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Hi Silvia.
I also plan to walk next year, the Le Puy route from the start of November.
The training that I have started is doing around 10km in one stretch once a week for a few weeks, basically until I felt comfortable with this and not feeling too tired afterwards.
Then I started doing up to 15 km until comfortable, I will keep adding on around 5km until I can do around 25-30km a couple of times a week.
When this has become comfortable for me I will lower the distance again but add a weighted pack on. At the minute I usually carry around 5kg with me, and after adding up the kit I intend to take with me, which comes to around 13kg, I will build up to this weight.
This is just my training schedule, and I'm sure others have different ideas, but what I would say is most important is to listen to your body as much as possible while training.
I walk pretty fast in my daily coming and going, and I noticed I was doing this when training, and I was getting very tired afterwards, the last few weeks I have tried to zone out while walking, so basically letting my body set the pace, and I've noticed a real difference in how I feel afterwards. It takes me slightly longer to complete training, but I feel much better afterwards.
I hope this helps,
Tony
I love Map My Walk app! It is one of the best apps I've found, IMO!Map my Walk is great.
Walk to ease your joints in to the effort that will be expected of them. Carry a comfortable weight but don't overdo it. Of course, make sure your boots are broken in.
For me, the most important training was not physical but mental.
Only if you choose such! Five to 15 kilometer days are also possible, with or without a backpack. I recommend that you show up without expectations about your physical capability. Use the first two weeks as training weeks. There is an ad for sensible dieting that is currently running in the U.S. It reminds the viewer that you do not start an exercise program by running a marathon. Small changes are easier to sustain. Take that philosophy with you to the camino; do what you can, then quit. Do not push yourself for at least the first two weeks. You have nothing to prove to others by trying to stay with them. Choose your own, achievable, goals.finishing about 10 kilometers through some minor hills in a county park and it hit me: Ugh! A day on the camino might be 2.5 or 3 times this!
Tad - I agree with Mark. The Camino is around 75% mental preparation and 25% physical. That you are starting the physical now is great - the more km's you put into your legs/feet the more your brain is going to know how to deal with the emotional aspects. Don't worry if you don't end up doing all the training some recommend - the Camino Frances allow you to start with short days (10 km) and build-up as both the mind; the heart; the legs; the feet all learn to cope. Also don't feel like a failure if you need to stop and rest for a day or so - in fact I would recommend that you plan to include at least 2/3 rest days. There are lots of interesting things to see on the Camino. Also if necessary take a bus if you need to cut out a section or two - remember you really only need to walk the last 100 km to qualify for a compostela (the church certificate). Have a great Camino and send us a report when you reach SDCYour thinking is close here. It is good you recognize that ths is a significant physical challenge which in my mind made it one aspect that is rewarding. I suggest you also walk slower than you normlly would with plenty of rests on the actual Camino. Normally when we head out for a walk we have time constraints so I naturally walked this way on the Camino. Big misake! You have all day to walk and no harm in going slower and shorter distances as suggested above. To me the Camino was an experience of culture, history, geography and personal reflection together with comaraderie. There is no horror here .............. it's an awsome experience - just do it as you body allows you to.
Mark
Start training, as a plus 60 yrs I climb a mountain, crough Patrick every 2 wks, 3 hours bliss, gets muscles going, a long walk on beach about 2 hours 2 times a week and my secret weapon, steps, again lucky on my beach 18 steps, i run up and down steps 18 steps 10 times that's total 260 steps, great for lungs, I crank that up to 2o times a few months before camino, but total rest for 2 wks before camino, never get a blister and competed still in bag after 7 caminos, I am fit for Pyrenees on first day, 6 hrs to roncesvalles and next day Pamplona, I then slow down for a week 20/25 km day, last wear old broken in boots, I cringe when I see brand new boots in sjpdep, trouble, blisters. Buen camino
There is much debate on this, and many who would disagree that a lot of preparation is necessary. There is clearly a greater challenge walking day after day than doing a couple of long walks on a weekend, but getting walking fit is not that difficult.Walking on the camino needs alot of preparation. Back home problems never seem to crop up but then all breaks loose on the camino.
After buying the plane ticket and blocking a month of vacation, is there anything else to do when adversity hits on the camino?I am somewhat perplexed by the way pilgrims endure their pain.
After buying the plane ticket and blocking a month of vacation, is there anything else to do when adversity hits on the camino?
Discomfort, yes; misery, no. Expect it to be difficult, but do not make it more difficult than it really is. The trick is knowing where the crossover point is. There is preparation and planning, then there is execution. Forcing execution to fit the mold created by planning can be very dangerous. Abandon expectations, and be flexible. That will make a camino much more pleasant.
Buen camino.
Hola Packinglight - would you please advise the name of the tracking app you are using, or is the "Map My Walk" mentioned below. Thanks
My training was red wine and tapas!! Don't over do it - either walking, drinking or eating. Have a look at [commercial link removed by moderator] for info about what to take and weight and remember to enjoy it!!Hello Everyone,
I'm new to this site and I'm wondering how do you train to do the Camino? I've been hiking every Saturday and each week adding more time/miles, but listining to my body so that I don't over do it and get injuries.
Any suggestions? I'm planning on walking next year not sure if summer or early fall (probably).
Thanks,
Silvia
And that's OK - I say this because I think most anyone can walk the Camino. No one should stay home just because they do not have the time to "train". Much of the "training" will happen on the Camino itself, if you're smart about it.
Just walk. And rather than train, plan more time for your trip, drop your agenda. Trying to squeeze it in to a particular time frame is an injury waiting to happen. If you don't think you can do that, pick a shorter route. It is a blessing to walk a pilgrimage not torture...
Siobhan02-- all that is wonderful, but beware of risks BEFORE the Camino. I personally would had book the horse riding thingy for AFTER...I am new to this forum, though I will admit I have been trawling for info for a while. I am planning to walk the Camino Frances in May '14 and though I'm not incredibly unfit I don't want to ruin the experience with blisters and sore feet/legs. I have started, a couple of weeks ago, going for 5km walks after work, and doing a longer more challenging walk on the weekend, yesterday was 10kms flat bayside walk, the weekend before a more challenging hill climb.I am doing this in my hiking shoes and Teva sandals to wear them in, though when they rubbed my heels after a short while the other day I went barefoot and after 5 kms had some spectacular blisters on the soles of both feet. I think its a great idea to introduce carrying weight once you're comfortable with the distance, I will adopt that method...
Also I have signed up for a 12 week body challenge (run by one of the trainers on a TV show here in Australia 'The Biggest Loser') not because I need to lose weight but because all in all I want to be fitter and healthier...not getting any younger here! And it happens to coincide with my departure to Spain, and I am going horse riding for a week near Madrid prior to the walk...
All of us should just KEEP moving. Each time I garden on our sloping hillside, carry a load of groceries, stoop to make a bed, etc. I like to think that such effort will make it easier NEXT time to climb up the Ibaneta pass or trudge through the O Cebreiro snow.
MM
And there is the interesting study of housemaids in motels; even though their work was very physical they tested as having poor fitness levels. But after it was pointed out to them that the incidental exercise they did each day was equivalent to a gym session they mysteriously lost weight and hugely improved on the fitness tests! So just being aware is helpful. I'm hoping that thinking about fitness will get me there....
Training for the Camino:
(1) spend a lot of time reading this forum sitting at the computer
(2) do some walking around hiking shops choosing gear
(3) eat cakes (madrilenas) for breakfast, have fried potatoes with everything, drink plenty of red wine at lunch and eat churros and chocolate every night; this will accustom your stomach to Spanish food
(4) get as much sleep as possible in preparation for disturbed nights in noisy dorms
(5) pray a lot for St James to help you make it.
But seriously, most of my training for the Camino is walking the Camino. I complain a lot for the first two weeks. Do not follow my example!
Look at the camino Portuges forum. Actual item at this moment.Mmm. Regardless of where you start there are hills on the Camino Frances (commonly known as "the Camino"). Spain is second only to Switzerland in average elevation (in Europe). The meseta between Burgos and Leon probably is the flattest part; but even that has a steep hill out of Castrojeriz - but Fromista to Leon is flat. Of course you can catch buses and taxis everywhere and my friend with only 15% lung capacity did that. For example he started walking from SJPDP along the Valcarlos route (there was no way he could have even started the mountain route) and when the road started to get too steep he called a taxi which took him to Roncesvalles. He could have stopped overnight at one if the villages but wanted to keep up with us. You can also have your pack carried the whole route which might help. Just that catching taxis and buses the whole route rather defeats the purpose.
Have you thought about one of the other Caminos? I've never done the Via de la Plata so can't assist with that but in France I've walked from Orleans on the pilgrim trail (Via Touronensis) which is flat, and took a detour on the Arles route to walk the canal du Midi (dead flat!).
I'm sure others on the forum will also have suggestions.
I saw a talk on biking from northern Canada to southern Argentina. He was asked about preparation....answer---two weeks of incredible partying.
we are currently in hontanas. We are in our mid 60s. Our advice would be to train on rocky ground because there is a lot more of that than we expected and therefore more twists on feet and boots. We trained on flat and hills but had no real off road conditions near us. Buen caminoHello Everyone,
I'm new to this site and I'm wondering how do you train to do the Camino? I've been hiking every Saturday and each week adding more time/miles, but listining to my body so that I don't over do it and get injuries.
Any suggestions? I'm planning on walking next year not sure if summer or early fall (probably).
Thanks,
Silvia
Trekking poles are great for minimizing those lateral rolls! Buen camino. Animo!rocky ground because there is a lot more of that than we expected
Agree don't leave home without poles or a staff invaluable !!Trekking poles are great for minimizing those lateral rolls! Buen camino. Animo!
Hello! What walking app were you using? I have one, but it doesn't send me reports like this, just one immediately after each walk.I'm not walking until summer 2014, but I'm already training!
I got a nice app on my smartphone which uses GPS to track my route/speed then sends me weekly and monthly summaries. It's very motivating for me.
I'm in my 40s, very overweight but fit for my weight, if that makes sense. Last month I walked about 110 kms, month before over 150. This includes walks to and from work, and extras where I can. July I've hardly walked at all but I'm doing home renos and tennis 4X / week.
I don't use the app at work but my job isn't sedentary so that helps keep me moving.
I'm alternatively excited and terrified of doing the Camino. I figure at my age, weight, and lack of hiking experience, I need to raise my general fitness and endurance as much as possible. My poor knees and ankles don't need the extra body weight in addition to carrying a pack day after day.
I'm doing a 5-day walk next month on a portion of the Jakobsweg in Austria, although we haven't decided yet which portion! That should give me a feeling as to how much walking I can do.
Training and blisters are not related (except for finding "hot spots" caused by your boots during training walks). Following is the fool-proof way to avoid blisters:
Work in your boots for several hundred kilometers before heading for a long walk. When buying boots, wear the sock combination detailed below in order to get a proper fit. Do not be surprised if the size you buy is different from your normal shoes, perhaps a 1/2 size larger and a step wider (I wear narrow A or B width shoes, but buy a D boot to accommodate socks and an anti-pronating inner sole).
Use a silicone-type lubricant on clean feet each morning (Sportslick and Hydropel are two brands available in the U.S.; Amazon.com carries Sportslick). It waterproofs your skin. Moisture is the primary cause of blisters.
Wear a polypropylene inner sock to wick away moisture. DO NOT USE COTTON SOCKS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
Wear a wool or wool-blend outer sock (Thorlo). I use medium weight socks, but you may like heavy or light weight. Pick the one that does not make your boots too tight. Much of the friction inside your boot will be absorbed between the polypro liner and the wool sock. In effect, the polypro adheres to your foot and its lubricant, and the wool sock adheres to your boot.
Carry some Compeed. Compeed on the shelf of a nearby farmacia will not help you when you really need it! If you detect a "hot spot" on your foot, stop IMMEDIATELY. Do not wait for the mentally-scheduled break on the hour. Do not let walking companions deter you. Their desire to get to that first cafe con leche could end up ruining your five week Camino as you limp along with a growing blister. Eventually your other foot and leg will develop problems as you change your gait to compensate for the blister. While everyone else is having fun doing eating, drinking, and doing laundry, you will be tending your blister. Honestly, your friends are NOT worth it! You can always find new friends, but the blister-to-be is your private-enemy-number-one and needs you now.
Thoroughly clean the hot area with isopropyl alcohol so that the Compeed will adhere. Warm the Compeed in your armpit for a minute, then apply it over the hot spot. Do not remove it until it falls off of its own volition. It will rip a hole in new skin even better than it prevents a blister!
A minor cautionary note: The silicone lubricant can make your bare feet very slippery on some surfaces, so tread carefully to and in the shower.
If you follow ALL the steps, I guarantee that you will never have a blister. Skip one, and all promises are off.
Other things that help promote foot comfort are removing your boots and socks each hour to let them dry a bit (a Japanese fellow pilgrim squeezed lemon juice onto his feet at each stop to dry them!); changing socks midday; and putting on dry socks after the rain stops (though I have hiked for several days in wet/damp socks and been protected by the silicone).
My view is that the major issue is that liner socks DON'T have any cotton in the mix. I currently use liner socks that are a wool blend or coolmax. I don't think either of the fabrics has any polypropylene.Great advice.
One question:
For the polypropylene inner sock what percentage polypropylene should they be? I see some that are 100%, I see some that are 83% nylon, 15% polypropylene and 2% spandex.
If anyone has a link to some of the ones that they have successfully used please post.
Thank you!
Use a silicone-type lubricant on clean feet each morning (Sportslick and Hydropel are two brands available in the U.S.; Amazon.com carries Sportslick). It waterproofs your skin. Moisture is the primary cause of blisters.
Hello Everyone,
I'm new to this site and I'm wondering how do you train to do the Camino? I've been hiking every Saturday and each week adding more time/miles, but listining to my body so that I don't over do it and get injuries.
Any suggestions? I'm planning on walking next year not sure if summer or early fall (probably).
Thanks,
Silvia
Hi roboSorry, I realise this is an old thread, but......... Can these products be bought along the CF, or do you bring enough for the whole walk? Couldn't see anything about buying locally (maybe I missed it)
This might be okay if someone is starting from a higher fitness level, but it really doesn't help others. Even as a regular walker, I prefer a gradual build up of both distance and pack weight when I am preparing for longer distances. Also mix up distances. I do shorter walks during the week and my longer walks on weekends, building up each week in small increments of around 2-3 km. I rarely walk with my full Camino pack until the last couple of weeks, but do carry a day pack (maybe 5kg max) on weekend walks.The best way to train is to take a hike with your pack. Maybe not 20 miles, but hike a few miles, as often as you can.
This might be okay if someone is starting from a higher fitness level, but it really doesn't help others. Even as a regular walker, I prefer a gradual build up of both distance and pack weight when I am preparing for longer distances. Also mix up distances. I do shorter walks during the week and my longer walks on weekends, building up each week in small increments of around 2-3 km. I rarely walk with my full Camino pack until the last couple of weeks, but do carry a day pack (maybe 5kg max) on weekend walks.
Simply make sure you are walking/training with a pack that has similar weight to what you will be carrying on the Camino. This will make a HUGE differenceHello Everyone,
I'm new to this site and I'm wondering how do you train to do the Camino? I've been hiking every Saturday and each week adding more time/miles, but listining to my body so that I don't over do it and get injuries.
Any suggestions? I'm planning on walking next year not sure if summer or early fall (probably).
Thanks,
Silvia
Simply make sure you are walking/training with a pack that has similar weight to what you will be carrying on the Camino. This will make a HUGE difference
Thanks Falcon for your detailed comments. I am at the very early planning stage and already feel I am benefitting. We are planning on the last 100kns only. I have had a knee replacement and will be my first ever distance walk. July 2017 which hopefully won't be unbearably hot. Many thanksMy personal choice: http://www.sportslick.com/
I used http://www.2toms.com/products-page/spor ... ld-roll-on this October, and it kept my socks much cleaner than the SportSlick. Other users have found the powder very messy to use, but the roll-on was great for feet and inner thighs.
From a runners' website:
We will hope with you! Today seems to be quite pleasant, but July typically gets into the 90's with humidity. Don't try for "traditional" stages if you are having physical problems. Take nine or ten days to do the stretch. If you keep the actual walking to an hour with plenty of coffee, food, water, and rest breaks, you will enjoy it and avoid injury. Keeping your pack with you will allow you to stop a few kilometers early or late on planned stages. Go to this site to see stopping places and the elevations:July 2017 which hopefully won't be unbearably hot.
For training, please try to go 'off-road' on trails as well as on pavement. And do hills as much as possible. There are so many different muscles that you use in your legs, ankles and feet for each kind of terrain that if you don't strengthen them all you will wind up with problems.
As someone who had to stop their 1st Camino due to leg problems I can't agree more with the advice to go slow the first several days, even 1st week, until your body gets used to this new 'endurance' test. There is no reason you 'have' to get to a certain town each night, there are plenty of places to stay, at least along the Camino Frances.
And, although its very much considered the 'start' of the CF, I'd suggest NOT starting in St Jean-Pier-de-Port as its a very very long, arduous first day's walk to Roncevalles and then a long downhill the next day. You'll be feeling tired and sore from this first day's stage for many days afterwards...
Either of these could work. So could staying at Orisson on the first night. However, if you are reasonably prepared - meaning your body is accustomed to lots of walking and can comfortably walk 20+ km with your backpack), you will probably do fine. Just don't rush up the hill to Orisson, and do use walking poles on the downhill into Roncesvalles.Hello, so you do you mean better to start a bit earlier, maybe Bordeaux/Biarritz-Bayonne for example and by the time you get to StJPdP you're a bit more conditioned or do you mean start somewhere else altogether and avoid that first difficult stage?
Hello, so you do you mean better to start a bit earlier, maybe Bordeaux/Biarritz-Bayonne for example and by the time you get to StJPdP you're a bit more conditioned or do you mean start somewhere else altogether and avoid that first difficult stage?
I've also disappointedly learned in another thread that that the trail/pass through the mountains is closed in winter until April and the walk will be on the side of or along the albeit quiet main roads.
If that is the case, then combined with the fact that Roncesvalles and the Pilgrim's Mass is considered the start anyway I'm going to investigate starting from either Biarritz airport or Bayonne train station (I know it's possible to catch a train from up here in the more north western end of England at around 9-10am and get to Bayonne for around 6-7pm via Eurostar and TGV etc so that appeals very much more than flying) and walking along the coast and then dropping down to Roncesvalles.
My only concern on doing that is missing out on the other 'ritual' of going to the pilgrim's office and meeting all the other pilgrims in StJDPP on their first day too, a bit like the first day at school when we were kids where you often made your best friends for life
Hello Everyone,
I'm new to this site and I'm wondering how do you train to do the Camino? I've been hiking every Saturday and each week adding more time/miles, but listining to my body so that I don't over do it and get injuries.
Any suggestions? I'm planning on walking next year not sure if summer or early fall (probably).
Thanks,
Silvia
For training, please try to go 'off-road' on trails as well as on pavement. And do hills as much as possible. There are so many different muscles that you use in your legs, ankles and feet for each kind of terrain that if you don't strengthen them all you will wind up with problems.
As someone who had to stop their 1st Camino due to leg problems I can't agree more with the advice to go slow the first several days, even 1st week, until your body gets used to this new 'endurance' test. There is no reason you 'have' to get to a certain town each night, there are plenty of places to stay, at least along the Camino Frances.
And, although its very much considered the 'start' of the CF, I'd suggest NOT starting in St Jean-Pier-de-Port as its a very very long, arduous first day's walk to Roncevalles and then a long downhill the next day. You'll be feeling tired and sore from this first day's stage for many days afterwards...
I think this is an interesting and helpful subject.
I think the need for preparation/training depends on the route. With the Camino Frances the pilgrim infrastructure is developed therefore it is possible to walk shorter distances, take things easy, build up stamina and get your body used to it.
However even there I encountered people who had just looked up a packing list on the internet, packed a rusack and departed for Spain. IMHO this seriously increases the chances of encountering very real problems of blisters and pain which can take all pleasure out of a Camino even to the point of people becoming so disheartened they have to go home.
Before walking my first route which was the Va de la Plata I did a lot of preparation - regular little walks, building up to longer city walks using http://www.walkit.com then fully kitted 10 - 12 mile hikes before increasing these to longer rural walks. I had some discomfort at the beginning carrying a full pack but no blisters.
And so I set off. What I hadn't realised fully was that I had picked a route where often there was no alternative to walking 25 - 30 kms to the next bed whether an albergue or a hostal. Then there were those little directions in the guide book which in my innocence I hadn't realised had a real sting: " Turn left at the end of the road and walk in a straight line along the road for 16 kms " then turn right and walk over the mountain!
Within two - three days I had large and painful blisters. It was time for reflection.
As has been said, again and again, there is a huge difference between the kind of day walking or even two - three days walking I had done for a lot of my life and long distance walking for 6 - 10 hours every day for several weeks. Although I had read in this forum and elsewhere about the importance of keeping weight down the bottom line is I thought that I knew best. I was walking in Winter, the days were short - dark by 6 pm and so I took a little radio. I was walking in winter and so I did what I would have done in Scotland ...I took a flask ( lightweight!) and a supply of dried soup. Just in case! I took spare everything. Just in case.
I came to the painful realisation that despite my preparations all of my problems stemmed from the amount of weight I was carrying and like many pilgrims before me I ditched stuff, sent some on ahead and as I dressed my blisters in the evening began to think about what was essential....even small places have Farmacias, why did I have a first aid kit I in fact have never needed having walked a number of routes now? Why was I carrying that plastic bag of spare bits and pieces...clothes pegs, a ball of string rather than a length of string - scissors for heaven's sake!
Nowadays I am disappointed if I am tempted to pack any more than 7 kgs. But in saying that I know that I learned the lesson the hard way. I also know that over time you come to know what you are really going to need everyday and you begin to swap clothes for lighter versions, picking up things in sales and so on. My problem in the beginning was I read all of this advice but I never understood the vital importance of it.
Finally I think as well as choosing the route and concentrating on getting weight down it is important to think about the time of the year. If walking in winter the days will be short - the daylight hours can be cut to 8.30 - 6pm. So if it is best to walk slowly sometimes taking plenty of breaks pick a time of the year when you can do that.
Weight, weight, weight
John
I like this advice!! Can’t see how I can walk for hours in my normal daily schedule.I personally think that the need to train for a long period prior to starting is greatly overrated. It may, if fact, do more harm than good since you will putting a lot of "wear" on your joints. I found on my two caminos that by starting slowly for the first few days I worked myself into condition. The important thing is to be sure that your footwear is comfortable and that your pack fits properly.
Friars balsam will fix that issue. Just don’t put it on the blister but around the blister site. It will keep any adhesive on for longer,I find that Compeed (and waterproof Elastoplast) will not adhere to my skin. It comes off within a few hours no matter how clean and dry the skin before application. Fabric type 'elastoplast' will stay on for 24 hours+, even through taking a shower. I suggest that it would be wise to try a small patch of Compeed before starting on the Camino. If it will not do the job, you need to know!
buen Camino
Tio Tel
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