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You shouldn't need to buy a guidebook, although if you are taking a phone an app or two might be helpful. I found the route well-marked.I am looking to do 2 days on the coastal route and then go inland to the central route at villa de conde and finish with the spiritual route. Will I need to buy a guidebook to follow this route and find all the turnings?
Agreed 100%. If you have a newer phone, consider getting an eSIM. I did that on a spur of the moment in Porto (using my hotel’s wifi). Having data has been a God’s send. I will never travel without getting an eSIM again.Wise Pilgrim app, specifically the map route feature, is all I used this past December. Due to flooding I also used google maps in conjunction to find alternative paths that would meet back up with the route but that’s it.
If you aren’t from there and already have access, go to a Vodophone store and get hooked up with local sim for data and the gps will be more accurate too
Doing exactly the same right now. Works great. No need to carry extra weightI’m not using my Bierley book at all. The app I’m using the most is the Buen Camino, followed by the Wise Pilgrim. I’ve only needed the apps to help when I’m in a city. Otherwise the way is clearly marked.
Ohhhh, I had an eSIM too but the vodophone people in the shop set it up. I didn’t realize you could just go online and set it up yourself. Was there a particular site you did this on? I’m going to Spain again in June to do the Norte and it would be nice to not have to find a shop. LolAgreed 100%. If you have a newer phone, consider getting an eSIM. I did that on a spur of the moment in Porto (using my hotel’s wifi). Having data has been a God’s send. I will never travel without getting an eSIM again.
After a bit of looking at various options, I ended up going with Orange. This link was helpful. https://thesavvybackpacker.com/best-esim-for-europe-travel/Ohhhh, I had an eSIM too but the vodophone people in the shop set it up. I didn’t realize you could just go online and set it up yourself. Was there a particular site you did this on? I’m going to Spain again in June to do the Norte and it would be nice to not have to find a shop. Lol
There is a route in Wise Pilgrim, but on my version, it doesn't go to Arcos. I checked some other sources, and there is at least one alternative to the route shown in Wise Pilgrim, including one in OSMAnd+ that does join the CP Central route at Arcos. The WisePilgrim route appears to be the same as one on the CNIG website, and joins the CP Central route just before Rates. In addition, the Wise Pilgrim route displays a couple of short complementary routes that are not shown on the route provided by CNIG.The Wise Pilgrim app has a map on the coastal to switch at Vila do Conde to Arcos then Ratos. I am told that can be used offline to check your location. I plan on using that.
Hi!I am looking to do 2 days on the coastal route and then go inland to the central route at villa de conde and finish with the spiritual route. Will I need to buy a guidebook to follow this route and find all the turnings?
I found no confusion getting out of Porto starting from the cathedral. I just walked downhill to the river, along the river to the ocean, and north along the seashore. I can't imagine how one would get lost on this route.Hi!
No. I walked the Portuguese from Porto to Santiago and the only confusing part is getting out of Porto (if you walk it - which I did, but many bus or train out of it bc of the heavy traffic and mostly street walking). I used an app (I have a legacy Camino Nina download) - it was enough to help avoid any confusion.
Buen Camino,
The good apps should show the alternative routes as much as any guide book. For example, looking at the Wise Pilgrim app it shows both ways into O Porriño with advice about which to take.Thanks just wondering then is there any short cuts/detours people found on the route that may not be marked on the apps, but were better options than say the main road at certain points
I know this is a bit of how long is a piece os string but how much data did you ask for?Wise Pilgrim app, specifically the map route feature, is all I used this past December. Due to flooding I also used google maps in conjunction to find alternative paths that would meet back up with the route but that’s it.
If you aren’t from there and already have access, go to a Vodophone store and get hooked up with local sim for data and the gps will be more accurate too
There are different routes out of Porto. If you’re following the arrows and markers on the central route, they’re variably spaced and not always in a location easy to see or at crossroads. Not at all with the frequency of the Frances.I found no confusion getting out of Porto starting from the cathedral. I just walked downhill to the river, along the river to the ocean, and north along the seashore. I can't imagine how one would get lost on this route.
That's why I specified that I hadn't taken the Central route out of Porto but had followed the river and seashore, only switching to the Central at Vila do Conde. It's a lot less confusing that way.There are different routes out of Porto. If you’re following the arrows and markers on the central route, they’re variably spaced and not always in a location easy to see or at crossroads. Not at all with the frequency of the Frances.
Maybe you missed seeing them all. I didn't find following the Central route out of Porto at all difficult, and I wouldn't guarantee that I saw all the waymarks.There are different routes out of Porto. If you’re following the arrows and markers on the central route, they’re variably spaced and not always in a location easy to see or at crossroads. Not at all with the frequency of the Frances.
I was about to download the WisePilgrim app, but it specified Camino Frances. Are there different apps for each route, or will I find Portgues on this one, too? Thanks!I carried a guidebook on the CP last year and again this year, and have a number of apps loaded, both general purpose mapping apps like OSMAnd+ and IGN, and specialist apps like WisePilgrim. I did get 'disoriented' this year on the Variant Espiritual, but that was my own inattentiveness, not any lack of waymarking. There will always be some tit-bit of information in one place that isn't always in the others, and some things that I found our along the way about places to stay that weren't in any of these.
There is a route in Wise Pilgrim, but on my version, it doesn't go to Arcos. I checked some other sources, and there is at least one alternative to the route shown in Wise Pilgrim, including one in OSMAnd+ that does join the CP Central route at Arcos. The WisePilgrim route appears to be the same as one on the CNIG website, and joins the CP Central route just before Rates. In addition, the Wise Pilgrim route displays a couple of short complementary routes that are not shown on the route provided by CNIG.
Wise Pilgrim, Buen Camino, and Gronze all allow you to select between different routes.I was about to download the WisePilgrim app, but it specified Camino Frances. Are there different apps for each route, or will I find Portgues on this one, too? Thanks!
As I understand the pattern used by @wisepilgrim, there is a general app available without payment that covers most routes, but which doesn't have all the content that is available on the route specific apps that do require a payment. So I have both the general and the Portuguese Wise Pilgrim apps loaded. The Portuguese app doesn't have content about the Camino Frances, so I wouldn't expect the CF app to have CP related content.I was about to download the WisePilgrim app, but it specified Camino Frances. Are there different apps for each route, or will I find Portgues on this one, too? Thanks!
There is a free, more basic "All routes" app. It has the maps and albergue listings, etc. But it doesn't have the more in-depth information about each location.I was about to download the WisePilgrim app, but it specified Camino Frances. Are there different apps for each route, or will I find Portgues on this one, too? Thanks!
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