- Time of past OR future Camino
- 2012
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It happens almost every year to us. We usually leave at least one charger somewhere along the way or lose a sock or something else... I have left things in the fridge I planned to retrieve or soap/shampoo in the shower...It seems to me that I am seeing more and more posts lately from people who have “lost” various items, from the crucial like credencials to the peripheral such as hats. We have seen posts about poles, cameras, necklaces, power adapters, sunglasses, guidebooks, even clothing.
I wonder if it’s people so focused on the prize, their goal, that they have lost all situational awareness. They stop walking, they put things down, they start walking again. They never look back, they never check “Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet and Watch”. Though how anyone can fail to notice the absence of an umbrella in the rain or a walking pole unless it was just an ornament stretches even my vivid imagination.
Every third Peregrino will have abandoned something somewhere. I think I could probably start walking from Roncesvalles with an empty backpack and be fully equipped by Pamplona and by Burgos I could probably open a store but how or why is this occurring?? Is it a (please pardon the language) “head-space” thing? That people are so wrapped into the experience that they have lost any perception of the process.
When that nice Galilean said “take up thy bed and walk” I’m sure the implication was “and make sure you have the rest of your stuff with you when you go”…
I had lost( left) my walking shoes because a generally wear sandals, on the way to Najara and I asked the hospitality where to get another pair. She showed me into a room of left gear , there was a ton of everything , I found a nice pair of abandoned German walking shoe that were great and used them for years. If you need something ask at the albergue firstIt seems to me that I am seeing more and more posts lately from people who have “lost” various items, from the crucial like credencials to the peripheral such as hats. We have seen posts about poles, cameras, necklaces, power adapters, sunglasses, guidebooks, even clothing.
I wonder if it’s people so focused on the prize, their goal, that they have lost all situational awareness. They stop walking, they put things down, they start walking again. They never look back, they never check “Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet and Watch”. Though how anyone can fail to notice the absence of an umbrella in the rain or a walking pole unless it was just an ornament stretches even my vivid imagination.
Every third Peregrino will have abandoned something somewhere. I think I could probably start walking from Roncesvalles with an empty backpack and be fully equipped by Pamplona and by Burgos I could probably open a store but how or why is this occurring?? Is it a (please pardon the language) “head-space” thing? That people are so wrapped into the experience that they have lost any perception of the process.
When that nice Galilean said “take up thy bed and walk” I’m sure the implication was “and make sure you have the rest of your stuff with you when you go”…
Descending from Alto Perdon in 2012 I encountered a pair of boots, separated by about 200 metres, a pair of badly torn cargo pants on a fence a little further down and at the bottom a Burghaus rain jacket and a heap of other abandoned clothing. I spent the few k's into Uterga looking for a bin for most of it, and for a semi-naked barefoot pilgrim...
The nice Galilean had four friends along with him. Lesson? Walk with a buddy who can keep you on track, perhaps?It seems to me that I am seeing more and more posts lately from people who have “lost” various items, from the crucial like credencials to the peripheral such as hats. We have seen posts about poles, cameras, necklaces, power adapters, sunglasses, guidebooks, even clothing.
I wonder if it’s people so focused on the prize, their goal, that they have lost all situational awareness. They stop walking, they put things down, they start walking again. They never look back, they never check “Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet and Watch”. Though how anyone can fail to notice the absence of an umbrella in the rain or a walking pole unless it was just an ornament stretches even my vivid imagination.
Every third Peregrino will have abandoned something somewhere. I think I could probably start walking from Roncesvalles with an empty backpack and be fully equipped by Pamplona and by Burgos I could probably open a store but how or why is this occurring?? Is it a (please pardon the language) “head-space” thing? That people are so wrapped into the experience that they have lost any perception of the process.
When that nice Galilean said “take up thy bed and walk” I’m sure the implication was “and make sure you have the rest of your stuff with you when you go”…
In 2017 I left my poles behind. Realised as soon as the big door shut behind us, then had to wait for a pilgrim to come out so I could get back in.It seems to me that I am seeing more and more posts lately from people who have “lost” various items, from the crucial like credencials to the peripheral such as hats. We have seen posts about poles, cameras, necklaces, power adapters, sunglasses, guidebooks, even clothing.
I wonder if it’s people so focused on the prize, their goal, that they have lost all situational awareness. They stop walking, they put things down, they start walking again. They never look back, they never check “Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet and Watch”. Though how anyone can fail to notice the absence of an umbrella in the rain or a walking pole unless it was just an ornament stretches even my vivid imagination.
Every third Peregrino will have abandoned something somewhere. I think I could probably start walking from Roncesvalles with an empty backpack and be fully equipped by Pamplona and by Burgos I could probably open a store but how or why is this occurring?? Is it a (please pardon the language) “head-space” thing? That people are so wrapped into the experience that they have lost any perception of the process.
When that nice Galilean said “take up thy bed and walk” I’m sure the implication was “and make sure you have the rest of your stuff with you when you go”…
Don't forget towels.We have seen posts about poles, cameras, necklaces, power adapters, sunglasses, guidebooks, even clothing.
"Testicles"It seems to me that I am seeing more and more posts lately from people who have “lost” various items, from the crucial like credencials to the peripheral such as hats. We have seen posts about poles, cameras, necklaces, power adapters, sunglasses, guidebooks, even clothing.
I wonder if it’s people so focused on the prize, their goal, that they have lost all situational awareness. They stop walking, they put things down, they start walking again. They never look back, they never check “Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet and Watch”. Though how anyone can fail to notice the absence of an umbrella in the rain or a walking pole unless it was just an ornament stretches even my vivid imagination.
Every third Peregrino will have abandoned something somewhere. I think I could probably start walking from Roncesvalles with an empty backpack and be fully equipped by Pamplona and by Burgos I could probably open a store but how or why is this occurring?? Is it a (please pardon the language) “head-space” thing? That people are so wrapped into the experience that they have lost any perception of the process.
When that nice Galilean said “take up thy bed and walk” I’m sure the implication was “and make sure you have the rest of your stuff with you when you go”…
Some of us are more absent-minded than others. I really should have been a professor like my dad. I'm one of those people who always walk with poles and never carry them. I figure it is their job to carry me rather than the other way 'round. Notwithstanding that, I have left them behind after stopping at the bar and had to have someone call me back or returned myself bashfully after a while when I finally notice.Though how anyone can fail to notice the absence of an umbrella in the rain or a walking pole unless it was just an ornament stretches even my vivid imagination.
"Friends of Alice"? I've heard of "Friends of Dorothy" and "Friends of Bill W" but this is a new one to me.For those who are Friends of Alice
Maybe he's referring to going down rabbit holes?"Friends of Alice"? I've heard of "Friends of Dorothy" and "Friends of Bill W" but this is a new one to me.
I'm guilty of that.Don't forget towels.
My friend always utters....got the 3 Ps....purse passport and phone.. everytime we left after a nightstop....and we always looked back to be sure we left no rubbish behind...It seems to me that I am seeing more and more posts lately from people who have “lost” various items, from the crucial like credencials to the peripheral such as hats. We have seen posts about poles, cameras, necklaces, power adapters, sunglasses, guidebooks, even clothing.
I wonder if it’s people so focused on the prize, their goal, that they have lost all situational awareness. They stop walking, they put things down, they start walking again. They never look back, they never check “Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet and Watch”. Though how anyone can fail to notice the absence of an umbrella in the rain or a walking pole unless it was just an ornament stretches even my vivid imagination.
Every third Peregrino will have abandoned something somewhere. I think I could probably start walking from Roncesvalles with an empty backpack and be fully equipped by Pamplona and by Burgos I could probably open a store but how or why is this occurring?? Is it a (please pardon the language) “head-space” thing? That people are so wrapped into the experience that they have lost any perception of the process.
When that nice Galilean said “take up thy bed and walk” I’m sure the implication was “and make sure you have the rest of your stuff with you when you go”…
Or was it a half empty tube....that makes the loss a little easier to bear!The only thing I ever lost on a Camino was a half-full tube of toothpaste. I did consider making a ‘lost and found’ post but somehow I lost that thought.
Just no mindfulness - probably lost in the moving forward.Is it a (please pardon the language) “head-space” thing? That people are so wrapped into the experience that they have lost any perception of the process.
Confession time. I left my poles behind one morning, preoccupied by plans to meet a friend who was to join the camino that day. Sadly I'd just walked out of an inhospitable albergue in Fromista, which had a gate that locked shut. I realized it right away and had to wake the super grumpy owner at 7AM. Understandably, he was not very pleased.In 2017 I left my poles behind. Realised as soon as the big door shut behind us, then had to wait for a pilgrim to come out so I could get back in.
It seems to me that I am seeing more and more posts lately from people who have “lost” various items, from the crucial like credencials to the peripheral such as hats. We have seen posts about poles, cameras, necklaces, power adapters, sunglasses, guidebooks, even clothing.
I wonder if it’s people so focused on the prize, their goal, that they have lost all situational awareness. They stop walking, they put things down, they start walking again. They never look back, they never check “Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet and Watch”. Though how anyone can fail to notice the absence of an umbrella in the rain or a walking pole unless it was just an ornament stretches even my vivid imagination.
Every third Peregrino will have abandoned something somewhere. I think I could probably start walking from Roncesvalles with an empty backpack and be fully equipped by Pamplona and by Burgos I could probably open a store but how or why is this occurring?? Is it a (please pardon the language) “head-space” thing? That people are so wrapped into the experience that they have lost any perception of the process.
When that nice Galilean said “take up thy bed and walk” I’m sure the implication was “and make sure you have the rest of your stuff with you when you go”…
I learned the hard way after forgetting to look back twice. Now I am in the moment more consistently.It seems to me that I am seeing more and more posts lately from people who have “lost” various items, from the crucial like credencials to the peripheral such as hats. We have seen posts about poles, cameras, necklaces, power adapters, sunglasses, guidebooks, even clothing.
I wonder if it’s people so focused on the prize, their goal, that they have lost all situational awareness. They stop walking, they put things down, they start walking again. They never look back, they never check “Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet and Watch”. Though how anyone can fail to notice the absence of an umbrella in the rain or a walking pole unless it was just an ornament stretches even my vivid imagination.
Every third Peregrino will have abandoned something somewhere. I think I could probably start walking from Roncesvalles with an empty backpack and be fully equipped by Pamplona and by Burgos I could probably open a store but how or why is this occurring?? Is it a (please pardon the language) “head-space” thing? That people are so wrapped into the experience that they have lost any perception of the process.
When that nice Galilean said “take up thy bed and walk” I’m sure the implication was “and make sure you have the rest of your stuff with you when you go”…
I usually use that very same chant as I check my pockets for my valuables whenever I start walking after a break. Probably because as time goes by I grow more like the Blessed RC every day - at least in circumference. Though if a biopic is ever made of my life I will argue strongly that Gregor Fisher would be a better match.They never look back, they never check “Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet and Watch”.
I knew it!!They were great. We really enjoyed them
Having just finished the Francés, I think you have a point, and it's a general one: people are just focused on Getting It Done. An example would be the crowds ploughing past the Castro do Castromaior, completely uncaring that there's a major archeological site a few metres away. We read the Brierley book so we knew that there was something worth the detour to explore, here and in other places.I wonder if it’s people so focused on the prize, their goal, that they have lost all situational awareness.
Um...just an observation on assuming motives.Having just finished the Francés, I think you have a point, and it's a general one: people are just focused on Getting It Done. An example would be the crowds ploughing past the Castro do Castromaior, completely uncaring that there's a major archeological site a few metres away. We read the Brierley book so we knew that there was something worth the detour to explore, here and in other places.
The nice Galilean was not the guy with the 4 friends, it was the guy who had been lying on the bed that had 4 friends.The nice Galilean had four friends along with him. Lesson? Walk with a buddy who can keep you on track, perhaps?
Our camino frances and fisterra was just over 1200 km long as we spent time exploring almost every extra site mentioned in Brierley. It made days tiring but wonderful. May he rest in peace.Having just finished the Francés, I think you have a point, and it's a general one: people are just focused on Getting It Done. An example would be the crowds ploughing past the Castro do Castromaior, completely uncaring that there's a major archeological site a few metres away. We read the Brierley book so we knew that there was something worth the detour to explore, here and in other places.
I am sure you didn’t mean to imply a binary of reasons for which people choose to do a pilgrimage, I.e., that it’s either religious or sightseeing, but that is how your post comes across. A bit dismissive of anyone who is not religious doing a pilgrimage for any number of reasons. I believe the OP was (perhaps incorrectly) conjoining things lost or left behind with pilgrims not being present in the moment. Which, I think, is what he is a bit disturbed about. Being in pain, sticking to your planned route or any other experience (even losing things) doesn’t inherently detract from being present in the moment.Um...just an observation on assuming motives.
When I walked Sarria to Santiago, I and my husband had the energy to tour the Castro. Lovely site. I also took the detour to Vilar dos Doñas, even though it was closed.
OTOH, as I've noted elsewhere, on the Primitivo, I did not have the energy or the relief from pain to go even a meter off trail. I was, indeed, focused on "getting it done," because if I hadn't, I wouldn't have finished. I was doing this for religious reasons, not for "sightseeing."
I’m sure they « didn’t mean to imply a binary of reasons for which people choose to do a pilgrimage ». What I got from the original post is that each persons personal experience of the Camino can be influenced by a variety of different things. In this case time and fatigue. I didn’t get any sense that those walking for non religious reasons were being dismissed.I am sure you didn’t mean to imply a binary of reasons for which people choose to do a pilgrimage, I.e., that it’s either religious or sightseeing, but that is how your post comes across. A bit dismissive of anyone who is not religious doing a pilgrimage for any number of reasons. I believe the OP was (perhaps incorrectly) conjoining things lost or left behind with pilgrims not being present in the moment. Which, I think, is what he is a bit disturbed about. Being in pain, sticking to your planned route or any other experience (even losing things) doesn’t inherently detract from being present in the moment.
I don't think that was the main purpose of the post, which I think was just what you got from it. Nevertheless, I can see what M2ME was reacting to. Specifically:I’m sure they « didn’t mean to imply a binary of reasons for which people choose to do a pilgrimage ». What I got from the original post is that each persons personal experience of the Camino can be influenced by a variety of different things. In this case time and fatigue. I didn’t get any sense that those walking for non religious reasons were being dismissed.
Those quotation marks can certainly come across as disparaging or dismissive.I was doing this for religious reasons, not for "sightseeing."
????I am sure you didn’t mean to imply a binary of reasons for which people choose to do a pilgrimage, I.e., that it’s either religious or sightseeing, but that is how your post comes across. A bit dismissive of anyone who is not religious doing a pilgrimage for any number of reasons. I believe the OP was (perhaps incorrectly) conjoining things lost or left behind with pilgrims not being present in the moment. Which, I think, is what he is a bit disturbed about. Being in pain, sticking to your planned route or any other experience (even losing things) doesn’t inherently detract from being present in the moment.
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