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It is the primary reason I use a water bladder with a tube that is easily accessible. I can walk all day without food but not without water.I have to remind myself to drink , drink regularly. Some people need to drink more than others . I am one that need a lot of water ‘cause I sweat. It’s important to have a plan and stick close to it. If you wait till you are really thirsty you have lost some already. A good plan can be take three sips every 30 min. If you turn up your bottle and guzzle half a liter your body can’t absorb that much at one time and you’ll just urinate it out . Your body can only absorb 10% of what you drink at any one time . What works for you ??
Which bladder do you use?It is the primary reason I use a water bladder with a tube that is easily accessible. I can walk all day without food but not without water.
The bladder never likes me. I never know how much is left and after a few warm days with untreated water it tastes funky. Just me-I am looking now at how to handle the water question, preparing for my first Camino. I have small bottles, because I never liked the taste out of a bladder but it maybe because the bladder I tried was not the best quality one. I may take a bladder with me just in case, not sure yet.. But I sweat a lot and I will need to ensure I drink enough on the Portuguese in September.
When did drinking water become a process? Weird. Next we will begin seeing IV hydration stations.I have to remind myself to drink , drink regularly. Some people need to drink more than others . I am one that need a lot of water ‘cause I sweat. It’s important to have a plan and stick close to it. If you wait till you are really thirsty you have lost some already. A good plan can be take three sips every 30 min. If you turn up your bottle and guzzle half a liter your body can’t absorb that much at one time and you’ll just urinate it out . Your body can only absorb 10% of what you drink at any one time . What works for you ??
Depends on the time of year and the weather. I would drink 250ml every hour as a minimum on the VDLP in Summer (preferably every 30 minutes) and would carry 3 litres of water as well as extras as there are minimal bars or fountains. I would fluid load before leaving and it was rare to need to pee. I can easily drink 700 ml in one go. On the Levante and Invierno in Feb/Mar I would carry 1 litre. After a coffee and a drink I would be peeing within the hour.A good plan can be take three sips every 30 min. If you turn up your bottle and guzzle half a liter your body can’t absorb that much at one time and you’ll just urinate it out . Your body can only absorb 10% of what you drink at any one time .
Are you sure about that? I didn´t think that was how the human body worked, but I could be wrong.If you turn up your bottle and guzzle half a liter your body can’t absorb that much at one time and you’ll just urinate it out .
I was interested in your comment so tried researching this but cannot find anything verifies your statement.If you turn up your bottle and guzzle half a liter your body can’t absorb that much at one time and you’ll just urinate it out . Your body can only absorb 10% of what you drink at any one time . What works for you ??
I don't go as far as every third drink but I certainly drink half a litre or so of fresh OJ and cafe con leche per day (probably nearer double actually).I always make sure that about every third drink is something that is not water eg gazpacho, soft drink preferably with sugar as this metabolised down to more water, café con leche, juice to get a few more electrolytes in addition to the trail mix I munch on.
I empty it every day and never had any problemns with them.The bladder never likes me. I never know how much is left and after a few warm days with untreated water it tastes funky. Just me-
Why? You do not need them as long as you are drinking and eating OK.Don't forget electrolytes.
Sorry, no idea. Just a general one I bought from a hiking store. I put some velcro on the tube and on my rucksack strap to hold it in place.Which bladder do you use?
Because sometimes, although I personally enjoy the taste of chlorine, it is nice to add some flavor and fizz to the water too. I've had this discussion before, where someone said "why waste your money on electrolytes, just drink orange juice or beer and eat a banana?" Turns out electrolyte tabs are WAY cheaper in the long run... but for me really it is more about just adding some variety.Why? You do not need them as long as you are drinking and eating OK.
I agree. Some people think that we can "camel" our water, but we are not camels and even if we were, camels store fat, not water in their humps.you turn up your bottle and guzzle half a liter your body can’t absorb that much at one time and you’ll just urinate it out .
Not an expert, but yes, if you take in more liquid than your body can absorb/use you will urinate it out.Are you sure about that? I didn´t think that was how the human body worked, but I could be wrong.
The body can absorb about 1/4 cup (60 ml) in 15 minutes, so several sips every 15 minutes will do it
Of course! Being thirsty is how the system works. The body can surely deal with 3% dehydration, however that might be measured.If you are thirsty you are already about 3% dehydrated
It wasn't me this time, right?A report to the mods caught my attention.
On routes like the Francés, the Norte or the Portugués, there are plenty of water sources along the way where you can refill either or refresh (a different matter on southern routes such as the VdlP, the Lana or the Mozarabe). A much greater danger is overexposure to the sun. This will exacerbate dehydration and cause damage to the skin and body generally. People from temperate reasons think the way to cope with heat is remove clothing. Desert dwellers regard this as madness and Australians also think it is pretty daft. Protect yourself against the sun with light, loose clothing including and especially a hat. Remember you can drink like a fish and still get heatstroke.I have to remind myself to drink , drink regularly. Some people need to drink more than others . I am one that need a lot of water ‘cause I sweat. It’s important to have a plan and stick close to it. If you wait till you are really thirsty you have lost some already. A good plan can be take three sips every 30 min. If you turn up your bottle and guzzle half a liter your body can’t absorb that much at one time and you’ll just urinate it out . Your body can only absorb 10% of what you drink at any one time . What works for you ??
I squeeze half a lime or lemon into my water bottle to improve the taste (I don´t like water). I suspect that if I added a tea spoonful of salt or bicarbonate of soda and a dessert spoonful of sugar, I´d have a fairly good and cheap substitute for hydrolite tablets but if I am wrong here, feel free to rubbish my claim.Because sometimes, although I personally enjoy the taste of chlorine, it is nice to add some flavor and fizz to the water too. I've had this discussion before, where someone said "why waste your money on electrolytes, just drink orange juice or beer and eat a banana?" Turns out electrolyte tabs are WAY cheaper in the long run... but for me really it is more about just adding some variety.
Sounds like some effort. Why do the homemade thing when someone else has already done it for you? It would be cheaper and more convenient to just buy it as it is already made.I squeeze half a lime or lemon into my water bottle to improve the taste (I don´t like water). I suspect that if I added a tea spoonful of salt or bicarbonate of soda and a dessert spoonful of sugar, I´d have a fairly good and cheap substitute for hydrolite tablets but if I am wrong here, feel free to rubbish my claim.
Not sure about cheaper. But, yeah, it is an effort, which is why I don´t actually do it. I don´t like hydrolite tablets because they give me an aftertaste, I suspect they use artificial sweeteners and anyway for most normal activities they are redundant.Sounds like some effort. Why do the homemade thing when someone else has already done it for you? It would be cheaper and more convenient to just buy it as it is already made.
???Some people do need to properly flush their bladders
well as an example, my mother was informed by a health professional to drink a lot in one go???
What does this mean?
How does one properly flush their bladder?
I am a fan of sparkling water myself. You might this article interesting:Because of the salt in it, it gives me the electrolytes I need. I always feel great after that. I have yet to have a sparkling water here in a coffee shop that is not salty.
I carried a Grayl ( https://thegrayl.com ) and had no ill effects refilling from irrigation ditches. No straws or tubes. I suspect there are other brands of similar, but I don’t know.I don't drink enough and have suffered for it with heat injuries even on the Camino. I don't like straws or tubes as with a Camelback (a weird thing, I know) and prefer to sip from a cup or bottle. I carry a small bottle on my pack strap with a Chums bottle carrier and refill it often or change it if I run out if water before.
I have always heard that if you don’t pee every hour or so you are not drinking enough to clear bladder/kidneysI'm one of those people who tends to drink a fair amount in one go, rather than frequently taking small sips. I haven't suffered from dehydration yet, although most of my Camino walking has been in the summer months. Maybe I do need to pee more, because my body is not absorbing every drop. Not so much more that I havent been able to hold it in until bars or albergues. On the other hand, I've also heard that if you are not peeing, that isn't a very good sign of being well hydrated. So long as my urine is light and not dark, I figure I'm doing okay as far as being hydrated.
Every hour seems pretty excessive to me! Most normal healthy people pee about 6 - 7 times per day.I have always heard that if you don’t pee every hour or so you are not drinking enough to clear bladder/kidneys
3% is tolerable and is mild dehydration at most and easily remedied with oral fluids. Nowhere near hospital level. The danger is when oral input is insufficient. 10% will score you a hospital admission.Of course! Being thirsty is how the system works. The body can surely deal with 3% dehydration, however that might be measured.
There is a lot of questionable pseudoscience about hydration in the media and online discussions, including this forum.
Quite doable on the CF but other caminos can have long distances without any recourse to refreshment, so you are obliged to carry your own water, or suffer the consequences. However, I have twice suffered dehydration on the CF so it can happen anywhere.I don’t like carrying much water because it’s heavy so I stopped a few times each day to have an Aquarius hydration drink. Buying something meant I could sit somewhere cool and use the cafe’s bathroom.
Doing this I never had to carry more than about 700ml of water except on those couple of days on the Frances when there are long stretches without stores. And I never felt dehydrated.
Keep plugging away Damien!It wasn't me this time, right?
Same here!It is the primary reason I use a water bladder with a tube that is easily accessible. I can walk all day without food but not without water.
Thank you for this, that table is interesting. The fact that the participants were sweating out 1.2 liters of water on average per hour in a hot dry environment ( potentially comparable to Spain at present ?) rather suggests that our bodies are capable of absorbing considerably more water per hour than others have suggested above.3% is tolerable and is mild dehydration at most and easily remedied with oral fluids. Nowhere near hospital level. The danger is when oral input is insufficient. 10% will score you a hospital admission.
Maintenance for my weight is 125ml/hr and that is at rest.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK236237/table/ttt00009/?report=objectonly is an interesting wee table looking at sweat rates admittedly in trained people over several hours doing 5.6km per hour. A bit faster than your average pilgrim but nowhere near race walking.
But the observation that being in a hot-wet environment roughly doubles your sweat output and a hot-dry environment doubles it again is what is relevant.
Really relevant for people walking in the southern parts of Spain.
Most people notice sweat in the hot wet areas but underestimate their fluid losses in the hot dry areas because a lot of it evaporates.
Take home message is that if you feel thirst you must drink. And if it is hot and dry expect your fluid losses to be more than you think.
How much you carry in fluids is very much route dependent but there are certainly routes where it is safer to expect to carry more.
And if you are taking NSAIDs you really need to be proactive about fluids.
And if a human bladder contains roughly 500 ml and kidneys make 100-125ml urine per hour then you would expect to pee at least every 4-5 hours or so if you are keeping up with your bodies needs.
If you have a quality bladder like one from Osprey (IMO) you can fill it and put in a couple table spoons of lemon juice. Set it sit for a couple of hours or even over night in the fridge. Drain, rinse, and you should have dispelled any of the odd plastic taste. This worked for me and I hate odd tasting water.I am looking now at how to handle the water question, preparing for my first Camino. I have small bottles, because I never liked the taste out of a bladder but it maybe because the bladder I tried was not the best quality one. I may take a bladder with me just in case, not sure yet.. But I sweat a lot and I will need to ensure I drink enough on the Portuguese in September.
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