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Doubts about shoes/boots with orthotics

Novos

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September 2016
Hello,

I attend to do the camino frances in September.
I got my new orthodics (has no experience before) and been wearing them in the last week or two.
I played football the other day and and i already got blisters.
I dont know if it's because the orthodics material or just bad socks (I think it's mostly cotton).

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I'm having doubts about should i use shoes or boots for the camino during September-October.

Boots would be good because they hold the leg well, but i'm not sure how good will it be to put the orthodics inside while wearing liner and merino sock- would be a mess.

Shoes would be good because they're probably more airy and lighter, but there's always a chance to get a sprain.

What do you think?

Thanks,

Amit.
 
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Hi Novos,

I can only speak from my experience with my custom made insoles. I always take my most used shoes and walking boots with me when getting new ones at my specialist.
Do not know where you live but here in Belgium the health insurance pays you an amount back every two years when the insoles are prescribed by a specialist in orthopedy.
So when in doubt please go and see a specialist/ doctor to get some detailed advice.
And of course the boots / shoes you buy should have insloe that can be removed so yours can be put in.
Lowas has this feature ans has my favourite brand Hanwag.
 
My wife wears orthotics with her boots and has for all six long distance walks she has done.

In each case she removed the boot liner and replaced it with the orthotics.

However she has at times made minor modifications by inserting small pieces of insole underneath the orthotics. It is a trial and error thing and I would suggest you might need to do the same before you find the right solution
 
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Would do you think, with the current situation, should i use boots or shoes?

Thanks.
 
I would use whatever you feel comfortable in.

My wife wears light weight mid cut boots because she has weak ankles.

Whatever you decide, good thick soles are most important - compensates for the paved sections and cobble stone streets in town
 
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Like others who wear orthotics I always take out the insole before trying the shoe or boot on with my orthotic in it. It takes a lot of experimentation and patience.

But I have an unrelated comment. I can't tell from the picture, but if your orthotics are hard plastic or some other inflexible material, you may find that they give you bad pain. A hard orthotic just magnifies the force of your foot strike and day after day that adds up. I changed to silicone orthotics about 5 years ago and it has made all the difference. Good luck with this? Laurie
 
Well, as you can see, the lower part of the orthodics (painted in pink and black) is hard but a bit flexible.
I was told by the doctor that they're good for hiking. He's a marathonist. I hope he's right.
I dont have much choices left anyway, since there's no way i'd do the camino with no orthodics. After a few days of walking my arch would collapse.
 
Well, as you can see, the lower part of the orthodics (painted in pink and black) is hard but a bit flexible.
I was told by the doctor that they're good for hiking. He's a marathonist. I hope he's right.
I dont have much choices left anyway, since there's no way i'd do the camino with no orthodics. After a few days of walking my arch would collapse.
I feel your pain. My feet are the same. But it might be worth checking about the silicone. I have had absolutely no foot pain on the camino sonce I switched. Running one marathon is a lot different than walking more than half a marathon every day for a month. But my orthotics were hard plastic. Yours sound better than that. Good luck and Buen camino.
 
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I have both hiking shoes and boots.
Both from the same manufacturer.
My favourite is the one that currently has my only set of orthotics in.
Regards
Gerard
 
Take your new orthotics to the equipment store that has hiking boots. Try them in a pair - you may need to go to a slightly larger size - and see how it fits. The manufacturer's insoles are almost always easily removable right in the store.
The issue of shoes or boots depends on where you plan to walk. Many people on the Spanish routes are happy with hiking shoes. Other places you will probably want boots.
 
I have custom made orthotics and wore them last year. They are semi flexible. No blisters. I did however wear them a lot prior to the Camino to make sure I was used to all and that it was comfy. You still have plenty time to try all. In the beginning it felt a bit thick by my toes so they thinned that part a bit. So maybe it are your socks that caused the blisters....or the shoes you have. I do remove the original insoles from shoes. Try some real good socks. It's worth the $ . I have Thorlo medium thick hiking socks.
 
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I finished my Camino Frances 3 weeks ago and my feet are still sore. I walked from SJPDP to Santiago. I was not an experienced long distance walker - I'm a city boy with lily-white feet. I trained for a full year before starting my Camino. After 2 months training in hiking sneakers, I developed plantar fasciitis in my left foot. Orthotics were prescribed. My left ankle is weak so a wedge corrected the weird structural angle and the resulting constant strain to my left foot. By the time I started on my Camino, my PF was well in obeyance. BUT after a couple of weeks walking my feet became extremely sore each day - what a surprise, I hear you say. My right foot has a matching benign orthotic made of the same material as the left one. From the beginning, I had removed the original inner soles from the boots I bought to support my bad ankle. The orthotic material is extremely hard - carbon fibre. I wore one pair of very comfortable hiking socks, no blisters at all.

My right foot became very sore - worse than the supposedly bad foot, then gradually the left foot became more sore than the right! But it was never the PF pain, which had been extreme and debilitating, I would have had to stop walking. After about 3 weeks I decided to experiment because I wondered if I was favouring the right foot and taking the brunt with my left foot. I bought a Scholls gel shock absorber inner sole and used it in my right boot only. My left foot quickly became much less sore! After about a week, both feet improved. By Santiago, I had been walking with this 'odd couple' of inner soles for more than 10 days. Still much soreness but less. I never used painkillers because I wanted to pay attention to what was happening.

Of course, with all the walking, my legs became MUCH stronger and I lost weight, so the whole picture changed and I had to allow for a differing set of circumstances. It seemed to me that foot strike became a major issue. Always a contributing factor, of course. I'm thinking of walking 400kms of the Via Francigena next year, but if I do I will try to find boots that fit as wonderfully as the boots I've been wearing for over a year, BUT which also have some kind of shock-absorbing structures built in. On the Camino you're walking on pavement and very hard surfaces almost half the time and that surface gets to feel harder and harder every day.

Some people on this forum seem to regard blisters as being 'part of the experience' and so concentrate on a solution/solutions after the fact instead of prevention. As a result of research and experimentation, I didn't expect blisters and didn't get any. Blisters would be a colossal distraction and would compound any problem, I'm very sure. Some people seem to regard the Camino as some kind of penance or ordeal which is to be 'toughed out'. My attitude was and still is: it's difficult enough why make it any harder?

My feet and legs became VERY stiff by the end of each day's walking - I haven't done a postmortem with my physiotherapist yet, but I expect that massages would have been a big help in preventing overall soreness buildup. I had planned on having massages on each of the 3 days off I had scheduled into my Camino. Didn't do it. Next time I will absolutely do that and I unreservedly recommend doing so. Extreme stiffness effected my walking style increasingly during the later part of each day and I wouldn't be surprised if this contributed to posture/walking style changes which increased the strain on my feet. Another thought re stiffness: If I had been an experienced distance walker, I suppose my muscles would have been much better at recovering quickly from soreness - waste products might have been expelled by more efficient circulation.

My suggestion: Give yourself PLENTY of time to train and learn about your body. Every body is different. Confer with experts along the way as you train. NOTHING you do to prepare will be as hard a grind as the full Camino, but I think that training is essential if you start out with a problem to solve as I did.

Many people I met along the way had walked the Camino in sections over a few years. This is an intelligent approach, I think. Unless you're out to test your will and resilience as I now think I was. It was a fascinating adventure and it was very likely happenstance that I didn't have to learn about 'failure' too.

Buen Camino, - Mike
 
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Wow, thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts.

Such a great community.

In a few more days i'll try wearing boots/shoes with orthodics, will see how it goes.
 
I have trekked in custom and off the shelf - and everything in between - orthotics most of my walking life and I'm over 60 now. The only advice that I would add to all the excellent posts here is that new orthotics do need a breaking in time especially if you have never worn them before. Check out some instructions here. This could be some of the reason behind you getting blisters.

Good luck with your training.
 
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