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St Jean Pied de Port to Pamplona is a very nice section.I want to do a part of the camino with my gf next year. Which would be the most scenic section to do with plenty of hostels in between. I dont mind if it doesn't end in Santiago de Compostela and would be looking to do max 15 km a day.
(I've previously done a Porto to Santiago de Compostela and many on route recommended the France route but its obviously way too long)
I want to do a part of the camino with my gf next year. Which would be the most scenic section to do with plenty of hostels in between.
Sorry T, I love your posts but I can't agree with this one. It is very scenic, yes, (not that it looked like Vermont but it did remind me of it) but I think that the GF might be too anxious about lodging to make this the best recommendation. I suggest some stretch between Pamplona and Castrojeriz. There's good transportation out of Logrono and I keep hearing so many good things about Logrono's tapas bars that leaving to go home on the day after arriving there would be a good idea.St Jean Pied de Port to Pamplona is a very nice section.
At the risk of challenging your assumptions about the OP’s intentions, which you do not know, ALL pilgrims are free to walk in their own way and this is the beauty of pilgrimage—a spiritual journey. Pilgrimages may be long or short, and as most pilgrims heading toward Santiago are not doing it for “religious” reasons, rather spiritual, an arrival at an end destination is not necessary. All we know from the OP is the interest in a scenic section and nothing about the reasons for why they walk. It strikes me that the Spirit of the Camino has an open enough heart to even welcome them into albergues as they too are pilgrims.The Camino is a pilgrimage. If you don't intend to walk to Santiago, please stay at hostels and hotels, and leave the dedicated pilgrim-only accommodations for the pilgrims.
There's plenty of accommodation. The OP didn't say that they were adverse to advance bookings.Sorry T, I love your posts but I can't agree with this one. It is very scenic, yes, (not that it looked like Vermont but it did remind me of it) but I think that the GF might be too anxious about lodging to make this the best recommendation.
Just for clarification, and I think that it is actually relevant for the OP's question: There are "dedicated pilgrim-only accommodations for the pilgrims" on several Caminos and those who own them or manage them have made it clear in recent years that they do not wish to accommodate certain categories of Camino walkers who don't correspond to the profile of what they see as their target group. The criteria are not always clearly defined. Those who are fairly new to Camino walking ought to be made aware that among the "hostels" ("albergues") with dormitory beds there are those who are "pilgrims only" and there are those who are "not pilgrims only but oriented towards pilgrims".ALL pilgrims are free to walk in their own way
It should not be turned into an argument. The aim is awareness raising. There are these places for accommodation on the Caminos, especially on the Camino Francés. Be aware of them. Then make your own personal decision whether you think that you fit their profile or not.I think the only argument that people will win
I could not disagree with you more. I think it is quite obvious the intention of the op. He wants to take a hike for a few days and there is nothing wrong with that. I believe the definition of "pilgrimage" and "pilgrims" on this forum has reached a point of total absurdity. People have made up their own little and neat definitions of what the Camino de Santiago is. I think it is often a way for people to say, "oh look at me, see how inclusive, open, non judgemental and welcoming I am!" I always have to laugh when people accuse me or others of being judgemental for expressing an opinion that differs from their own. Then the judgements come flying from all those who are so inclusive, welcoming and warm. I do have to say when this happens I get great joy in agitating the situation even more because it is so ridiculous to begin with. I don't know whether to laugh or get sick when I hear people say , we all walk our own camino. The camino is not ours to walk. It is the camino that allows us to step foot on its many paths. The whole question of why one walks in relationship to the camino being a religious path has become mute. A spiritual reason is a "godly" reason. The verbiage may be different but the path to peace or to some form of enlightenment is parallel. The "Spirit of the Camino"? I am not sure what that is. Historically the spirit and experiences and treatment of pilgrims for hundreds of years (through my historical study) is far different than this term which has evolved over just a moment in time of the totality of the history of Camino de Santiago. It is another pleasant and saccharine term that makes us all feel good. It is like Little League in the United States where everyone gets a trophy.At the risk of challenging your assumptions about the OP’s intentions, which you do not know, ALL pilgrims are free to walk in their own way and this is the beauty of pilgrimage—a spiritual journey. Pilgrimages may be long or short, and as most pilgrims heading toward Santiago are not doing it for “religious” reasons, rather spiritual, an arrival at an end destination is not necessary. All we know from the OP is the interest in a scenic section and nothing about the reasons for why they walk. It strikes me that the Spirit of the Camino has an open enough heart to even welcome them into albergues as they too are pilgrims.
(dictated to myself but not read so there are probably lots of typos etcThe Camino is a pilgrimage. If you don't intend to walk to Santiago, please stay at hostels and hotels, and leave the dedicated pilgrim-only accommodations for the pilgrims.
If you're still there … If the Portugues is too long it sounds like you have limited time. Depending upon how many days you want to walk just about any section of the Frances beginning in Pamplona would work for your criteria. From there to Logrono is one option. You can also start at Leon (but take the alternate route at Trabajo del Camino as the rest of that day on the main route is abysmal), Astorga, or Ponferrada and end at Sarria. Any of these will provide options for getting in and out relatively easily by bus or train.I want to do a part of the camino with my gf next year. Which would be the most scenic section to do with plenty of hostels in between. I dont mind if it doesn't end in Santiago de Compostela and would be looking to do max 15 km a day.
(I've previously done a Porto to Santiago de Compostela and many on route recommended the France route but its obviously way too long)
Saint Jean to Burgos or Astorga to SdC. I’ve walked both of those segments several times and never tire of the experience.I want to do a part of the camino with my gf next year. Which would be the most scenic section to do with plenty of hostels in between. I dont mind if it doesn't end in Santiago de Compostela and would be looking to do max 15 km a day.
(I've previously done a Porto to Santiago de Compostela and many on route recommended the France route but its obviously way too long)
Does it have to be in Spain?I want to do a part of the camino with my gf next year. Which would be the most scenic section to do with plenty of hostels in between. I dont mind if it doesn't end in Santiago de Compostela and would be looking to do max 15 km a day.
(I've previously done a Porto to Santiago de Compostela and many on route recommended the France route but its obviously way too long)
Is the route you suggest dog friendly?Does it have to be in Spain?
If France is an option, the Via Podiensis has many amazingly beautiful sections (you can find it on Gronze as well), and if I remember correctly, you should mostly be able to do 15 km stretches (but please double check).
For example, you could start in Navarrenx and do about 65 km to St. Jean Pied de Port. I loved hiking towards the Pyrenees.
Head up, France, it is common to book the gîtes in advance (if only a day) and most offer a dinner and breakfast (demi-pension).
(The French also do not care whether you’re a „real“ pilgrim or not. There are plenty of section hikers there and no one minds either way.)
Mh, I don’t have any first-hand experience with dogs in the gîtes. I guess you‘d have to ask individually if they allow it.Is the route you suggest dog friendly?
All pilgrims can walk how they like. But people who are doing short scenic tours with no intention of going to the saint's tomb are not, by definition, on the pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela. The dedicated pilgrim albergue network is provided for pilgrims, not sight-seeing tourists -- no matter what name they call themselves. The pilgrimage is a thing. It is not whatever anyone wants it to be. People on scenic tours should stay in private hostels or hotels. Nada mas.At the risk of challenging your assumptions about the OP’s intentions, which you do not know, ALL pilgrims are free to walk in their own way and this is the beauty of pilgrimage—a spiritual journey. Pilgrimages may be long or short, and as most pilgrims heading toward Santiago are not doing it for “religious” reasons, rather spiritual, an arrival at an end destination is not necessary. All we know from the OP is the interest in a scenic section and nothing about the reasons for why they walk. It strikes me that the Spirit of the Camino has an open enough heart to even welcome them into albergues as they too are pilgrims.
Fortunately, the OP didn't mention staying in dedicated pilgrim albergues.All pilgrims can walk how they like. But people who are doing short scenic tours with no intention of going to the saint's tomb are not, by definition, on the pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela. The dedicated pilgrim albergue network is provided for pilgrims, not sight-seeing tourists -- no matter what name they call themselves. The pilgrimage is a thing. It is not whatever anyone wants it to be. People on scenic tours should stay in private hostels or hotels. Nada mas.
I want to do a part of the camino with my gf next year. Which would be the most scenic section to do with plenty of hostels in between
Ah, the flexibility of language: hostel; hostal; hotel; Albergue; Casa acogida; Donativo….Fortunately, the OP didn't mention staying in dedicated pilgrim albergues.
You have nailed it Tinca some contributors did not read the original post all the person was asking for was a scenic nice walk with his gf 15 kms a day not a big ask simple.Ah, the flexibility of language: hostel; hostal; hotel; Albergue; Casa acogida; Donativo….
It is a constant source of astonishment for
me how many people are incapable of distinguishing one from t’other.
The OP is just after a nice walk in the countryside and, obviously, the Camino Frances is “too long” even though they could just start in Sarria from whence it’s much shorter. It really doesn’t matter what their motivation or intention are. They just want a nice walk with readily available accommodation and presumably minimal interrogations. @MickMac ’s suggestion at #2 had it covered. Life should contain surprises
That is absolutely understandable and I know that people like this exist. I have met them. I also get that the sheer mass of people who come to Spain nowadays puts a strain on the infrastructure and that with huge numbers, the number of non-behaving folks increases.don't mean to be inhospitable, but we in the non-profit network are dealing with great waves of short-trip scenery or wine-tasting tourists this year, who think calling themselves "pilgrim" means everything is free and no rules apply to them. It is taxing.
and add Muxia which is wonderful.If you're not bothered about ending in Santiago, why not start in Santiago and walk to Finisterre - really pretty, and you get to arrive at an historical 'endpoint'. Think it's around the 70km mark . .
Second, my wife, with whom I gave walked many kms, says of the Camino — “It is an opportunity to experience how God would have us treat one another”, to which I would add it can be that, but it might take more than a week or two to find it.
Somewhat agreed. My wife and I just came back from TMB - regrettably had to cut it short of completing the full circle - and what we saw is unparalleled to anything on CF.If you're looking for a lovely, short and beautiful walk, I'd recommend looking at a different walk. European is dripping with gorgeous and beautiful walks. The Camino Frances is not one of them.
Rebekah don't quite get that by "calling themselves pilgrims" means everthing is free and no rules apply to them, did I miss something?don't mean to be inhospitable, but we in the non-profit network are dealing with great waves of short-trip scenery or wine-tasting tourists this year, who think calling themselves "pilgrim" means everything is free and no rules apply to them. It is taxing.
That's strange, I have no problem using bold or italics when posting from my phone, which is what I just did.. I know that typing in caps is equal to shouting. That said when i post something using my mobile I cannot do bold or italic fonts to punctuate a point, so i use caps. So don't take it personally - I was not yelling at you
OK I now know gf is girlfriend (and know what a wife is as I HAD one 30 years ago) but please where is this joyous TMB place and are you shouting? But I guess this post will also be deleted!Somewhat agreed. My wife and I just came back from TMB - regrettably had to cut it short of completing the full circle - and what we saw is unparalleled to anything on CF.
But then a hike in the woods it is not and (ahem!) no "albergues"
It's not in your keyboard, it's part of the forum software. Just highlight what you want to make bold or italics, then tap on the B or I.@trecile - I looked all over my keyboard and I cannot find those options. I can change the size of the text that's about it. At the same - I can (and I do use) type some symbols (the euro and GBP symbols come to mind for example) on my phone and I can't find them if I am on my laptop
Perhaps its only me
Tour de Mont Blanc - a famous trail in the Alps that circumference the Mont Blanc Massif and traverses through France, Italy and Switzerland.OK I now know gf is girlfriend (and know what a wife is as I HAD one 30 years ago) but please where is this joyous TMB place and are you shouting? But I guess this post will also be deleted!
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