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That's where we were going to stay this year, and had to cancel because of the virus. Nikolaus kindly refunded our booking.Day 17: Albergaria-a-Velha to Albergue Moinho Garcia (~13.5km)
A few days ago we saw a sign for this albergue about 1.5km off the camino and it seemed like something not to be missed, so we rearranged our schedule to make sure we could fit it in. And we’re so glad we did!
The walk today was again a lot of asphalt (plus some eucalyptus forest) through non-descript towns, much as it has been since Coimbra. I miss the country roads and all the vineyards, olive groves and especially the fig trees that were so ubiquitous in the days leading up to Coimbra.
But now that we are at this albergue, we get to take a ‘vacation from our camino’, as Wendy described it. The lodging is in the forest at the location of two old water mills, one of which is in our room (the other one being in the dorm room). The stream with a little waterfall which you can swim under runs right through the property. It’s a great place to relax and recharge and I highly recommend it!
I've often seen such fields of sunflowers while walking various Camino routes as I prefer to walk in the autumn. I have wondered why the plants are left like that without the seeds having been harvested. Any ideas?
Finally! Someone has given a first hand report about the hat museum. Makes my day! Glad you had more success than the wild goose chase to the pig park.
I love these old industrial sites, turned museums. They give such interesting insights into how local economies worked in the last century or two. (BTW, @jungleboy, my favorite of all of these places is also in Portugal, on Pico in the Açores. The museu da industria Baleeira is located in an old factory where they first hauled the whales up to land and then proceeded to convert almost every single piece into something useful (for human beings, anyway, like farinha, oil, etc.) All of those processes were done in that one huge building and it is fascinating.)
So, beware, if I ever learn that you are taking a trip to the Açores, I will start to nag about the whale museum! Can you tell I am really missing Portugal?
Albergue Moinho Garcia sounds amazing. I am planning to take 2 days to get from São João de Madeira to Porto staying overnight at the albergue in Grijó, but if the albergue there isn't open (I've emailed but had no reply), then I may have to do SJ to Porto in one long day and would be a day ahead of my schedule (hoping to link up with my brother in Porto so trying to avoid changing dates for my 2 nights there) - so long way of saying if I have to do the long day to Porto, I think I'll use the extra night for Albergue Moinho Garcia - thanks for the recommendation! NB: would you advise phoning ahead to be sure of a dorm bed?
Quanta de Burra has to be one of my favourite albergues from my two caminos. It may be because that is where I met a couple of my best camino amigos- but really the whole welcome and food experience were fantastic.Day 4: Azambuja to Quinta da Burra (past Porto de Muge, ~16.5km)
Roman roads, wild flowers, more tomato fields, our first vineyards and a scorpion (edit: apparently a less exciting crayfish) - it was all happening on the trail today! It was a much nicer walk than yesterday, with less road walking, no industry and a large part of the walk on a dyke next to the river.
I’m quite fascinated by the tomato cultivation of the past two days and especially today. I don’t think I’ve ever seen huge tomato fields like this. Today we saw probably a dozen trucks completely filled to bursting with tomatoes. There are stray tomatoes on the side of the road every few metres, some fresh and others that look like they’ve been there for a while. They’re all shrivelled up and ... hey presto, sun-dried tomatoes!
Quinta da Burra is a great place to break up the long stage to Santarém. It’s a renovated farmhouse and our room is an old horse stable. It’s going to be a fun place to spend the night! Prices are €20/p including breakfast, and donativo for dinner.
Quanta de Burra has to be one of my favourite albergues from my two caminos.
Porto tomorrow!
While in Porto, will you plan to stay at this albergue: https://albergueperegrinosporto.pt? I still recall the warm welcome we received from the owner, Miguel. We were invited to help ourselves to the fresh produce grown in his garden to be included in our supper prepared in the well-equipped kitchen. We then enjoyed a wonderful evening with good company and a playful young cat out in the garden behind the albergue.
We are shocked and saddened to hear about the recent vicious attack on two female pilgrims walking the Caminho Português near Alpriate. If you have not yet heard about the incident, please read the thread started by one of the victims.
Even more upsetting is that the police do not seem at all interested in investigating the case. And another pilgrim has spoken up to say that she was attacked and raped in exactly the same spot four years ago.
To Trish and any other females planning to walk from Lisbon, I strongly suggest that you skip the first stage and start in Vila Franca de Xira instead. Until this criminal is caught, it's just not worth the risk.
I think your advice is good - I will skip stage one - maybe instead, on day 1 take a leisurely walk out to Parque das Nacoes and stay there o/n - then day 2 take the train to Alverca do Ribatejo and walk from there to Vila Franca de Xira and o/n there - that way I get to do a bit of a walk both days, which will gently lull me in to the longer distances once I am back on schedule..... crazy times eh?
I can’t even imagine that at some point in my life I too had appointments, deadlines, places to go..... Lucky you!we need to be back in Lisbon by Oct 6th
They are happy to take cash. No one has ever refused cash when we've tried to pay with it here. They are much more likely to refuse a card, particularly if it's not a Portuguese card.Nick & Wendy - quick question - are albergues, cafes, restaurants etc happy to take cash at the moment or do they prefer card payments (as in UK right now).
Brilliant thanks - will get my euros ordered now!
Yet again, we see what a gifted photographer you are!!
... there could be so many more photographs listed here, too .... breathtaking!
BTW, did you ascertain whether the Valença albergue is open at present. I remember staying there in 2012.
Yay for making it to Spain! Btw, I asked at the tourism center in Pontevedra about the variante espiritual but the boat doesn't seem to go in bad weather (which was the case when I was there a week ago), so something to keep in mind in case you were considering that.
Oh and please add TS - A Casa to your vegan list for when you make it to SdC. Had an epic meal there.
We are the only ones at the albergue in Armenteira
I’m going to miss your updates!! Have a great final day. NB: have you had any problems getting your credentials stamped when in private hostels etc?
only as far as Parque das Naceos so fairly uneventful. My accom doesn’t have a stamp, hence my query
Nick and Wendy, I ‘second’ Trish’s appreciation for your wonderful posts filled with helpful Info.
I’ve just woken up in Lisbon after an epic 2-day journey from down under. I’ll be following a day or two behind Trish (we’re in touch) and using your notes as well. It’s because of you guys that I took the opportunity and came to Portugal to walk my beloved camino.
thanks again. Grace
A bit of everything today on our last day. It was the wackiest weather day of the camino by far, one of those poncho-on, poncho-off days where it alternated throughout the day between beautiful sunn
Hi Nick & Wendy! Hope you are still basking in the triumph of the Covid Camino!! I am having a great time so far. Currently in route to Sernadelo.
I have a quick question, as I am now also planning to break the stage to Porto by staying at Mar Dentro. Do you recall at what point I need to turn off from the Camino? Is it signposted? I think you said it was after Grijo?
Unfortunately that seems to be the case. When I checked yesterday the 10 day rate per 100k pop was rising in both countries, but was around double in the UK (and France and Spain) compared to Portugal.Good luck with your decision. Portugal COVID-19 rates are really starting to rise though - the last two days had officially the second and third most new daily cases since the start of the pandemic (and for all intents and purposes, they were actually first and second, as the official record-holder was an outlier day back in April where I believe cases from previous days were counted in).
Is there any talk of local lockdowns between Lisbon and Porto?Good luck with your decision. Portugal COVID-19 rates are really starting to rise though - the last two days had officially the second and third most new daily cases since the start of the pandemic (and for all intents and purposes, they were actually first and second, as the official record-holder was an outlier day back in April where I believe cases from previous days were counted in).
Is there any talk of local lockdowns between Lisbon and Porto?
Absolutely - thanks. Am pondering!Not that I've seen. The majority of new cases over the last few months have been in greater Lisbon, and just looking at yesterday's numbers, the vast majority came from either greater Lisbon and the Porto + north region. So I don't expect the situation that Spain has at the moment with smaller cities going into local lockdowns to happen in Portugal based on current trends. But as always, things could change!
Thanks. I decided to wait a few days and see what happens (both there and here). My bag is packed and ready to go. I've been looking on gronze, wise pilgrim and booking.com and as you say there seems to be sufficient accommodation options. Stay safe.I can only add that I had similar concerns - also coming from UK - but took a chance and so far, no regrets. Lisbon to Porto is very quiet in terms of Pilgrims, but as you can see from this thread, there is accommodation available and not too expensive. I have walked slightly different stages to Nick & Wendy but had no problems. I’ll do a little summary of where I’ve stayed if it helps? I feel safer here than in the UK right now!
Actually there is also a FABULOUS shoe museum within 150 metres. There is still some shoe manufacturing continuing.Finally! Someone has given a first hand report about the hat museum. Makes my day! Glad you had more success than the wild goose chase to the pig park.
I love these old industrial sites, turned museums. They give such interesting insights into how local economies worked in the last century or two. (BTW, @jungleboy, my favorite of all of these places is also in Portugal, on Pico in the Açores. The museu da industria Baleeira is located in an old factory where they first hauled the whales up to land and then proceeded to convert almost every single piece into something useful (for human beings, anyway, like farinha, oil, etc.) All of those processes were done in that one huge building and it is fascinating.)
So, beware, if I ever learn that you are taking a trip to the Açores, I will start to nag about the whale museum! Can you tell I am really missing Portugal?
Nice hat! I could swear I've seen one that looks just like it somewhere....Actually there is also a FABULOUS shoe museum within 150 metres. There is still some shoe manufacturing continuing.
I bought two hats from the hat museum which were sent to me. They were ‘bespoke’ in that I could specify colour and size AND have a cord/chin strap added for those windy mountain passes. I also acquired a felt hat (the town’s speciality)
I also had an excellent meal in the town, opposite the theatre.
The next day I took the narrow gauge railway to Espinho on the coast for a seafood lunch!View attachment 86057
We also feel blessed to have been able to do it. I'm glad you managed to fit so much in - and just in time!Such great memories!
Sunflowers are a cash crop. Some years, there is a glut and the market collapses. The farmers stop irrigating them and they die.In order to harvest the seeds, the flower has to dry on the stem until head turns brown, the leaves turns yellow, the petals die.
Day 21: Porto to Mosteiro de Vairão (~22km)
Our original plan was to exit Porto via the coastal route and rejoin the central at Rates. But we decided just to do the whole central route instead as we could save a day off our original plan (and we just realised that we need to be back in Lisbon by Oct 6th so saving a day is important), plus it just seemed the easier way to go from the albergue in Porto. We typically don’t mind city exits as much as some others so it just made more sense this way.
The exit from Porto was fine in terms of traffic/roads etc. Once we got more into the country, this was nicer scenery-wise but the cobblestones began and this was hard on Wendy’s feet (she has plantar fasciitis) and I felt a tinge of shin splints coming on. Unfortunately it looks like we’ll have to deal with the cobblestones for at least the next few days.
Staying at the monastery in Vairão was recommended to us yesterday (by the lovely Brazilian hospitalera Natalia in Porto) so we went with it and it was a great choice. It’s a beautiful complex with donativo beds or a double for €25, which we took. We have a nice room and great view overlooking the church. The hospitalera/manager Carla is very friendly and we’ve met some nice other pilgrims here including @camino.ninja and @nick1896!
I just found out about this place today.Just before Fonte Coberta, we had a big surprise when we stumbled upon a donativo campsite run by Nicolau and Maria (who have read this thread and were waiting for us!). We spent about an hour there with them and their French guest Jean, who has made a lovely painted rock garden at the entrance to the camp. They are all free spirits with a positive and beautiful outlook on life and the spirit of the camino runs deeply through all of them. If anyone walking behind us has the chance to spend some time with them and approaches with an open mind it will certainly be an interesting and enriching experience!
Day 3: Vila Franca de Xira to Azambuja (~20km)
We were prepared for an uninspiring stage today based on what we had read, and that turned out to be true. There was a lot of road walking and industrial sections, more so than the first two days, and not much of interest at all. But we were feeling less sore and more energetic than yesterday so we walked in good spirits and we feel lucky and blessed to be on this camino given the events of this year.
At the junction entering Vala do Carregado, we took a right (the camino turns left) and did a six-minute detour to a shaded area with benches on the river (called Parque de Merendas on Google Maps). On a day like this with no other real highlights (except for the tomato patch soon after!), it was well worth it.
The albergue in Azambuja is closed. We are staying at Casa da Rainha which is a lovely place and we got a €7 genius discount on Booking.com, so we’re paying €38.
Weather-wise, it’s starting to heat up. We were lucky on our long first day that the maximum temperature was 27 degrees Celsius. But by the time we got to Azambuja today it was 35 degrees (38 now). It is supposed to hit 37 in each of the next three days but we have short stages planned for two of them and will leave early to arrive at around lunchtime and avoid walking during the hottest part of the day at around 4pm
Thank you! It’s true there’s quite a bit of road walking on the CP and no real single strategy to avoid it, although a lot of this road walking is south of Porto. North of Porto there’s a lot of cobblestone walking (on the central route) but the roads are quieter with less traffic, once you go beyond Porto’s city limits.Great diary! I am really enjoying reading it
I am planning on starting in Porto this spring, just joined this forum and I am trying to find out how much is there a road walking - traffic being a big issue......
As I understand there are sections of the route on roads, wondering if it is possible to avoid it...
Thank you!
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