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Who would be so crazy to bring a first aid kit, if someone else is willing to bring one?
My comment was intended to be lighthearted and mischievous.It is a personal duty to bring at least some first aid items for your personal needs, and at best a full first aid kit. The sense that someone else will always be around to supply you is irresponsible.
That we all will all help each other out is self evident but to count upon others entirely is not very grown up !
Here the weight tyranny is taken to far .....
My comment was intended to be lighthearted and mischievous.
Alien Abduction. Absolutely.On my first Camino in the pyreenes a group of young people were carrying a huge Antennae . They were hoping to get in touch with alians on the way. One of them had it attached to his bag when walking. They were camping and I lost them in a few days.
I have often said, in reply to those who asked about accuracy in "The Way", that I wished I had the wardrobe of Martin Sheen... who walked in blue jeans and nice shirts..... I guess some have watched the movie too often! I am reading about them.
I met a pilgrim who wore and loved his jeans, the via de plata. It was iin may, I've often wondered if more people wear them in fall/winter. I think the biggest hurdle would be drying time, but jeans are made to not be washed everyday.I've watched The Way about 10 times now lol
The one item I'm going to allow myself is a pair of jeans.
They are light weight so I don't see a problem.
I'm 6"2 200 pounds so I'm guessing carrying 15-18 pounds won't be that much of a burden? If I find myself looking to get rid of some weight I'll mail some things to a friend of mine in A Coruna whom I'll be staying with after my Camino.
Not exactly 'crazy', but I remember a wonderful Sicilian character who had a clanging set of pots and other utensils attached to his backpack (and lots of dried home-made pasta on the inside). He'd pick herbs and wild plants along the way, and in the evening would make a huge meal for everyone in the albergue. We all contributed extra ingredients and vino.
Unless they belonged to some sort of very marginal group like the so-called "Old Catholics", they're most likely not "schismatics" as such, so most likely not in 99% of cases ; that priest is simply wrong in his appraisal of the effects of dressing in such garments as my big black woollen pilgrim cape or their traditional habits or what it's actually like in real terms (and remember -- monks are completely used to wearing them all year 'round in the first place, rain or shine) ; there is nothing wrong with carrying all you need to do your own cooking once there's more than one of you ; there is also nothing wrong with carrying a tent.
We've had a few of these traveling groups of uber-conservative "Catholic" priests and/or religious come to our village. They ask to use the church for a Mass, which we always agree to. But when the service starts we realize these fellows are using all their own altar ware, using a mix of languages and liturgics none of us "regular" worshipers has ever seen. We the Parishioners are not welcome to help set up the altar or read the scriptures; we are ushered out of the sacristy. and when we go to "pass the peace" to one another we find they've rushed past that part of the service. It's all about them, and the performance they're putting on up there for one another with their backs to us so we cannot see or hear. When we receive communion, we are forced to use their methods -- it is embarrassing and confusing to all of us.
I am not the Church Police, but if you're going to celebrate a Mass in a Catholic church, and you present yourself as a Catholic priest, it is disingenuous to produce something otherwise to the unsuspecting parishioners. We are not experts in which liturgy is legitimate or illegitimate. We shouldn't have to be. The Chicago-based priest who pulled this on us this summer came under some close questioning afterward, and appalled a couple of elderly communicants when he admitted the pope considers him a "heretic!"
Using a local church, altar, utilities, etc. to do your own sorta-Catholic thing is rude and presumptuous in the least, and sacrilege at worst.
Most of the neighbors are sanguine about it. "It's God's business, let him sort them out," Modesto says.
Rebekah's post is a response to two posts (#89 and #90) way back in March: if you read those posts then you may understand the context for Rebekah's remarks.Perhaps this was posted to the wrong thread??
Rebekah's post is a response to two posts (#89 and #90) way back in March: if you read those posts then you may understand the context for Rebekah's remarks.
We've had a few of these traveling groups of uber-conservative "Catholic" priests and/or religious come to our village. They ask to use the church for a Mass, which we always agree to. But when the service starts we realize these fellows are using all their own altar ware, using a mix of languages and liturgics none of us "regular" worshipers has ever seen. We the Parishioners are not welcome to help set up the altar or read the scriptures; we are ushered out of the sacristy. and when we go to "pass the peace" to one another we find they've rushed past that part of the service. It's all about them, and the performance they're putting on up there for one another with their backs to us so we cannot see or hear. When we receive communion, we are forced to use their methods -- it is embarrassing and confusing to all of us.
I am not the Church Police, but if you're going to celebrate a Mass in a Catholic church, and you present yourself as a Catholic priest, it is disingenuous to produce something otherwise to the unsuspecting parishioners. We are not experts in which liturgy is legitimate or illegitimate. We shouldn't have to be. The Chicago-based priest who pulled this on us this summer came under some close questioning afterward, and appalled a couple of elderly communicants when he admitted the pope considers him a "heretic!"
Using a local church, altar, utilities, etc. to do your own sorta-Catholic thing is rude and presumptuous in the least, and sacrilege at worst.
Most of the neighbors are sanguine about it. "It's God's business, let him sort them out," Modesto says.
Did you take a picture?!American girl no taller than 1.5 m/5 ft. Carrying a full size toilet seat strapped to her pack.
A full size toilet seat? At 5 ft. she could have used a smaller one...... and saved some weight. Definitely crazy!American girl no taller than 1.5 m/5 ft. Carrying a full size toilet seat strapped to her pack.
A full size toilet seat? At 5 ft. she could have used a smaller one...... and saved some weight. Definitely crazy!
During busier times, some of the businesses take the seat off their toilet to discourage pilgrims from using it without buying something.Brilliant!! Why? I ask.
That doesn’t make sense, but it doesn’t matter. If I need to use the toilet, I will use it, toilet seat or no. There was only one time I recall that I used the toilet and didn’t buy anything, didn’t even leave a donation. It was at a bar that was so crowded I couldn’t get anywhere near the counter, and I wanted to continue my walk. So, yes, I am guilty on that count.During busier times, some of the businesses take the seat off their toilet to discourage pilgrims from using it without buying something.
American girl no taller than 1.5 m/5 ft. Carrying a full size toilet seat strapped to her pack.
It's my sincere hope that you contact me via 'private' message.We've had a few of these traveling groups of uber-conservative "Catholic" priests and/or religious come to our village. They ask to use the church for a Mass, which we always agree to. But when the service starts we realize these fellows are using all their own altar ware, using a mix of languages and liturgics none of us "regular" worshipers has ever seen. We the Parishioners are not welcome to help set up the altar or read the scriptures; we are ushered out of the sacristy. and when we go to "pass the peace" to one another we find they've rushed past that part of the service. It's all about them, and the performance they're putting on up there for one another with their backs to us so we cannot see or hear. When we receive communion, we are forced to use their methods -- it is embarrassing and confusing to all of us.
I am not the Church Police, but if you're going to celebrate a Mass in a Catholic church, and you present yourself as a Catholic priest, it is disingenuous to produce something otherwise to the unsuspecting parishioners. We are not experts in which liturgy is legitimate or illegitimate. We shouldn't have to be. The Chicago-based priest who pulled this on us this summer came under some close questioning afterward, and appalled a couple of elderly communicants when he admitted the pope considers him a "heretic!"
Using a local church, altar, utilities, etc. to do your own sorta-Catholic thing is rude and presumptuous in the least, and sacrilege at worst.
Most of the neighbors are sanguine about it. "It's God's business, let him sort them out," Modesto says.
We've had a few of these traveling groups of uber-conservative "Catholic" priests and/or religious come to our village. They ask to use the church for a Mass, which we always agree to. But when the service starts we realize these fellows are using all their own altar ware, using a mix of languages and liturgics none of us "regular" worshipers has ever seen. We the Parishioners are not welcome to help set up the altar or read the scriptures; we are ushered out of the sacristy. and when we go to "pass the peace" to one another we find they've rushed past that part of the service. It's all about them, and the performance they're putting on up there for one another with their backs to us so we cannot see or hear. When we receive communion, we are forced to use their methods -- it is embarrassing and confusing to all of us.
I am not the Church Police, but if you're going to celebrate a Mass in a Catholic church, and you present yourself as a Catholic priest, it is disingenuous to produce something otherwise to the unsuspecting parishioners. We are not experts in which liturgy is legitimate or illegitimate. We shouldn't have to be. The Chicago-based priest who pulled this on us this summer came under some close questioning afterward, and appalled a couple of elderly communicants when he admitted the pope considers him a "heretic!"
Using a local church, altar, utilities, etc. to do your own sorta-Catholic thing is rude and presumptuous in the least, and sacrilege at worst.
Most of the neighbors are sanguine about it. "It's God's business, let him sort them out," Modesto says.
I wonder if that came with the Australian girls we met at Zubiri. They had huge amounts of really unsuitable stuff they were transporting on each day. Yes they had huge cosmetic cases. Their main suitcases were the max airline allowance, 32kg. Each. Plus the other stuff. We were flabbergasted, but I guess if you're not actually going to carry it, it doesn't matter?.I saw a beautiful, red, leather vanity- case in the showers. I think it was Puente la Reina....
It was open and crammed FULL of every potion, bottle , jar you can imagine...there was a full bathroom worth in there.
I looked at it with envy
Aliens obviously got them!On my first Camino in the pyreenes a group of young people were carrying a huge Antennae . They were hoping to get in touch with alians on the way. One of them had it attached to his bag when walking. They were camping and I lost them in a few days.
Were they taking requests? ... The Lonely Goatherd perhaps!Supported French Catholic religious pilgrimage. Disabled pilgrims in specially made chariots, hauled by two volunteers, mentally disabled being walked with.
At puente. At Santiago Apostel refugio super coach and two vans arrived and unloaded baggage and wheelchairs then they all started to walk in.
Later on two old men arrived, arm in arm. One sighted and one blind. Supporters gave them two large oddly shaped shoulder bags and in the garden they unpacked and assembled two Alpen Horns and played Auld Lang Syne as
a tune up. Brilliant!!?
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Hey did you meet a girl in Zubiri with a metal brace and a granola bar ...heeeheee it was me . Happy to see you in the mix. If it’s not you my apologiesSaw a guy with an Ikea shopping bag along with his backpack. Turns out he had a kitchen kit with him complete with a cast iron dutch oven.
Dude was built like a solid block of wood and hiked FASTa with all his stuff!
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