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Do your own thingHi, we're doing a short section of the Portuguese camino starting in Lisbon in October. Do many people choose to bypass the first 10km or more until hitting the countryside?
the walk from the Lisbon cathedral in the middle of the Alfáma neighbourhood to the Parque the Nações is very nice (about 8 kms )
From there I should suggest to take the train to e.g. Vila Franca de Xira or even to Azambuja because you will walk on the hard shoulder of busy roads all the time
From Azambuja you walk through a remote agricultural area along the Tejo river
The first interesting place on your route will be Santarèm. Stay there at the Santarém Hostal in the towncenter If you can.
Santarém Hostel
Antunes Junior, R. Eng. Agrónomo António Antunes Júnior 26, 2000-040 Santarém, Portugal•+351 965 832 702. Book in advance because it can be busy. Nice place to stay
we loved the walk from Lisbon to Porto It took us 3 weeks
nice places like Tomar , Coimbra Stay there an extra day if possible for sightseeing
bom caminho
I agree. Between Alhandra and VFX, there is a new pedestrian/bicycle path along the river with quite a few murals (including one of a pilgrim!), and this was a very pleasant stretch to walk on.I think it would be a shame to miss the piece right before Vila Franca de Xira. The local government has been building infrastructure right along the Rio Tejo to make walking more comfortable for residents and pilgrims. The Caminho Pedonal Ribeirinho begins in Alhandra and I think is a really nice portion.
I'm not familiar with the chicken story on the Francés, but the story of the Barcelos Rooster is pretty well known - in fact the rooster is a symbol of Portugal that you will see in many souvenir shops.I am told the Camino Portuguese also has a similar “ chicken story “ as the one on the CF?!
I visited the Church Santo Domingo de la Calzada on my CF and the chickens were inside the church! Not sure who copied who etc or that’s what happened on both routes...check this out:I'm not familiar with the chicken story on the Francés, but the story of the Barcelos Rooster is pretty well known - in fact the rooster is a symbol of Portugal that you will see in many souvenir shops.
The Rooster of Barcelos
Barcelos is an ancient Portuguese city from the 12th century, in Braga District in the Minho Province, in the north of Portugal and is part of one of the many Ways to Santiago used in Portugal.portugal.com
And this is the somewhat familiar one from Camino PortugueseI'm not familiar with the chicken story on the Francés, but the story of the Barcelos Rooster is pretty well known - in fact the rooster is a symbol of Portugal that you will see in many souvenir shops.
The Rooster of Barcelos
Barcelos is an ancient Portuguese city from the 12th century, in Braga District in the Minho Province, in the north of Portugal and is part of one of the many Ways to Santiago used in Portugal.portugal.com
The intention is to walk the entire route; Portugal needs to offer more facilities and easy of walking to Pilgrims ( probably why the CF is pretty well organised ) I am told the Camino Portuguese also has a similar “ chicken story “ as the one on the CF?!
I decided to take the train at Sacevamthe walk from the Lisbon cathedral in the middle of the Alfáma neighbourhood to the Parque the Nações is very nice (about 8 kms )
From there I should suggest to take the train to e.g. Vila Franca de Xira or even to Azambuja because you will walk on the hard shoulder of busy roads all the time
From Azambuja you walk through a remote agricultural area along the Tejo river
The first interesting place on your route will be Santarèm. Stay there at the Santarém Hostal in the towncenter If you can.
Santarém Hostel
Antunes Junior, R. Eng. Agrónomo António Antunes Júnior 26, 2000-040 Santarém, Portugal•+351 965 832 702. Book in advance because it can be busy. Nice place to stay
we loved the walk from Lisbon to Porto It took us 3 weeks
nice places like Tomar , Coimbra Stay there an extra day if possible for sightseeing
bom caminho
I agree. And I have had some of my most memorable conversations with other pilgrims on the less than beautiful parts of the Camino.My advice @Siofa4 is to do it all, take it as it comes and you will be greatly rewarded for your efforts. There is not one step I would miss on any Camino, unless my life were in danger.
@Walton Never heard this line before! It's a good one that I'll have to keep in my memory bank!From woe to go as they say. You see the good and the bad.
If you don't walk the entire way, you will miss something, and we prefer to walk the entire way from woe to go as they say.
I say it the other way around - go to woe. A quick internet search seems to reveal that people look up which of the two is correct, and that the original expression was ‘go to whoa’ with the whoa being a command to get a horse to stop to indicate the end.@Walton Never heard this line before! It's a good one that I'll have to keep in my memory bank!
Thanks for your helpful reply.the walk from the Lisbon cathedral in the middle of the Alfáma neighbourhood to the Parque the Nações is very nice (about 8 kms )
From there I should suggest to take the train to e.g. Vila Franca de Xira or even to Azambuja because you will walk on the hard shoulder of busy roads all the time
From Azambuja you walk through a remote agricultural area along the Tejo river
The first interesting place on your route will be Santarèm. Stay there at the Santarém Hostal in the towncenter If you can.
Santarém Hostel
Antunes Junior, R. Eng. Agrónomo António Antunes Júnior 26, 2000-040 Santarém, Portugal•+351 965 832 702. Book in advance because it can be busy. Nice place to stay
we loved the walk from Lisbon to Porto It took us 3 weeks
nice places like Tomar , Coimbra Stay there an extra day if possible for sightseeing
bom caminho
It's all in what you are aiming for, I guess. Every Camino will have "industrial areas" and "boring areas" and otherwise undesirable areas. Do you just skip them all? For me, a pilgrimage is a pilgrimage and you don't insist on one thing or another to make yourself happy. Yes, the countries can make it better, safer and nicer for us, but, we are indeed guests and deserving of nothing.
My advice @Siofa4 is to do it all, take it as it comes and you will be greatly rewarded for your efforts. There is not one step I would miss on any Camino, unless my life were in danger. I have a website, with this day documented, from Lisbon to Alverca do Ribatejo, with lots and lots of photos for you to see, and judge for yourself if you wish to do it or not.
And, in case you didn't know, the official start of the Portugues Way is not the cathedral of Lisbon. Like I said, I always want to do every step of the way.
Let us know how you do, and Buen Camio!
I agree the first 8km out of Lisbon are interesting enough. But walking solo I found the next section less than great. And if I was walking solo again I would probably then take train from Oriente to Vilafranca de Xira. But this would be more personal safety than anything else. However, there is no necessity to actually start in Lisbon City centre, that is the wonder of pilgrimage you can literally start anywhere! Exiting and entering big cities are rarely great experiences so unless you are really determined for Lisbon to be your start then why not pick somewhere just north of the city
I agree the first 8km out of Lisbon are interesting enough. But walking solo I found the next section less than great. And if I was walking solo again I would probably then take train from Oriente to Vilafranca de Xira. But this would be more personal safety than anything else. However, there is no necessity to actually start in Lisbon City centre, that is the wonder of pilgrimage you can literally start anywhere! Exiting and entering big cities are rarely great experiences so unless you are really determined for Lisbon to be your start then why not pick somewhere just north of the city
Beautiful picture and thanks for the advice. We are doing it 'warts and all'!I walked Lisbon to Porto this year. Glad I walked the entire way. The walk out of Lisbon was fine and the walk along the river was great (photo from day 2 leaving Parque das Nacoes) - all part of the rich tapestry of life. But it's really down to you.
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CaptainBonnie Thanks for the well wishes. I have walked all of CF (no skipping any parts) and was supposed to do final 100km (plus a few) last year but Covid happened. Walked 100km+ each year since 2016. Plan to finish in Spring 2022 fingers crossed. Life is what happens in between the plans! May the road rise to meet you when you start the Way.Well whoever I get the green signal as PORTUGAL is still not accepting my COVISHIELD Travel Pass ( also Norway and Italy are not) whereas Spain Germany France and another 15 countries are “ YES”.. ) I intend to walk the CP in its entirety .. even CF had some rust and oxide and asphalt.. but I hit the deck !
Warmest Camino saludos
Capt Bonnie
I would agree on the safety factor (rather remote) of this stretch, and by-pass directly to Vilafranca de Xira. Once past the Parque Nachos the narrow dirt path wound it’s way through long grass with very few people around. It was the area where I felt the most anxious and vulnerable. I would not repeat that area again. I was walking solo.I agree the first 8km out of Lisbon are interesting enough. But walking solo I found the next section less than great. And if I was walking solo again I would probably then take train from Oriente to Vilafranca de Xira. But this would be more personal safety than anything else. However, there is no necessity to actually start in Lisbon City centre, that is the wonder of pilgrimage you can literally start anywhere! Exiting and entering big cities are rarely great experiences so unless you are really determined for Lisbon to be your start then why not pick somewhere just north of the city