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hi all, i just wondered if there is any way to walk the camino and NOT GET BLISTERS.
i have just completed a 50km walk on friday as a fundraiser in australia and i am covered in blisters. I had the stamina for the walk but the blisters, especially around the outside of the heals were really painful and hindered my enjoyment. i just wonder how i will cope with such a long walk as the Camino.
i have booked to start in sj in September and feel a bit daunted by this.
i would love to hear from anyone who did the walk and did not get blisters.
ps, i am already double socking AND AM ON MY 5TH PAIR OF BOOTS!!
juju
The only thing is will add to this already extended thread comes from a very close friend of mine who has walked the alps all his life (70+) and served in the Swiss army! It has been unfailing for all my training walks.
1. Keep your feet dry.
2. Wear one pair of socks - my favorite are Dahlgren with alpaca.
3. NEVER take off your boots until the day is done.
4. Wash your feet with water as cold as you can stand it when you arrive.
Buen camino
Well, I'm "only" 43 and mountaineering (with 5 years of free climbing when much younger) in Slovenian Alps from age 5. And I would only second 1s and 4th advice. Also advice 1 and 3 are in opposition I think. I always wear one pair of very thin socks and one pair of thicker socks. Both 100% cotton. And I always take off my boots after 2-3 hours of walking. Same in the Alps and on the Camino. NEVER had a blister in my entire life
But what I really wanted to say is that we are (not to speak of our feet...) sooo much different that there simply could not be universal answer to the problem. I would just say that prior to such a hike like CF you better be sure what you're wearing and how prepared you are. Because it could be a lot of suffering if you just liked the movie The Way, put your office chair aside and go to Spain
Or as someone said: "El dolor es inevitable, pero el sufrimiento es opcional" (The pain is inevitable, but the suffering is optional).
Ultreia!
I go with wash in cold water, I always use basin and add as much ice as I have to cold water, and don't take off boots till end od day, worked for me, oh I do wash basin after me so fine your veggie wash laterThe only thing is will add to this already extended thread comes from a very close friend of mine who has walked the alps all his life (70+) and served in the Swiss army! It has been unfailing for all my training walks.
1. Keep your feet dry.
2. Wear one pair of socks - my favorite are Dahlgren with alpaca.
3. NEVER take off your boots until the day is done.
4. Wash your feet with water as cold as you can stand it when you arrive.
Buen camino
Hi! My husband and I walked the Camino Frnacés last May and neither one of us had a single blister. We made sure our hiking shoes fit properly ( a full extra size), and used sock liners under our smartwool socks. When I took off my shoes on arrival, the outer socks were always damp, but my feet were dry! Dry feet, no blisters. Good luck and buen camino!
hi all, i just wondered if there is any way to walk the camino and NOT GET BLISTERS.
i have just completed a 50km walk on friday as a fundraiser in australia and i am covered in blisters. I had the stamina for the walk but the blisters, especially around the outside of the heals were really painful and hindered my enjoyment. i just wonder how i will cope with such a long walk as the Camino.
i have booked to start in sj in September and feel a bit daunted by this.
i would love to hear from anyone who did the walk and did not get blisters.
ps, i am already double socking AND AM ON MY 5TH PAIR OF BOOTS!!
juju
Or visit the website.Highly recommend spending some time reviewing the book, "Fixing Your Feet" - John Vonhof.
Most feet are different but you may find a solution for you there.
If you use the 1000 mile socks, would you still wear sock liners?
Not always. As with most things, it depends on the wearer. I wear Goretex lined mid height Salomon boots with one pair of lightweight socks. My feet love these boots and I'm now on my third pair. Blisters have not been a problem over many spring/summer pilgrimages and other long distance walks. I have, however, dressed the blisters of other walkers wearing non-Goretex lined shoes.If people stopped wearing Goretex lined boots and shoes they'd reduce blisters too.
hi all, i just wondered if there is any way to walk the camino and NOT GET BLISTERS.
i have just completed a 50km walk on friday as a fundraiser in australia and i am covered in blisters. I had the stamina for the walk but the blisters, especially around the outside of the heals were really painful and hindered my enjoyment. i just wonder how i will cope with such a long walk as the Camino.
i have booked to start in sj in September and feel a bit daunted by this.
i would love to hear from anyone who did the walk and did not get blisters.
ps, i am already double socking AND AM ON MY 5TH PAIR OF BOOTS!!
juju
Most likely you will get some blisters. My advice from experience is wear ONLY Smart Wool Socks. Use Body Glide or Vaseoline. The tread through blister for drainage at night is good. I used at the end a old AT Trick of duct tape. Take duct tape and put four or five lengths around your hiking poles so not to carry the whole roll. Use and alcohol wipe to clean heel in AM; cut you a heel cup then glide and wool sock. The tape should last for several days and provides great protection. Also slow down. If you slow down and use precaution the blister will be minimum. Just walk ! It will be the experience of your life and blister will heal.hi all, i just wondered if there is any way to walk the camino and NOT GET BLISTERS.
i have just completed a 50km walk on friday as a fundraiser in australia and i am covered in blisters. I had the stamina for the walk but the blisters, especially around the outside of the heals were really painful and hindered my enjoyment. i just wonder how i will cope with such a long walk as the Camino.
i have booked to start in sj in September and feel a bit daunted by this.
i would love to hear from anyone who did the walk and did not get blisters.
ps, i am already double socking AND AM ON MY 5TH PAIR OF BOOTS!!
juju
And be careful with applying duct tape directly onto your skin : the strong adhesive quality of the tape can pull off some of your epidermis (top layer of your skin), damaging the skin and becoming more susceptible to blistering. Also the glue has chemical components (polyethylene) which are not healthy . . .
Cheers !
Effect of polyethylene particles on human osteoblastic cell growth.
Martínez ME1, Medina S, del Campo MT, García JA, Rodrigo A, Munuera L.
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Abstract
In this study, we have analyzed the direct effect of ultrahigh molecular weight polyethylene (polyethylene) on the osteoblastic cell growth in primary cultures. The cells were cultured from human bone samples obtained during reconstructive joint surgery. When cell cultures reached confluence (4-6 weeks) they were separated into three subcultures. One subculture was without particle addition (plain culture). In the other two subcultures, polyethylene or alumina was added. Two different sizes of particles were used, <80 and <160 microm. The subcultures were incubated until confluence. Proliferation of each subculture was measured by cell counts after 3, 6, 9 and 13 days, and the area under the curve (AUC) was calculated. Polyethylene particles of <160 microm induced a decrease in growth, whereas alumina of the same size did not. Polyethylene and alumina particles of <80 microm induced an inhibition in the osteoblastic cell growth; <80 microm polyethylene induced a higher inhibition than alumina of the same particle size. In conclusion, we have observed a direct effect of polyethylene on osteoblastic cell growth. This study shows that polyethylene may decrease the growth rate of human osteoblastic cells in primary cultures. Smaller particles produce a more marked reduction.
You are right, osteoblastic growth was studied in this particular research; I see it as a sample of interaction between chemical complex molecular bonds and a natural organism [ which could also be ], the human body . .Interesting article. Now I can understand how duct tape can be effective for warts. Study seems to concern osteoblastic growth so concern with polyethylene should be on bone growth not skin integrity although with the New England Journal of Medicine's duct tape/wart article, I can see a possible correlation worth noting.
juju,
You will have lots of advice here, from woollen socks, shoes, foot creams, to Compeed. I hope one of the methods will work for you.
For me, none of them works. So I have to resort to blister management instead of blister prevention. I carry a sewing kit and employ what they say is a Spanish method of running the needle through the blisters with the thread visible on both ends of the blister. The logic is it will prevent additional blister forming around it as additional fluid will have an escape path through the threads. By the 3rd day in camino, I would have no more additional blisters. You do have to put up with the callous with threads, not to worry as they'll will come off eventually.
I know it sound gross and it's not for the faint of heart, but it works for me. Still, if other methods, all the better.
I agree. It is a great article, and can be found here now that @JohnnieWalker's original post is more difficult to find at the start of this thread.Thanks Iver.
The article on blister prevention from 'Podiatry Today' is the best I have seen, even though it is now quite old (2002).
hi all, i just wondered if there is any way to walk the camino and NOT GET BLISTERS.
i have just completed a 50km walk on friday as a fundraiser in australia and i am covered in blisters. I had the stamina for the walk but the blisters, especially around the outside of the heals were really painful and hindered my enjoyment. i just wonder how i will cope with such a long walk as the Camino.
i have booked to start in sj in September and feel a bit daunted by this.
i would love to hear from anyone who did the walk and did not get blisters.
ps, i am already double socking AND AM ON MY 5TH PAIR OF BOOTS!!
juju
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I wear Merrill Moabs and really love them.
I've been wearing the same on some training hikes and have been pretty happy with them as well. One concern that I have is how they perform in heavy rain and how quickly they dry. Any experience with rain? I live in a high Alpine desert and we aren't getting enough rain to evaluate.
I heard or read someplace about wearing women's knee-high hosiery as a second liner sock and wear them during my daily training routine.
" Second liner sock" or second sock serving as the only liner sock?
I have not developed a blister yet.
Congrats! Buen camino, Noah
hi all, i just wondered if there is any way to walk the camino and NOT GET BLISTERS.
i have just completed a 50km walk on friday as a fundraiser in australia and i am covered in blisters. I had the stamina for the walk but the blisters, especially around the outside of the heals were really painful and hindered my enjoyment. i just wonder how i will cope with such a long walk as the Camino.
i have booked to start in sj in September and feel a bit daunted by this.
i would love to hear from anyone who did the walk and did not get blisters.
ps, i am already double socking AND AM ON MY 5TH PAIR OF BOOTS!!
juju
The only time I EVER got blisters was on an endless slog in a snowstorm in telly boots skiing on a road in Wyoming. Other than that, in all my miles of hiking and walking, it's not been an issue. My shoes are light and roomy. I wear one pair of socks. I hydrate, hydrate and hydrate some more and stretch my feet on breaks, air them out and put them up. There is still time though, I could get some nasties but I will stop the minute I feel a hotspot and take care of it.
I walked from Leon to Santiago, and I had blisters you wouldn't believe, and I was advised by an athletic-type store along the way that blisters are caused by moisture and heat, which boots caused in the July heat. The lady said in the mountains you need boots, but from Leon you need something that gets air to your feet (she is speaking of the hotter months.) I changed to athletic sandals (Tiva's), although I have always been a fan of ankle support, and it got me the rest of the way and three days of walking as a tourist in different places afterwards. Here in the US we have this self-adhesive stuff on a roll (can't think of the exact name at the moment) that is between paper and gauze in texture, so you wrap it around your toe, say, and it sticks to itself to stay secure. As it turns out, that is all I would have needed to use rather than spending a ton of money on the Compeed (spelling?) that they sell along the Camino. Just put it on if you see an area reddening. My daughter wore tennis shoes the whole time and didn't have any blisters.hi all, i just wondered if there is any way to walk the camino and NOT GET BLISTERS.
i have just completed a 50km walk on friday as a fundraiser in australia and i am covered in blisters. I had the stamina for the walk but the blisters, especially around the outside of the heals were really painful and hindered my enjoyment. i just wonder how i will cope with such a long walk as the Camino.
i have booked to start in sj in September and feel a bit daunted by this.
i would love to hear from anyone who did the walk and did not get blisters.
ps, i am already double socking AND AM ON MY 5TH PAIR OF BOOTS!!
juju
Yes. And do not put it directly on your skin. Better to start with moleskin and if needed cover that with duct tape.When people talk about 'duct tape' (prompted tonight by TrishAlexSage's blog) are they talking about a special medicinal type of 'duct tape' - I presume they are not talking about construction-type duct tape?
That's awesome that you came up with such a creative solution! Good for you!Different people get blisters for different reasons.
No one solution will help everybody. There is a forum on "Blister Defence" which might interest you. On that I said:
"There has been much talk on the forum about BLISTERS - the bane in the life of so many pilgrims. This was my 4th camino. On the previous three I needed hospital treatment for severe blistering, which took much of the pleasure from the trek. I have tried all the usual remedies - vaseline, powder, walking socks, massage, etc etc all to no avail.
This year I decided to use panty liners. If you fellows don't know about panty liners, just ask the lady in your life.
I would place the liner on the floor, sticky side UP, then carefully place my foot down onto it, so that it was at the same angle as my toes - and gave me protection along the ball of the big toe, and across the whole sole of my foot just below the toes. Just position it where you usually get blisters.
On occasion I had to buy the extra long liners from chemists in Spain: the same principle applied, and the ends of the liner were simply folded across the top of my foot. I then put on my normal walking socks.
I am not suggesting for one moment that this will cure everyone's problems. Only that they cured mine. So it might be worth a try.
I also limited my walking distances to no more than around 22-24 kms a day - ideally down to 15 kms approx.
If that helps just one of you to avoid blisters, my time has been well spent.
Buen camino! [Without blisters]
hi all, i just wondered if there is any way to walk the camino and NOT GET BLISTERS.
i have just completed a 50km walk on friday as a fundraiser in australia and i am covered in blisters. I had the stamina for the walk but the blisters, especially around the outside of the heals were really painful and hindered my enjoyment. i just wonder how i will cope with such a long walk as the Camino.
i have booked to start in sj in September and feel a bit daunted by this.
i would love to hear from anyone who did the walk and did not get blisters.
ps, i am already double socking AND AM ON MY 5TH PAIR OF BOOTS!!
juju
@croydongirl, the video you recommended shows a great approach, but not one that is easily applied without assistance. If you haven't already spoken to your podiatrist, you might ask if they can recommend products that might be easier to apply in less ideal conditions, rather than the ideal conditions used in the video. For example, I find Fixomull particularly difficult to handle without assistance, and prefer to use a product like Micropore, a hypo-allergenic paper tape, instead.
My other concern is how you think you will know when you need extra blister protection. I know I would not be able to tell, and plan to have my preventative taping in place whenever I walk. If I am using rigid strapping tape, I replace that every day, taking it off in the evening and re-applying it in the morning. Where I use Micropore, I will leave that on for several days.
Hihi all, i just wondered if there is any way to walk the camino and NOT GET BLISTERS.
i have just completed a 50km walk on friday as a fundraiser in australia and i am covered in blisters. I had the stamina for the walk but the blisters, especially around the outside of the heals were really painful and hindered my enjoyment. i just wonder how i will cope with such a long walk as the Camino.
i have booked to start in sj in September and feel a bit daunted by this.
i would love to hear from anyone who did the walk and did not get blisters.
ps, i am already double socking AND AM ON MY 5TH PAIR OF BOOTS!!
juju
Hi
I just completed my Camino from SJPdP and wanted to let you know that I did not get one blister or any other feet problems even though I had previously had blisters on other 1000kms hikes.(Bibblumen) On the Camino I wore Injinji Toe Socks and they are light and fantastic. I also rested every 5kms and took my boots and socks off each time to air my feet and give them a chance to rest. This helps with reduction of swelling and "heat" especially on hot days or when walking over 20 & 30kms in a day. I hope this helps you. Have a great walk. Buen Camino - Helen (Aussie)
ArkBuilder -
I agree with your assessment that Neosporin has been a great salve. However, I have to say "has been".
Over the years, I have found more incidences of users getting a rash in spots they used it. Then, once MRSA came on the scene (Methicillin resistant staph aureus) the data started to paint a picture of Neosporin being a contributor to the problem.
More people are moving to use of colloidal silver gel/cream as it has become available in higher quantity and quality. It is a surface active killer of bacteria and not one to which they can (likely) become resistant.
My personal experience has been excellent but I do some research updating on brands before I purchase and pay close attention to "expiry date" on the shelf item. B
Are you leaving SJPDP on 9th September? There are several of us leaving then too ......
Wow. There is a massive amount of great information here on blisters, but I thought I would still comment.
I have been training for my 9 Sep 14 trek on Camino Frances [ and on to Finisterre and Muxia ] for eight [8] months now.
I wear Merrill Moabs and really love them.
I heard or read someplace about wearing women's knee-high hosiery as a second liner sock and wear them during my daily training routine.
I will be taking several pair even though I have been wearing the same pair for the eight [8] months of training.
Very compressible, durable, and extremely "weightless". Inexpensive.
I have not developed a blister yet.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this topic. It has been very educational.
Noah
PS: I have been using Neosporin +Pain [a small tube] for most of my disinfecting needs for many years now having raised three kids to adulthood. It has been a "miracle salve" and, when cuts occur. minimizes scars. First thing I place in my first-aid kit.
If you are hypothyroidic as I am, betadine can not be used. Thus, the Neosporin!
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Are you leaving SJPDP on 9th September? There are several of us leaving then too ....
I would be interested in how this approach works. I am not a caving expert, but what little I have done suggests that there are places where one could have permanently wet feet, and the specialist neoprene socks cavers use are to minimise the heat loss, much like a wet suit. That is, cavers accept they cannot stop their feet getting wet, and deal with that rather than trying to keep them dry.The manufacturer says that Merrill Moabs are made of fabric that dries quickly. I am also wearing special outer-socks that are made for spelunking so they ARE waterproof socks. This was for added "insurance" in case the manufacturer was mistaken or prevaricating.
Blisters are caused by moisture, friction and heat... so I worked pre-emptively to avoid blisters. Every morning I applied masking tape (yep, masking tape, a secret that a fellow peragrino shared with me) on the spots that tended to get "hot" when walked... I then vaselined my feet. I stopped every 2-3 hours, took off my socks, aired out my feet, reapplied tape and vaseline and put on a dry pair of socks.... soooooo worth it... no blisters, no pain
I enquired after BodyGlide at my local sports store today. The guy didn't have any but showed me another product with a lanolin base which he had used doing ultramarathons. He reckoned not only was it non-greasy and good at preventing chafing but good at healing as well. It seems to me that Vaseline and Vicks have a paraffin base, then there's lanolin, anhydrous lanolin and whatever vegetable base in in BodyGlide. Anyone used the lanolin creams (hydrous and/or anhydrous)?Blister Prevention and Treatment for Hikers
Introduction
No one is immune to blisters. However, blisters are preventable if you understand the conditions that cause them and they will heal faster if you know how to treat them properly. In the following article I begin by explaining what blisters are why they occur. I then discuss techniques to prevent them from occurring, followed by guidelines for treating blisters that will expedite the healing process.
What Causes Blisters?
Blisters can be caused by burns, allergic reactions, and fungal infections. The most common cause of blisters resulting from hiking is friction. When your feet get hot and sweaty, your socks stick to your feet and begin to rub against the inside of your shoes or boots. The skin at the point of friction becomes red and irritated. Lymphatic fluid flows to the friction site gathering between the layers of skin to protect the area like a small balloon, eventually forming a bubble of fluid known as a blister. Blisters can also occur when your socks, boots or shoes get wet from the rain, snow, or a stream crossing.
Blister Prevention
The key to preventing blisters is to eliminate friction. Shoes and boots should be well broken in and you should make an effort to keep your socks as dry as possible by changing them when your feet get hot and sweaty or by taking your shoes or boots off periodically to let your feet and socks dry out when you take a snack break. If this means bringing along one or two extra pairs of socks, it may be well worth a few more ounces of pack weight.
If you expect to do a lot of stream crossings you should consider bringing along a pair of sandal or crocs to wear instead of your boots to keep them dry. Bringing along a pair of camp shoes also gives your boots and socks an opportunity to dry for a longer period of time before you need to put them back on again. Conditions permitting, you may also want to re-evaluate a preference for leather hiking boots. Ultralight hikers who wear lightweight boots, running shoes or even sandals may experience less blisters because their footware drys more quickly when it gets wet. Gore-Tex lined leather boots, on the other hand, can take days to dry out completely.
Other effective ways to reduce friction include applying petroleum jelly to a hot spot or sprinkling foot powder or corn starch on your feet to prevent moisture buildup. If you feel a hot spot forming on your feet, you should stop to inspect it immediately and apply moleskin or tape to prevent it from turning into a blister later in the day. Some hikers also prefer wearing two sock layers, a liner which absorbs moisture and can be changed frequently, and a heaver outer sock. This moves the site of friction between the socks, away from your skin and a sock.
Blister Treatment
Blisters come in different shapes and sizes. The first stage in determining how to treat a blister is to assess it. Broken blisters that are leaking fluid should be disinfected and bandaged. Unbroken blisters that are painful should be pricked with a sterile needle and drained. Small blisters that are not painful should be left alone because the best protection against infection is the blister’s own skin. These will heal by themselves and will be reabsorbed in a few days.
If a blister has broken, it should be cleaned, disinfected and then bandaged. You can disinfect the would by irrigating it with chlorinated water, wiping it with an alcohol swab, or rubbing it with a dab of Purell. If the skin over the blister is ragged and dirty it should be carefully cut off. Otherwise it should be left intact to prevent infection. Before bandaging the wound, an antibiotic oitment should be applied. Research has shown that the application of Neosporin or triple antibiotic gel will kill of infecting bacteria after two applications and accelerate the healing process.
Unbroken blisters that are painful should be drained. This is caused by the build up of fluid in the blister, so removing it will help relieve the pain. First swab the blister with alcohol to disinfect the area. Then, using your fingers, push the fluid to one side of the blister. Prick the side with the fluid using a needle that has been sterilized by alcohol, a lighted match or in boiling water. The needle should prick the blister horizontally at the point where the blister begins to rise above the skin. Leave the skin overlying the blister in place to prevent infection. Apply antibiotic gel to the site of the needle pricks and cover with a bandage. For small blisters, cover the entire blister with an adhesive bandage. For larger blisters cover the entire blister with a porous, plastic-coated gauze pad that will absorb any further drainage and allows the blister to breath and dry out. If the bandages get wet, reapply the antibiotic ointment and redress the blisters. After a few days, the skin under the blister should have healed and you can cut away the remaining dead skin.
Other Folk Remedies
If you hang around long distance hikers and backpackers long enough, someone will suggest using Superglue to help heal a blister or make it possible to keep walking with one. This suggestion is actually a lot less far-fetched than it sounds. Superglue is widely used by surgeons to bond together organs or parts of the body that respond poorly to stitches. It is also effective in closing skin shears like cracked calluses where the sides of a wound must be bonded to accelerate healing.
Superglue can be used to treat blisters by squirting it between top of a popped blister and the skin beneath it. This bonds the roof of the blister to the underlying skin reducing the risk of infection and creating a hardened shell over the blister site. The downside of this technique is that the solvents in the Superglue will hurt like hell when they are applied to the wound. To be on the safe side, make sure that you have sterilized the blister with alcohol before applying Superglue to it.
Tincture of Benzoin is another bonding agent that can be also be used to seal the roof of the blister to the exposed skin underneath. It already contains alcohol, so a separate application is unnecessary.
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