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Thanks for the heads up.Hey, I know there are a million threads on the topic, but on a cell and need to post this warning. The "hippie place " in grañon, not the one in the church is full of bed bugs. The outbreak is severe and all who stay seem to be bitten extremely badly. Many other albergues refuse to accept pilgrims who overnight here on a continuous basis.
Please be aware
My pack, my sheet, and my pillow/pillowcase. I take DEET for the night if I think it is warranted.Other than spraying your sleeping bag with permethrin what other prevention techniques are you applying? thanks again.
Other than spraying your sleeping bag with permethrin what other prevention techniques are you applying? thanks again.
So you spray all those items with the permithon ahead of time right? ...and what do you mean you 'take' deet for the night? (again thanks soo much for helping on this...bed bugs kind of worry me)My pack, my sheet, and my pillow/pillowcase. I take DEET for the night if I think it is warranted.
I take a 2 oz. bottle of DEET in case I decide to use it at night for bed bugs. Bed bugs go for exposed flesh, so head, hands, and feet that stick out of a sleeping bag are prime targets. I wash off the DEET in the morning.and what do you mean you 'take' deet for the night?
I find that sheet to be too slippery and small so it does not stay in place between the mattress and the human.This time I'm taking Lifesystems Bed bug sheet - has anyone tried these, and are they effective? (Fortunately, I've not had any problems on the camino - when travelling through Turkey and Iran years ago, a different story)
Thanks for the heads up, I think I'll take a Deet spray instead.I find that sheet to be too slippery and small so it does not stay in place between the mattress and the human.
Travelling man, what I brought this year was something mentioned on this forum: a large peice of tule about 60 -80 cm longer and wider than an single bed. that way I cold tuck it in under the mattress to keep it in place. I sprayed it at home before leaving, outdoors, with permytherine. Took a risk with the pillows since the sheet went under them and I did not want to spray my own pillowcase and have this chemical on my face but at least the mattress was covered.Thanks for the heads up, I think I'll take a Deet spray instead.
This time I'm taking Lifesystems Bed bug sheet - has anyone tried these, and are they effective? (Fortunately, I've not had any problems on the camino - when travelling through Turkey and Iran years ago, a different story)
Travelling man, what I brought this year was something mentioned on this forum: a large peice of tule about 60 -80 cm longer and wider than an single bed. that way I cold tuck it in under the mattress to keep it in place. I sprayed it at home before leaving, outdoors, with permytherine. Took a risk with the pillows since the sheet went under them and I did not want to spray my own pillowcase and have this chemical on my face but at least the mattress was covered.
Any fabric store carries tule. Just have them cut it to size. It's a bit bulky, but super light. I shove it in one of those little nylon mesh bags when I pack it up.Where did you find one piece that large? Sounds like a good idea.
Any fabric store carries tule. Just have them cut it to size. It's a bit bulky, but super light. I shove it in one of those little nylon mesh bags when I pack it up.
We were advised to get silk sleeping bag liners to put outside our sleeping bags. Has anyone heard if that is helpful with bed bugs? Also, can you buy permethrin in SJPdP? Can you get DEET there? I've also heard that one should check mattresses (near seams and edges) for signs of beg bugs and then walk away if you notice anything. Any advice on that?Hey, I know there are a million threads on the topic, but on a cell and need to post this warning. The "hippie place " in grañon, not the one in the church is full of bed bugs. The outbreak is severe and all who stay seem to be bitten extremely badly. Many other albergues refuse to accept pilgrims who overnight here on a continuous basis.
Please be aware
There are only 2 albergues: municipal/parish and hippie "Casa de Sonrisas". I stayed in it. It looked like one that easy could have bed bugs and we checked for traces. It was early in the year, so it was still clean. When I think of it - the design of the place would make it extremely difficult to get rid of unwanted creatures. Maybe they let it freeze out in winter?Also, what is the name of the "hippie" place in granon? Thanks again,
Yup, we used the bed bug sheets this summer. No bug problems, so I'll be using it again.This time I'm taking Lifesystems Bed bug sheet - has anyone tried these, and are they effective? (Fortunately, I've not had any problems on the camino - when travelling through Turkey and Iran years ago, a different story)
Yuk! I am so sorry. Goes to,show that the Caminos need a concerted effort and rules. What they are... Perhpas letting us walk in woth shoes and poles but no "soft" gear?We met a pilgrim yesterday who was bedbug bitten in the albergue of Terradillos de Los templarios and we then decided to stay in Bercianos del Real Camino in the albergue of la laguna and were bitten to pieces last night. This is really destroying our camino and I sleep on a big bedbug shee, all my stuff is sprayed and I'm not escaping it.
We just called the hospitalero to tell him and he refused to accept it and said we were wrong. We were all bed bug free and now we're full of them.
I have been hospitalera at Guacelmo. We had a strict protocol to follow. First of all, we showed a large photo of both a bed bug and the result of bites ( usually 3 in a row) . We asked every Pilgrim upon registering, if they had such bites and, if affirmative, gave them a large IKEA bag, full of loads if clean clothes and sent them to a separate shower room, where they were asked to choose suitable clothes from the bag and to put ALL their own clothes in a plastic bag that we gave them. Documents, etc, were kept separate in a zip lock bag. We washed everything at 60 degrees, that often took 2 wash loads, as those European washing machines are so small. The backpack was put in a separate plastic bag and put in the sun for the rest of the day and was left in that bag over night.The hospitaleros at Rabanal were ACE at getting rid of them, anyone here who was hospitalero/a at Gaucelmo who could advise?.
Yup! I'm suggesting that they got bitten in Astorga!@annakappa , you mention pilgrims who ealked in with bug bites had stayed in Astorga. Are you suggesting, int he nicest, kindes waymtjat the got infested in Astorga? I thought it took a few days for bites to show up as I always wondered if I got bitten at the hotel in Santiago or in an albergue. Thanks!
I think the time between being bit and having the reaction can vary quite a bit. It is an allergic type of reaction and everyone responds differently, and people can become sensitized to it. That makes it even harder to know when one was bitten!I thought it took a few days for bites to show up
Rats, I was hoping for an easy answer, thank you.I think the time between being bit and having the reaction can vary quite a bit. It is an allergic type of reaction and everyone responds differently, and people can become sensitized to it. That makes it even harder to know when one was bitten!
@annakappa , you mention pilgrims who ealked in with bug bites had stayed in Astorga. Are you suggesting, int he nicest, kindes waymtjat the got infested in Astorga? I thought it took a few days for bites to show up as I always wondered if I got bitten at the hotel in Santiago or in an albergue. Thanks!
Does anyone have general tips on where to find the Lifesystems bed bug sheet (or something similar) in Spain? I'm just hearing about it, so I can't order online before flying into Bilbao this week. I'll be starting the Camino del Norte from there on Friday. I think I'd prefer the sheet to using permethrin or DEET.
Does anyone have general tips on where to find the Lifesystems bed bug sheet (or something similar) in Spain? I'm just hearing about it, so I can't order online before flying into Bilbao this week. I'll be starting the Camino del Norte from there on Friday. I think I'd prefer the sheet to using permethrin or DEET.
@annakappa , you mention pilgrims who ealked in with bug bites had stayed in Astorga. Are you suggesting, int he nicest, kindes waymtjat the got infested in Astorga? I thought it took a few days for bites to show up as I always wondered if I got bitten at the hotel in Santiago or in an albergue. Thanks!
Yup! I'm suggesting that they got bitten in Astorga!
The coincidence was too great, as nearly all the bed bug victims had ( over the course of the two weeks we were on duty) stayed in the same Albergue in Astorga!I think the time between being bit and having the reaction can vary quite a bit. It is an allergic type of reaction and everyone responds differently, and people can become sensitized to it. That makes it even harder to know when one was bitten!
Oh - I am not arguing with your conclusion at all! I was just pointing out that there is variability in the time for symptoms to show up, so one can't always know for sure. I've been bitten twice - the first time, the itching emerged over a period of a day or two, after I had seen 2 bedbugs (and moved rooms), so I was confident where I was bitten. The second time, I didn't actually SEE the bugs so I can only make an educated guess. My plan now is to put my pack in a plastic bag at night, then isolate all my night things in an inner bag while I walk the next day, and hope that any itching will start that day and warn me to decontaminate before using the night things. It is useful to be a "reactor" so I know if I've been exposed. The people who don't react won't realize they might be carrying bedbugs.The coincidence was too great
What a BRILLIANT idea. One bag formwhat has not been exposed, one for night-evening time gear. I started seeing bites after getting hime, so a good 48 hours after leaving the hotel in Santiago. I was a ver unhappy and concerned camper thinking I mau have brought the beats home. Since the I have changed clothes at the airport, send clothes for professional cleaning and frozen the reat of the gear in a plastic bag for over 3 weeks.Oh - I am not arguing with your conclusion at all! I was just pointing out that there is variability in the time for symptoms to show up, so one can't always know for sure. I've been bitten twice - the first time, the itching emerged over a period of a day or two, after I had seen 2 bedbugs (and moved rooms), so I was confident where I was bitten. The second time, I didn't actually SEE the bugs so I can only make an educated guess. My plan now is to put my pack in a plastic bag at night, then isolate all my night things in an inner bag while I walk the next day, and hope that any itching will start that day and warn me to decontaminate before using the night things. It is useful to be a "reactor" so I know if I've been exposed. The people who don't react won't realize they might be carrying bedbugs.
@Gazell , I think someone played a trick on you; this type of mattress cover is only good for acharians. As the label states, not bed bugs. These are the normal mattress covers anyone with allergies, and others, tend to use.I had a bed bug sheet and those little.... got mer anyway, so I was sent to a bed and bedding store, which sells these to the albergues. I bought it in leon and have no idea how to order it online, but at least there's a picture here.maybe you can find it online. I bought a 90cm one for € 24
So when you say the " hippie place" which one are you referring too? Brierly lists two S Juan Bautista, the annex of the church & LaHey, I know there are a million threads on the topic, but on a cell and need to post this warning. The "hippie place " in grañon, not the one in the church is full of bed bugs.
Please be aware
Damned wifi drop out. What I would is a clarification of which place it's. I think there is an answer La casa de Sunrise. Any updates appreciated. Mike
Does anyone have general tips on where to find the Lifesystems bed bug sheet (or something similar) in Spain? I'm just hearing about it, so I can't order online before flying into Bilbao this week. I'll be starting the Camino del Norte from there on Friday. I think I'd prefer the sheet to using permethrin or DEET.
The coincidence was too great, as nearly all the bed bug victims had ( over the course of the two weeks we were on duty) stayed in the same Albergue in Astorga!
I am going to make a spray of essential oils...tea tree, lavender, peppermint. I plan on spraying it faithfully on my bedding and pack. Hopefully it will work!Other than spraying your sleeping bag with permethrin what other prevention techniques are you applying? thanks again.
Wishful thinking and you will cause undue stress to those alergic to those scents/chemicals.I am going to make a spray of essential oils...tea tree, lavender, peppermint. I plan on spraying it faithfully on my bedding and pack. Hopefully it will work!
I was thinking the same. While I think that lavender is a beautiful plant, I really don't like the scent, and would hate to be sleeping near it.Wishful thinking and you will cause undue stress to those alergic to those scents/chemicals.
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