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thanks Not sure why he couldn't find it himself . I read it , linked it quicker than usualSource: https://www.renfe.com/es/en/regulations
"Knives with blades measuring more than 6 cm in length." --> like with airplanes in Europe.
Source: https://www.renfe.com/es/en/regulations
"Knives with blades measuring more than 6 cm in length." --> like with airplanes in Europe.
If we start asking "why couldn't you find it yourself" i guess a lot of topics on this whole forum will take turn south... sometimes it's just the use of the correct use of a phrase on google one did not think of, but yeah, i guess sometimes it's not.thanks Not sure why he couldn't find it himself . I read it , linked it quicker than usual
Given the posting history, and the hostility... nahIf we start asking "why couldn't you find it yourself" i guess a lot of topics on this whole forum will take turn south... sometimes it's just the use of the correct use of a phrase on google one did not think of, but yeah, i guess sometimes it's not.
Because your needless words of criticism made my knee jerk, and caused me read the exact same link in a different way.thanks Not sure why he couldn't find it himself . I read it , linked it quicker than usual
Thank you for the link, but I cannot see anything about bade length on there.
As I said, the security officer was very specific about the length, or did you not see that due to your knee jerking so quickly?
I agree, arguing with security staff is a fruitless exercise, and could result in an internal examination. I was just trying to find out what the Renfe rules are, it is 6cm, and my Swiss army is longer.You that's a prolific traveller, will know that security staff everywhere will often have a mind of their own and won't go always go strictly by the regulations, but use their discretion, not always in your favour. Going up against them and quoting them their regulations is not something I would normally do.
But I agree with other posters.. leave your weapons at home.
I carry a knife when staying in a tent or an albergue/youth hostel/gîte. It has a corkscrew and the blade is a good bit longer than 6cm and is very sharp. It's not a weapon, unless you consider food as your enemy. If it's confiscated on a train journey then I buy another one. It's an Opinel, and they aren't very expensive. When I'm not travelling it lives in my bike saddlebag as a useful tool. I like to have a sharp knife when I'm cooking, thank you. On average I buy one about every five years. I leave it at home if I'm going to fly, I can buy another on arrival unless I have hold baggage. No point in getting worked up about such things.
Don't you use a knife when you are eating?Possibly some cultural differences at play here, maybe, but not exclusively, between rural folks and urban people. I am an urban person and knifes to me are synonymous with violence (I have only ever seen two outside of TV and shop windows), and both were used in violence against me. The London media are full of ‘knife crime’ stories and basically the idea that they only have one use. But to many, they are just normal everyday items and I get that and I certainly wouldn’t see someone with a fairly innocuous knife as a threat, but they can be triggering for some people. Probably worth being discrete with it though especially on trains and planes, and cities!!!
Like most things cultural sensitivity and common sense go a long way.
I think if they are in a box and all wrapped up it's probably OK. Unless the person checking is completely paranoid......I think the rules are those over 7.5cms blade or can be opened with one hand but I may be wrong, it could be 6 cms (I often am). But - what happens if one buys a kitchen knife set and wants to take it home on a train?
You found the exception to the knife rule in Spain: you can carry a knife, sword or whatever of any length providing you have the receipt proving it was bought that day. I expect that the station staff in Toledo are very used to bladed souvenirs.We had a knife confiscated, too. One that my teenage son had purchased as a souvenir in Toledo after our Camino. Folks may or may not know that Toledo has been famous for its blades for centuries. I talked him down from the sword. It was the only souvenir he had purchased, with a reasonable amount of his own money, on the entire trip to Spain. There had been no problem with it departing from Toledo. It was only on the last ride, back to Madrid from Valencia to catch our plane, that it was an issue. It's a shame that if there are things you can't carry on a train, you can't check them, like on a plane. Or that trains have such different rules than buses, which is what I think we had taken out of Toledo and to Valencia. If we had known earlier, we could have mailed the knife home. But to find a post office at that time would have meant missing the train, which would have meant missing the plane.
True. But it was in Valencia we were asked for the receipt and we had no foreknowledge that it would be needed. Needless to say, we hadn't kept it for a week in case we might be asked for it by RENFE. Had we known it might be an issue, we would have mailed it home from Toledo. When we were sold it in the shop, they offered to ship it home (if I recall correctly) but didn't warn us it would be an issue to take it on the train.You found the exception to the knife rule in Spain: you can carry a knife, sword or whatever of any length providing you have the receipt proving it was bought that day. I expect that the station staff in Toledo are very used to bladed souvenirs.
If you were intent on committing a train-based- knife-crime (which, clearly, one shouldn’t be) I suppose Rule 1 is ‘buy the weapon on the day of the crime’.
The exception is only good for the day of purchase.True. But it was in Valencia we were asked for the receipt and we had no foreknowledge that it would be needed. Needless to say, we hadn't kept it for a week in case we might be asked for it by RENFE. Had we known it might be an issue, we would have mailed it home from Toledo. When we were sold it in the shop, they offered to ship it home (if I recall correctly) but didn't warn us it would be an issue to take it on the train.
They confiscated a pair of scissors from me. To me it is just a sign of the timesI had a penknife confiscated at the scanner as I boarded the train from Santiago to Ferrol. Length of blade was the issue. I cannot recall what blade length was mentioned. They did measure the blade.
I have read this https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/pocket-knives-on-trains.61790/
and the info is not there, though blade length is mentioned.
Can anybody say the actual blade length that is permitted by security on a high speed train in Spain, Por favor.
A small pocketknife is hardly a weapon and arguably something most men should carry in their pocket.You that's a prolific traveller, will know that security staff everywhere will often have a mind of their own and won't go always go strictly by the regulations, but use their discretion, not always in your favour. Going up against them and quoting them their regulations is not something I would normally do.
But I agree with other posters.. leave your weapons at home.
6cm. Pretty sure that anyone trying to board with a knife upwards of half a metre long is going to be disappointed.If you are carrying a blade of more than 60 cm onto an AVE train, they might let you keep it.
Please, my initial reaction was this: xxxx, xxxx and xxxxxx, a knife is viewed as a weapon. Buy a new one. Por favor.
Stop with the silliness, men carry knives they're a tool until you demonize them.Please, my initial reaction was this: xxxx, xxxx and xxxxxx, a knife is viewed as a weapon. Buy a new one. Por favor.
Thanks. Always had problems with zeros.6cm. Pretty sure that anyone trying to board with a knife upwards of half a metre long is going to be disappointed.
I agree entirely. I don’t recall any train stations with walk-through metal detectors - although I have been asked to put my shoulder bag through the scanner occasionally.All I can say is that, from personal experience, they will X-ray your luggage, but not check what is in your pocket or shoulder bag.
It will get taken away. Several years ago, I bought 4 very nice dining knives in Santiago, without knowing the RENFE rules, and they were immediately confiscated. Lots of animated discussion from fellow travelers, they were securely taped and bubble wrapped inside a small duffel. Nope. They kept them. Drats and double drats.But - what happens if one buys a kitchen knife set and wants to take it home on a train?
This started the hostilities.Please, my initial reaction was this: xxxx, xxxx and xxxxxx, a knife is viewed as a weapon. Buy a new one. Por favor.
This continued, but I am puzzled about the suggestion to buy a new weapon on arrival in Spain.leave your weapons at home. Buy a new one if really needed
Truest post on the thread.Some very odd negative responses to this post
"They" confiscated a pair of manicure scissors from me on a flight in South America in 1969. Which, unbelievably, was 55 years ago!They confiscated a pair of scissors from me. To me it is just a sign of the times
True, but are women exempt from this? I like to carry one sometimes, too.A small pocketknife is hardly a weapon and arguably something most men should carry in their pocket.
Men? All men? Women never carry knives? And let’s not be naive, knives can be, and often are, used as weapons. There have been instances of knife attacks on trains in Europe so you can understand why the authorities are a bit twitchy about potential weaponsStop with the silliness, men carry knives they're a tool until you demonize them.
I assumed the two sexist posts would have been deleted by mods by now! It s like a different century on here. Or maybe too busy liking cheap jokes. Yea we all walk around with knives in our pockets. Especially the men. Maybe we can catch some food and take home for the women cook!Men? All men? Women never carry knives? And let’s not be naive, knives can be, and often are, used as weapons. There have been instances of knife attacks on trains in Europe so you can understand why the authorities are a bit twitchy about potential weapons
Sorry, sorry, but I am chuckling to myself, you related that story, perhaps word for word on the thread I linked to from 2019, let it go. But I do feel your painWe had a knife confiscated, too. One that my teenage son had purchased as a souvenir in Toledo after our Camino. Folks may or may not know that Toledo has been famous for its blades for centuries. I talked him down from the sword. It was the only souvenir he had purchased, with a reasonable amount of his own money, on the entire trip to Spain. There had been no problem with it departing from Toledo. It was only on the last ride, back to Madrid from Valencia to catch our plane, that it was an issue. It's a shame that if there are things you can't carry on a train, you can't check them, like on a plane. Or that trains have such different rules than buses, which is what I think we had taken out of Toledo and to Valencia. If we had known earlier, we could have mailed the knife home. But to find a post office at that time would have meant missing the train, which would have meant missing the plane.
Yea very entertaining and a reminder that we all see things differently. I have not got a knife on me, but am on a train in Canada at moment. Don’t know if knives are permitted but alcohol isn’t! I just took a couple of cans out of my bag ( not to drink, but to change bags) and the looks I got!! Think a knife would have been better received.What a thread! It has reached the point of absurdity, good for entertainment if people don't get too hostile.
This started the hostilities.
This continued, but I am puzzled about the suggestion to buy a new weapon on arrival in Spain.
Truest post on the thread.
"They" confiscated a pair of manicure scissors from me on a flight in South America in 1969. Which, unbelievably, was 55 years ago!
True, but are women exempt from this? I like to carry one sometimes, too.
It is amusing when you say leave your weapons at home, when one walks past a Spanish knife shop, and sees a display of the most lethal looking knives in the window. I always wonder who buys them and do many Spanish carry knives, the same in France.
Some years ago I had a pair of children’s safety scissors (6cm rounded blades) confiscated by a particularly officious woman working on the security scanner at Dublin airport. Annoying, but not worth a pointless argument about pointless scissors. On returning from my trip, I stopped for a coffee on the campus where I was employed, and was confronted by the same woman working the till. No, she didn’t confiscate my coffee; she tried to charge me tourist rate instead. This time, I did protest, loudly.You that's a prolific traveller, will know that security staff everywhere will often have a mind of their own and won't go always go strictly by the regulations, but use their discretion, not always in your favour. Going up against them and quoting them their regulations is not something I would normally do.
Did you not ask her if she had your scissors?Some years ago I had a pair of children’s safety scissors (6cm rounded blades) confiscated by a particularly officious woman working on the security scanner at Dublin airport. Annoying, but not worth a pointless argument about pointless scissors. On returning from my trip, I stopped for a coffee on the campus where I was employed, and was confronted by the same woman working the till. No, she didn’t confiscate my coffee; she tried to charge me tourist rate instead. This time, I did protest, loudly.
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