoyable when you take it slowly and relaxed and focus less on speed and hurrying somewhere.
Every route I walked and some that I haven't yet walked. They come in different formats. I used to write whole text (like the Viejo guide), print all the files and have them bound in a book (my 2012 guide weighted half a kilo!). but I don't have so much time anymore and now mostly do the itinerary spreadsheet-like files (like this year's Gebenennsis et co.). Every route is usually also accompanied by an accommodation list. You can find some of all types in my resources.That is extraordinary. It makes my sketchy hand written notes look like a pre-school project.
Have you done other routes?
Have you done other routes?
Then I went to see the nice, Romanesque church.
Temps have been surprisingly warm. There was quite a cold snap in October. Those who followed my Hospitalero thread may recall an excursion with friends to a nearby pueblo canvelled due to snow at our destination. That made me second guess what I had brought for cold weather. "If it is this cold now," I thought, "what will it be like a month later further north?" So instead of sending my newly acquired University of Salamanca hoodie ahead to Santiago, I took it with me as an extra layer option.David, I figured this out for myself a long time ago and diligently stick with it.
I'm loving your pictures, including all of that wonderful blue sky you are having. Are the temps coinciding nicely with it?
Sometimes I have withdrawals and it feels soo good when someone asks about my caminos. *insert angely smily*I know @caminka does not like to toot her own horn, so I’ll do it for her. She has a large number of Resources, all of which involve very detailed info of all sorts. Check out the list.
Oops, I see that she did mention her other caminos, but I’ll leave this post up because the link will take you to a list of all of the Resources she has posted.
There is absolutely no need to blush, @caminka! This is an absolutely marvellous resource that you've put together, and it will be a great help for future pilgrims on the Torres. Over the years I've provided quite a lot of practical information on two of my favourite caminos, the Camino de Invierno and the Caminho da Geira e dos Arrieiros, but compared to you I'm a complete novice.Research is an integral part of all my caminos and so many from this forum share their experiences or help in other ways. I just like to add to that in ways I can.
(we really need a blushing emoji, it took me a couple of hours to recover enough to post a coherent response : ) )
Sometimes, we can know something well and still lose track of it. Then we need a refresher course.David, I figured this out for myself a long time ago and diligently stick with it.
I'm loving your pictures,
Paulo Almeida has published that the largest image of the six found on the main facade, the one with a "zurrón"(I’m not sure of the correct term in English: ¿pilgrim's bag/satchel?) is the oldest sculptural representation of Saint James known in Portugal. This is the central figure of the three on the right.Then I went to see the nice, Romanesque church. I could see the facade, but it was locked up tight.
The middle one here?Paulo Almeida has published that the largest image of the six found on the main facade, the one with a "zurrón"(I’m not sure of the correct term in English: ¿pilgrim's bag/satchel?) is the oldest sculptural representation of Saint James known in Portugal. This is the central figure of the three on the right.
It can be distinguished in your photograph.
I think I first got a restaurant recommendation from the pharmacist in Bandeira on the Sanabrés. Since then, I have done that many times over and have never been disappointed. I have occasionally wondered why it would be that pharmacists would regularly have good restaurant recommendations— I don’t have a theory, but I have rock solid results! And I hope his pharmaceutical recommendations were as spot on as his restaurant suggestion!I got him to recommend a local restaurant, a basement place as it turned out and went there for lunch: frango asado, rice, fries, and a slice of apple tart for dessert.
You are coming up to the heavily asphalted parts of the Torres in the next few days. Hopefully your toe is up for it!There was a lot more pavement and cobblestones setts on the route today. The use of the setts has been expanding from just in the villages to also around the neighboring farms. Still not as prevalent as I remember from some parts of the Portugues, but I am seeing more of it.
Thank you. Geira is one of the next on my list (the other is Olvidado) so I will be combing through your notes and comment on the forum.There is absolutely no need to blush, @caminka! This is an absolutely marvellous resource that you've put together, and it will be a great help for future pilgrims on the Torres. Over the years I've provided quite a lot of practical information on two of my favourite caminos, the Camino de Invierno and the Caminho da Geira e dos Arrieiros, but compared to you I'm a complete novice.
I reckon that Ivar should award you a prize for sharing all this invaluable information!
Thank you so much! Y Buen Camino!
Continuing on Geira is the plan.Thank you. Geira is one of the next on my list (the other is Olvidado) so I will be combing through your notes and comment on the forum.
David, are you continuing on the Geira? I am a bit bogged down with stuff for the next two weeks, but I could try and squeeze it in and see how far I can come before you catch up?
I accept that is a possibility. Certainly if it spreads or gets worse, I will look to see someone. But if it doesn't, and is still the same when my Camino is done, I think I am probably better off taking it to my own doctor, with whom I can communicate more easily.Hi David
I'm wondering about your foot and think you should see a Doctor, even though you talk to your sister. I walked for many days with One swollen foot (no injury) and found yes as I walked the pain eased and I accepted it. In the Meseta a volunteer Red Cross ambulance were helping pilgrims and I thought I would ask. They stuck a BIG needle in to the sole and drew out lots of Matter! turns out I had a blood infection and it would not have gone away, Many times we are told that taking pain medications can mask a true state of affairs. I do hope your foot heals and admire your fortitude but I think with the stomach issues now you need it sorted. Its so hard to stop once you are walking I know. (Camino Torres sounds great as did Salamanca volunteering).
I have seen a few people in the fields, picking grapes and olives, but not many.The Douro Valley is one of my favorite places. I have been there many times as a tourist in a car, but walking through it (even though it was a LOT of asphalt) was something else. It’s beautiful in any season.
That little loop through the canyon (the picture where @chinacat wants to live) was so unbelievable - this little enclave with incredibly difficult access just a few kms from busy roads and tons of people.
Harvest is done, but I wonder if you have seen people in the fields? I was surprised to see that all the picking was done by hand, and most of the people I saw working were Portuguese. I think @amsimoes told me that all Douro grapes are required to be picked by hand, but my memory is fuzzy.
@jungleboy, I am not on Instagram, but was allowed to view quite a few of your pictures before I was shut out.That was one of my favourite days on any camino. Here's a photo selection from the stage:
Thank you Chrissy, you are always so kind. I don't want to hijack David's thread, so I will send you a DM with an update on the desk job when I get a chance. For now, on with the Torres!@jungleboy, I am not on Instagram, but was allowed to view quite a few of your pictures before I was shut out.
You are a marvelous photographer and I always enjoy the content you share, as well.
P.S. I hope your temporary desk job is going well and that your employer realizes what a "find" he has in you.
Great to see that your aches and gripes seem to have departed. Wonderful account and memories of my recent wander. The scenery is looking more winters.Saturday 16 November 2024, Amarante - Pombeiro.
I stopped here for a lovely pastry and coffee also. Quite a thriving little town. I was in the Pastelaria right by the big blue LIXA sign.As I've done the past few days, I made a couple of stops for refreshments, a second breakfast in Lixa at about 10 of a chocolate croissant, a pastel de nata, and some fresh-squeezed orange juice (they had one of those machines). Then a stop for a more substantial lunch just after noon in Felgueiras.
This was one of my favourite stays on the Portuguese section of the Torres. I had a lovely chat with the ‘hospitalero’ and enjoyed my afternoon in the little bar up the road. It seems like you followed my lead.I still hadn't received a reply to my WhatsApp letting the hospitalero in Pombeiro know I was coming, but I decided to just trust and walked on. It was just over an hour more to Pombeiro, which is the village overlooking the monastery. When I got to more or less where the albergue is, I asked around. Soon enough, someone made a call and shortly afterwards told me that if I was willing to wait a bit, someone would let me in.
So I sat around for about an hour reading my library e-loan, which I've been neglecting, when the hospitalero came to let me in and give me the tour. The albergue is located in the former schoolhouse (as many have been). It sleeps 10 (one tonight), no bunks. There is a shower, some toilets, a washing place, and microwave, a coffee maker, hot water, and blankets. It is a free albergue (and I am aware that donativo is not free).
I was very lucky to be the only one in the Monastery and Bruno kindly played for my. Even without this experience, it’s well worth a tour isn’t it? And right out in the middle of nowhere.After getting settled in a bit I headed down to the valley to see the monastery. Clearly something was going on, as there was a big crowd of children and their parents. I headed in and joined a tour that was just beginning and being given to a family, from New Jersey as it turns out, but they have been living in Portugal for several years. The tour was in Portuguese, but key parts were passed on in summary translation, either by the guide or by the family. The guide was being engaging, asking questions and pointing unusual things out. (As an example, in the library - currently devoid of books - there is a letter over each of the book cases, in alphabetical order, but a few letters like J and V are missing. The guide asked if anyone could guess why.) Unfortunately, we missed a highlight of the tour, the playing of the organ by the guide, because a mass was starting just as we got to that part of the tour.
I am now in a nearby cafe/bar where there is wifi and I'm getting a soup and sandwich for supper. Then it will probably be back to the albergue for shower, shave, and sleep.
I wonder if this is a typical situation for municipal albergues in Portugal. When I was in Bragança last year as a tourist, I spoke with the woman in the tourist office who ran the albergue. I had been given a tour inside by some Spanish pilgrims who were staying there and they had told me it was free. I asked the woman in the office about it and she explained that because of government regulations, it would be extremely cumbersome to follow the bureaucratic rules about municipalities receiving money from private citizens. I didn’t quite get it, but maybe that’s what’s going on.It is a free albergue (and I am aware that donativo is not free).
symmetry being very important which is why there is a fake organ facing the real one; the real organ, the real organ behind the scenes.
I obviously was tired when reading David's post about the fake organ. I had noticed the keyboards looked very small and I couldn't exactly figure out where the organ bench was as something didn't look right, but thought, "who was I to question" it.I learned that same tidbit from him, which also explains why the two two keys on the left of your picture of the organ keyboard say “je suit muet” (I am mute in French) and “Io non parlo” (I don’t speak in Italian) - they were just fake keys to preserve the symmetry.
The photos above, with the small keyboard are of the real organ. You can see the organ bench in the first photo. In the subsequent photo, where he had pulled off the panels to reveal the inner workings of the organ, he put the panels he had taken down onto the bench, so they obscure it. I didn't think to take a picture of the fake organ. I don't think it had a keyboard.I obviously was tired when reading David's post about the fake organ. I had noticed the keyboards looked very small and I couldn't exactly figure out where the organ bench was as something didn't look right, but thought, "who was I to question" it.
What a duffus I am!
Oh my! Now I feel like a "double duffus"!The photos above, with the small keyboard are of the real organ. You can see the organ bench in the first photo. In the subsequent photo, where he had pulled off the panels to reveal the inner workings of the organ, he put the panels he had taken down onto the bench, so they obscure it. I didn't think to take a picture of the fake organ. I don't think it had a keyboard.
I very much appreciate the tidbit and translation of the organ's French and Italian labels. The technical term for those is 'stop' not key. The stops on an organ open and shut the pressurized air flow to a set of pipes known as a rank. When a key is depressed the air then flows into a pipe (or as many pipes as the number of stops pulled out). This is effected manually directly via a rod that twists and bends its way between the key and pipe. You see the rods in the photo revealing the "inner workings" of the organ. This is how a tracker organ works. Brilliant technology. Organs like this were around for centuries before the discovery of electricity. Pre electricity era all organs were trackers and the pipes sat directly above the keyboard. I had the pleasure of playing several organs like this on the Camino Frances.I wonder if this is a typical situation for municipal albergues in Portugal. When I was in Bragança last year as a tourist, I spoke with the woman in the tourist office who ran the albergue. I had been given a tour inside by some Spanish pilgrims who were staying there and they had told me it was free. I asked the woman in the office about it and she explained that because of government regulations, it would be extremely cumbersome to follow the bureaucratic rules about municipalities receiving money from private citizens. I didn’t quite get it, but maybe that’s what’s going on.
I learned that same tidbit from him, which also explains why the two two keys on the left of your picture of the organ keyboard say “je suit muet” (I am mute in French) and “Io non parlo” (I don’t speak in Italian) - they were just fake keys to preserve the symmetry.
I am assuming that no mention of your feet means they are fine. Fingers crossed that is so!
There was so much done just for symmetry. Besides the two organs and two pulpits, he also pointed out, as an example, the widows going nowhere on one side of the sacristy, just there to provide symmetry with the windows that let in the light.I learned that same tidbit from him, which also explains why the two two keys on the left of your picture of the organ keyboard say “je suit muet” (I am mute in French) and “Io non parlo” (I don’t speak in Italian) - they were just fake keys to preserve the symmetry.
I am assuming that no mention of your feet means they are fine. Fingers crossed that is so!
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