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sillydoll said:The Anglican Churches recognise Roman Catholic Eucharists as valid celebrations of the Eucharist, and would be delighted to be invited to Communion. Unfortunately, the Roman Catholic Church does not permit it, except in very unusual circumstances.
I would advise to do what your conscience tells you, and not ask permission.
Because this question came up again a day or two ago, I thought it wise to revive this thread. I live on the camino, I am Anglican/Episcopalian, I am a believer who wanted to fully participate in the life of my Roman Catholic parish. I did not want to violate church rules or my own conscience, so I asked every church authority I could find what was the right thing to do. I was roundly informed by Anglican and Catholic authorities and even my local Catholic bishop: If there´s no Anglican priest to provide the Eucharistic service, I am free to receive at the Catholic service -- long as my beliefs about the bread and wine are in line with the Catholic teaching.
They are, and so I do.
If you are Episcopalian, Anglican, or even Lutheran, you can freely receive Communion along the Camino, if that is what you wish to do.
AMEN! Even though I converted just 8 years go I asked my parish priest the same question last night. The essential elements are: belief in transubstantiation, your "home church is not available to you, you say "Amen" as affirmation of the above.Because this question came up again a day or two ago, I thought it wise to revive this thread. I live on the camino, I am Anglican/Episcopalian, I am a believer who wanted to fully participate in the life of my Roman Catholic parish. I did not want to violate church rules or my own conscience, so I asked every church authority I could find what was the right thing to do. I was roundly informed by Anglican and Catholic authorities and even my local Catholic bishop: If there´s no Anglican priest to provide the Eucharistic service, I am free to receive at the Catholic service -- long as my beliefs about the bread and wine are in line with the Catholic teaching.
They are, and so I do.
If you are Episcopalian, Anglican, or even Lutheran, you can freely receive Communion along the Camino, if that is what you wish to do.
Not completely sure of your meaning here, regarding the phrase "in the guise of Christians".....I learned that a group of Austians with us had come with their Parish Priest (Catholic) in the guise of Christians ...."
Then again, learning from "our differences", might mean that we discover that one is actually right & one is wrong....We need to share the Eucharist first and around the table learn from each other the wonderful richness of our differences which in reality...
Most of the seven billion humans on Earth may not find anything in the concept of a reformation; they are xenophopic for myriad other reasons.countries that had a hard time during what we call the 'Reformation' period
When I have attended a Mass in NZ as a non-Catholic but committed Christian, I was told to cross my arms across my chest like an X and the priest or deacon would pray a blessing instead. On these few occasions, I've been officially blessed and avoided offending the clergy. Is this practice also common in Spain?
Wow, this thread is taking off! The reason the crossed arms is probably not known in Spain is that most people there are Catholic. What I find encouraging is that inter faith communion CAN occur in whatever form it take as long as both denominations agree. What's usually referred to as the "fine print" in a contract keeps you from doing something. In this case it appears to allow it!This practice, common in English-speaking countries, was almost unknown in Spain until quite recently. It is now understood by clergy at the cathedral in Santiago, and is becoming better-known elsewhere. You will still find priests who are unclear as to what you are up to.
Hi Colin, "in the guise of Christians" is to say that this group of Catholics did not come with T-shirts proclaimimg their affiliation with the Vatican - they simply cam as part of the island community for that week - as Christians with other Christians.Hello Freescot,
Not completely sure of your meaning here, regarding the phrase "in the guise of Christians".
Then again, learning from "our differences", might mean that we discover that one is actually right & one is wrong.
In "reality", that might just be a possibility, however much we'd prefer it otherwise.
Colin
In English?in the words of Christ himself..."Take this, ALL OF YOU...
Ah, that's a different thing now, I thought the original post might be construed to mean they weren't "real" Christians. (With or without the T-shirts - lol)...."in the guise of Christians" is to say that this group of Catholics did not come with T-shirts proclaimimg their affiliation with the Vatican - they simply cam as part of the island community for that week - as Christians with other Christians...
Yes, diversity is a wonderful thing, which should be celebrated, but I would venture to say that the acceptance of diversities, must not require the abandonment of understood truth, just for the sake of warm congeniality.Yes, you're right, "differences" is not the best term here. I really meant a celebration of diversity and let's just put aside who is right and wrong for a while and see what difference it makes..
Hi freescott
i am glad that you appreciate the handywork of one of our better N Irish exports St Columba and his work amongst you Scotts on Iona but as a Cunningham perhaps I should say nothing about that. It was a better export than the Titanic anyway the English sunk that one on us.
Back to theology surely in the act of communion we meet with our Lord, Him in us, we in Him, in so doing we meet with what has been and what will be we in effect meet with all creation and all eternity.
With all our legalistic man made rules and regulations we inhibit this marvel - filled event and perhaps, if I can quote properly the words of a Sufi divine "Beyond our ideas of right and wrong there is a field, I will meet you there" In that way the simple act of sharing a meal in an albergue or hostel in which people in a caring and sharing way with all their ideas, ideals and traditions set aside may be closer to that which Christ reflected in His teaching and life
It usually does!!Is this getting a bit too heavy?
Because this question came up again a day or two ago, I thought it wise to revive this thread. I live on the camino, I am Anglican/Episcopalian, I am a believer who wanted to fully participate in the life of my Roman Catholic parish. I did not want to violate church rules or my own conscience, so I asked every church authority I could find what was the right thing to do. I was roundly informed by Anglican and Catholic authorities and even my local Catholic bishop: If there´s no Anglican priest to provide the Eucharistic service, I am free to receive at the Catholic service -- long as my beliefs about the bread and wine are in line with the Catholic teaching.
They are, and so I do.
If you are Episcopalian, Anglican, or even Lutheran, you can freely receive Communion along the Camino, if that is what you wish to do.
AMEN!It may be helpful at this point to remember the simple and informative point which Rebekah made.
If you are not a Roman Catholic and there is no minister of your own denomination available it is permissible to receive communion at a Catholic Mass if you believe in what the Catholic Church teaches about communion.
Decide yourself whether this applies to you. If it does and you go to a Catholic Mass you don't need to ask for permission - just go to communion. Simple.
Buen camino!
John
Please note that I have moved a few posts about the topic A sense of the Holy to this thread: Have you had a sense of the Holy on your camino
Thank you,
Susanna/Mod.
I completely agree pilgrim b, the beauty and spiritual sense I got from the Camino was in the people I met along the way, those being kind and helpful to each other, true Christianity, even some of these were of other faiths. As you said Camino Angels.A sense of the Holy on Camino: Many times did I see, the beauty and uniqueness on my fellow pilgrim's faces, the miracle of their determination to continue in spite of their suffering. The Camino angels who supported them including the Priests and the many locals who blessed and served us all with no thought of our diversity. We were pilgrims on a sacred path all with our own reasons for our journey. Yet I often thought as I journeyed how beautiful the world is and how little I really know, and "this must be what the Kingdom of Heaven is like! Maybe this is why the Camino calls us back again and again.
It is hard not to feel a great deal of gratitude on the Camino. Following on the heels of that emotion is the sense of accomplishment. For many pilgrims it has been a while since they challenged themselves physically, and it is satisfying to know that it is still possible to rise to challenges. Introspection can add to these two dominant feelings, and maybe that is a sense of the holy. I see it as mostly an internal process, but I can see how others think it is being bestowed on them. Many times we do not give credit to ourselves when credit is due, as though that goal was the result of something other than the team's effort. Chacun a son gout.I completely agree pilgrim b, the beauty and spiritual sense I got from the Camino was in the people I met along the way
Alex,I hope that one day in the future, priests/clergymen from all religions will come together and talk, unite, and communicate a common faith to us peasants. Maybe we'll then get peace on Earth after 2000 years? (said with tongue in cheek after reading through this thread)
I see it as mostly an internal process, but I can see how others think it is being bestowed on them. Many times we do not give credit to ourselves when credit is due, as though that goal was the result of something other than the team's effort. Chacun a son gout.
Alex,
Actually what needs to happen is that the people from all religions come together and talk, unite, and communicate a common faith!
Am I missing an answer to this question?Although not wishing to be controversial I agree with this and perhaps we should simply ask ourselves, " what would the Master say...?"
I think that was the answer or was it 10Am I missing an answer to this question?
Am I missing an answer to this question?
You can find churches and masses along the caminos here:
https://maps.google.es/maps/ms?msid...ll=41.079351,-4.592285&spn=9.453676,14.128418
I missed this post earlier. I am a Catholic Lay Ecclesial minister (it's complicated), and if I catch up with you I would be delighted to say evening prayer with you.I am a retired Lutheran Pastor. I will be on the Camino Frances April and May. I always carry Holden Evening Prayer with me on long hikes. I would be happy to sing Holden Evening Prayer and/or share communion with anyone who wishes it in any albergue at which I stop along the way.
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