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In 4 lines Joe manages to sum up the complexity of the factors at play in today's Camino. Each one of us has our own desires about what we hope the Camino might be. Perhaps by trying to do the best we can to represent that as we make our way and being kind to those who join us and provide for us is a good way ahead for each of us as individuals. Who knows, it may well have a macro effect overall as well as a micro effect.Spiritual pilgrims rely on commercial opportunities to enjoy the spirit.
Recreational tourists rely on spiritual pilgrims to season their experience.
Success here is envied and hoped to be captured there.
If Heaven is overcrowded, do you want to stay in the other place?
Is this yet another "thing" of many lately, where we say, "I'm glad I got to experience it when...?"I just read this article.
Alerta en el Camino de Santiago francés tras perder la mitad de sus peregrinos en diez años
Mientras Galicia advierte de la masificación, esta ruta histórica ha perdido peso progresivamente ante otras opciones. La Junta de Castilla y León, territorio con más kilómetros del trazado, prepara un plan de choquewww.elconfidencial.com
Here are some points in English:
"That pilgrims abandon the French path, which is the initial one, the most
traveled one, which comes from medieval origins, clearly worries us. It is
being abandoned because of this overcrowding that is caused by the tourist
desire of the institutions, especially Galician ones. "It is the forceful
opinion of Anselmo Reguera, president of the Association of Friends of the
Camino de León. "The Xunta de Galicia and the archbishopric of Santiago have
encouraged that by completing the last hundred kilometers the Compostela be
awarded. This has created an economic gap from Sarria to Santiago to obtain
the Compostela, and that is not pilgrims, they are hikers.
"The thing about one hundred kilometers to obtain the Compostela is not new,
it comes from 1948, but it is also true that this formula has been increasing
in recent years, so that people do not understand the Camino as we understood
it before as a complete route and take a tasting trail, which is the last
hundred kilometers," says José Ignacio Gutiérrez. A reflection shared by the
Camino Francés Federation. "The Xunta de Galicia has appropriated the Camino,
legally, and has carried out a tourist campaign under the pretext of the
Camino. It talks about historically non-existent paths and the popularity has
transferred it to tourist aspects.
I have always, do now and always will say that there is no right or wrong camino, just different ones with different experiences, costs, difficulty, culture, language, etc.
I took particular note of the comment by Sr. Gutierrez: ...people do not understand the Camino as we understood it before as a complete route..." I can't contest that in the sense that even for us, the camino of today has indeed changed in some ways dramatically from our first camino. And I know that at least for us, we have been seeking lesser walked paths in recent years, even though we always make a point of visiting one of the places on the Frances we hold so dear from our first camino.
Indeed, those of us above 30 have all “managed” without cell phones. And as a ski patroller (and EMT), yes one can stabilize an ankle* and get someone out of a “backwoods” area (which describes very little of the Camino) without an ambulance. But while there are certainly downsides to having a cell phone turned on at all times, I have to admit I can’t really see the downside of having a cell phone to turn on for emergencies, or because you want to share a particular experience with a family member at night.As a point of order I managed without a cell phone for at least 54 years and have yet to establish what exactly is the benefit of having one now. And if I’m careless enough to break my ankle on some backwoods trail I’d frankly be astonished if a taxi was the solution.
There was a “Welcome Certificate” that did this but I don’t think they are routinely used, even if the person checks off “non-religious.” At least, I got a Compostela in December even though I was expecting the Welcome Certificate.People do the Camino for many reasons. There are hikers. There are people seeking solitude after a trauma. There are tourists. Sello seekers. People seeking something to brag about. People who think there some sort of psychic energy in the physical path. And more.
There are also pilgrims in the traditional sense. If I were a devout Roman Catholic, I would probably feel that the cathedral should reserve the compostela for those folks, with appropriate requirements being something greater than a hundred kilometers.
As a person in general, I’d suggest the other certificate state the distance and the motivation. But since I didn’t even bother to wait for either certificate, maybe I don’t have a right to make the suggestion.
At least on the CF in the high season there is almost always someone nearby with a cell phone so it can certainly be done without one. It is a choice.Indeed, those of us above 30 have all “managed” without cell phones. And as a ski patroller (and EMT), yes one can stabilize an ankle* and get someone out of a “backwoods” area (which describes very little of the Camino) without an ambulance. But while there are certainly downsides to having a cell phone turned on at all times, I have to admit I can’t really see the downside of having a cell phone to turn on for emergencies, or because you want to share a particular experience with a family member at night.
*Also, injuries are not necessarily the result of “carelessness.”
One of the forum members who volunteers in the Pilgrim's Office (I can't remember who it was) said that the "Welcome Certificate" is being phased out.There was a “Welcome Certificate” that did this but I don’t think they are routinely used, even if the person checks off “non-religious.” At least, I got a Compostela in December even though I was expecting the Welcome Certificate.
Just for clarification based on information from recent hospitaleros and recent pilgrims: There appear to be now, in 2024, only two certificates that pilgrim can request and receive: The Compostela and the Distance Certificate. Pilgrims do indicate their motivation when they apply online, together with their age and their profession and other personal data, but none of this appears on either certificate nor does it have any influence on the kind of certificate that they receive. This is different from earlier times a few years back.I’d suggest the other certificate state the distance and the motivation. But since I didn’t even bother to wait for either certificate, maybe I don’t have a right to make the suggestion.
I read that as a very questionable suggestion that if these "excursionists" had not been encouraged to start from Sarria by the 100km rule then they would have chosen instead to begin their journey somewhere further back on the Camino Frances. Two objections to that spring immediately to my mind. Firstly what is the evidence that they would have chosen to walk any part of a Camino if a short and easy option had not been offered to them? And secondly the assumption that these people would have automatically gravitated towards the Camino Frances is outdated as people increasingly choose other routes like the Portugues.OK, so there is massification after Sarria and these are not the right minded pilgrims. What does this have to do with the pilgrims who walk through the region of Leon?
I disagree. Are drivers the people responsible for maintaining the highway, or deciding which way the road goes? PIlgrims, business owners, and the people who live along the Way are all heirs to a thousand-year-old pathway full of culture, tradition, artwork and stories. They all have a part to play in maintaining the trail and all it entails. I agree that "somebody ought to..." is short-sighted thinking by people who don't know what they're talking about. This trail was here a long time before we arrived. It's up to us --- not just the people undertaking the camino -- to keep it in shape for the next gang to come along.As a point of order I managed without a cell phone for at least 54 years and have yet to establish what exactly is the benefit of having one now. And if I’m careless enough to break my ankle on some backwoods trail I’d frankly be astonished if a taxi was the solution.
And, and I appreciate I’m pushing the forums boundaries here but, wtf has a business owner’s commercial decisions on where they locate their enterprise to do with Camino? “If I build it they will divert pilgrims my way”?
I get seriously exercised by the concepts that the Camino should, the “authorities” should, they “the amorphous unknown all powerful someone” should. The only, one and only, person who has any responsibility for anything on Camino is the individual that undertakes it.
Well, things are different now. People are walking the Portuguese for several reasons. It is shorter for one than starting in SJPDP. It is also easier to get to Porto,. It does walk through a beautiful landscape (or so I have heard since I have not walked that way myself.) Other routes also have beautiful landscapes and while I love the CF, some people want more of the ocean or the mountains...
Also after Covid, more people do want private rooms and in general just seem less satisfied with a "place to sleep" which may not include a private room, sheets, blankets, towels and a private bathroom. They want the certainty of a reservation. It is sometimes hard for me personally to hear that pilgrims are not grateful for what is offered, but I can only police myself and not everyone else.
I just took a group of university students on the last 115 km of the CF. It rained a lot. We stayed in Xunta albergues which they seemed to like at the time, but their post-Camino reflections reveal the dissatisfaction of not having their own space and privacy so I expect if they walked again they might not choose albergues despite the thriftiness of communal living.
Yes!I agree completely, 100%, absolutely. I am verging on what cannot be written about on here, but - a pilgrimage is a process, an internal/external process, it isn't something that can be Googled to know the answer, or be done in a hiking holiday way ... a pilgrimage is an ancient deep internal process .. a process that commonly doesn't belong to this modern world, the world that believes you can just take something off a shelf, buy it, and experience it ...
Traditionally pilgrimage is religious and, I say again, it is a process, a mainly internal process - a process that is killed dead by using phones to stay in contact with 'home' and take useless photographs, and earbud music and getting online in the evening ..
It is very like this, pilgrimage ... if anyone goes into a retreat, monastic Christian or Buddhist or Yogic, the first thing that happens is that they take away your phones, your tablets, your earbud music, your fiction books - as the monks know that you cannot be there and process through the retreat if you are not there with only you and your mind and whatever thoughts and connection that comes.
This is the ideal of pilgrimage .. everything else is bucket list hiking. So I understand exactly what they are saying, I have been saying it for twenty years now, sadly watching the holiday bucket list hike take over from the pilgrimage that it is supposed to be.
This isn't an attack on hikers - I know they enjoy their holidays, nor is it a call to join a religion - it is about being human, the deeper questions; the riddle of existence, of what we are, why we are, even where we are, that which wakes us at three in the morning, questioning one's life, the why of it ... and if a human enters the Camino as a pilgrim and these are uppermost in their minds ... it can lead to something quite wonderful.
As expected: It is March, the Leon Camino association have published their data and analysis for the previous year, have given a press conference, and the first headlines have been written. Far from losing pilgrims, the total number increased in 2023 by 20% compared to the previous year and stands at 39,847 - similar to 10 years ago.I am confident that 2022 was still an exception and not a trend.
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