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This is the result of the Caminos' popularity, when the masses are discovering the "cheap and must do it" holiday. The pilgrims' spirit is being pushed aside by this new invasion.[...]In the last few years I have walked three Caminos. Every year people are ruder and ruder.
This is the result of the Caminos' popularity, when the masses are discovering the "cheap and must do it" holiday. The pilgrims' spirit is being pushed aside by this new invasion.
Should we 'fear the walking dead'?Invasion of the camino snatchers.
Should we 'fear the walking dead'?
If you intend to leave the albergue very early (5:30 a.m.), please do not turn on the lights for the entire room and speak in a loud voice. It is disturbing to those who want to sleep until 6:30 a.m. or 7:00 a.m. Please have your backpack packed and ready to go and just slip out quietly. It is courteous and those who would like to get up later would greatly appreciate it.
And there are many that do just slip out, well prepared to ensure minimal disruption to others, and then there are those buffoons, those notice boxes that have to let everybody know they are leaving early. Take a deep breath and just accept that some do not understand the comfort of others!I just returned from the Camino Frances. If you intend to leave the albergue very early (5:30 a.m.), please do not turn on the lights for the entire room and speak in a loud voice. It is disturbing to those who want to sleep until 6:30 a.m. or 7:00 a.m. Please have your backpack packed and ready to go and just slip out quietly. It is courteous and those who would like to get up later would greatly appreciate it.
Beats mirrorsAll albergues should post this on their ceilings visible to everyone ... and the undersides of the 2nd & 3rd deck beds .
In all my days out on the Camino, only twice did I have someone going to be past bedtime/lockout, and both time they were drunk as can be.I wonder do the early risers complain about those who go to bed late and create just as much noise. Is this pay back
Totally agree mate I simply speak to the room and request the early leavers pack before 10pm when the lights go out, some people will always be a bit noisy but at least most will try and do the right thing and it's really only a small inconvenience. The only time I get narky is drunks who come in late and disturb the sleepers.I just returned from the Camino Frances. If you intend to leave the albergue very early (5:30 a.m.), please do not turn on the lights for the entire room and speak in a loud voice. It is disturbing to those who want to sleep until 6:30 a.m. or 7:00 a.m. Please have your backpack packed and ready to go and just slip out quietly. It is courteous and those who would like to get up later would greatly appreciate it.
Well most of the Alburgue I have been staying in the doors open at 630. I leave early as well. So I get up pack my gear and go as quiet as i can. I pay the same and have the same rights as late sleepers. Who btw make the staff nervous as some people are late getting out thus throwing off the schedule. It's futile. Good luck with your endeavors. Or get a room
My thoughts. Oh I am a walker not just a talker.
I walked with a couple who had hearing problems. And could not see well in the dark. After the third night with them I "got hurt and stayed behind". I knew where they were staying and when I arrived in that town I didnt stop at thier albergue. A couple days later I was releaved to recieve an email from them, they took a bus and passed the Meseta completely. I enjoyed the quiet dark mornings after that. Thanks for posting. my last day on the Camino was May 1.I just returned from the Camino Frances. If you intend to leave the albergue very early (5:30 a.m.), please do not turn on the lights for the entire room and speak in a loud voice. It is disturbing to those who want to sleep until 6:30 a.m. or 7:00 a.m. Please have your backpack packed and ready to go and just slip out quietly. It is courteous and those who would like to get up later would greatly appreciate it.
Isn't this a bit harsh? Talking about rights etc..." Your rights end where mine begin " springs to mind.
Like the OP writes : it is about courtesy.
Sorry to all the hospis that I must have made nervous by staying in the albergue till 8 am.
Not to mention those three occasions where I actually stayed until 9 am because we got into a nice conversation....Shame one me
Even the hospitaleros like a little break in their day even if it is at 8 AMI walked with a couple who had hearing problems. And could not see well in the dark. After the third night with them I "got hurt and stayed behind". I knew where they were staying and when I arrived in that town I didnt stop at thier albergue. A couple days later I was releaved to recieve an email from them, they took a bus and passed the Meseta completely. I enjoyed the quiet dark mornings after that. Thanks for posting. my last day on the Camino was May 1.
I think we have just forgotten what it is like to share sleeping quarters with others !
There are parts of the world where people cannot (ie would rather not) sleep on their own in total quiet. Seems unnatural and ...creepy.
Yes. That's what I always did. One night the hospitalera left after diner and left us peregrinos on our own. There's an internal code 22 h is sleeping time, isn't it?? I became the upper bed and the ceiling lamp was practically 30 cm above my head. It turned 10 pm and I switched the lamp off. A young man (23 more or less) who was reading a book on the next upper bed without asking me anything, jumped off his bed and turned the lamp on again! He and other 3 belonged to the same group. My two other friends and I complained he should switch the light off soon. He didn't until 23.30 h! We were so upset and offended by his rude manners. And nobody else supported us to make him switch the light off again. We walked that day almost 40 km (on our 2nd day Camino... we were quite fit!), and reached the albergue also very tired and late. Next morning we woke up like most at 6:30 and I'm sorry but I returned the action... I turned the light on (over his head) to be able to pack my few things in my backpack. The young man, seeing that 8 pilgrims in the same room were packing stuff, jumped off his bed again and turned off the light leaving all of us in the darkness!! We left him alone in the room and went to have breakfast in the kitchen. We left the Albergue one hour later and to our surprise he was still chilling in bed... of course tired after the short night. The earplugs and a sleep mask can be indeed a blessing if you encounter such rude pilgrims on your way!Hahaha!
You can go back to the early 2000's and read the same complaints.
My advice is to take a sleep mask and earplugs.
It isn't going to change.
With some people it's just about me me me unfortunately I would have put the light back on again and said it was Karma coming home to roost and then put it off again and then on again and then.........Yes. That's what I always did. One night the hospitalera left after diner and left us peregrinos on our own. There's an internal code 22 h is sleeping time, isn't it?? I became the upper bed and the ceiling lamp was practically 30 cm above my head. It turned 10 pm and I switched the lamp off. A young man (23 more or less) who was reading a book on the next upper bed without asking me anything, jumped off his bed and turned the lamp on again! He and other 3 belonged to the same group. My two other friends and I complained he should switch the light off soon. He didn't until 23.30 h! We were so upset and offended by his rude manners. And nobody else supported us to make him switch the light off again. We walked that day almost 40 km (on our 2nd day Camino... we were quite fit!), and reached the albergue also very tired and late. Next morning we woke up like most at 6:30 and I'm sorry but I returned the action... I turned the light on (over his head) to be able to pack my few things in my backpack. The young man, seeing that 8 pilgrims in the same room were packing stuff, jumped off his bed again and turned off the light leaving all of us in the darkness!! We left him alone in the room and went to have breakfast in the kitchen. We left the Albergue one hour later and to our surprise he was still chilling in bed... of course tired after the short night. The earplugs and a sleep mask can be indeed a blessing if you encounter such rude pilgrims on your way!
We had a particularly loud and obnoxious man last year on the Camino Frances. I complained in a very pleasant (I hope) way to the hospitalero. His remedy was to call ahead to the next albergue and inform them of the number of people this guy had offended. At the next albergue he was denied a bed, despite there being places available. He had to taxi ahead to find accommodation and thankfully our paths never crossed again. There was a large sigh of relief when the taxi arrived. The funny thing was that it was this guy's second Camino!!!I just returned from the Camino Frances. If you intend to leave the albergue very early (5:30 a.m.), please do not turn on the lights for the entire room and speak in a loud voice. It is disturbing to those who want to sleep until 6:30 a.m. or 7:00 a.m. Please have your backpack packed and ready to go and just slip out quietly. It is courteous and those who would like to get up later would greatly appreciate it.
Hi everyone, Im new here (we'll I've been following the forum for awhile silently reading/learning lots of great things from all you veterans, but this is my first post). I plan on starting my walk April 5 out of SJdP and wondering if I will see a lot of these issues that early in the spring? I ask because it seems Ive learned from this forum to enjoy a more quiet/less congested camino to try and do early spring/late fall as the majority of walkers are there over summer June/July/Aug. Was hoping by going early spring, I'll avoid at least some of the rude pilgrims you all are referring to here (wishful thinking probably lol). I have many more questions, but will post them in appropriate threads
Kari
Jeepers reminds me when I was a small child when I asked (cried more like) my mam why I had to go to bed at 8pm when it was still bright outside and I could hear all the other children outside still playingI like those albergues where the hospitalero/a sets firm rules and enforces them. Everyone inside and lights out at 10pm, no lights on before 6am and no-one leaves before 7am. In the Albergue Emaus in Burgos they tell you those are the conditions, and you have to agree before getting allocated a bed.
It works well during spring and autumn, when daylight hours are shorter and it is not light until after 7am. Not so good during summer when daylight comes very early, and it is still bright at 10pm. Some people need to get up early to avoid the heat of midday, but others find it hard to go to bed and sleep when it is still daylight.
We all have to be tolerant.
Paying the same does not give you the right to be disrespectful and rude.Well most of the Alburgue I have been staying in the doors open at 630. I leave early as well. So I get up pack my gear and go as quiet as i can. I pay the same and have the same rights as late sleepers. Who btw make the staff nervous as some people are late getting out thus throwing off the schedule. It's futile. Good luck with your endeavors. Or get a room
My thoughts. Oh I am a walker not just a talker.
Just be sure Pilgrims in a half dozed state dont think they are in another establishment if they see that red lightI gave my son the latest in headlight for his hunting adventures some yrs ago, it has got a red film to put over the light, in nature for reading maps, perfect for dorms..
look for Petzl lamps, ideally with LEDs and adjustable intensity......
I just returned from the Camino Frances. If you intend to leave the albergue very early (5:30 a.m.), please do not turn on the lights for the entire room and speak in a loud voice. It is disturbing to those who want to sleep until 6:30 a.m. or 7:00 a.m. Please have your backpack packed and ready to go and just slip out quietly. It is courteous and those who would like to get up later would greatly appreciate it.
Hello from New Jersey, USAGood idea, but I think you are "preaching to the choir" here on the forum ;-) Buen Camino, SY
... What is best email address to forward/reach you.
Ernie Arias
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