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Hi, we walked from Santiago to Finisterre and then on to Muxia over 5 days a good few years ago. We got a certificate - a Muxiana I think it was called - and we bussed back to Santiago the following day. It definitely wasn't a Compostela, nor did we expect it to be. We already had one from previous Caminos. It was just a memento of a lovely route.For those who have worked in the Pilgrims office. (asking for a friend)
Someone was refused a Compostela having walked Santiago-Muxia-Fisterra-Santiago.
I thought at first maybe because they started in Santiago.
Would a walk from Muxia-Fisterra-Santiago qualify?
Given it is a walk 'to' Santiago.
Or does the route itself no longer qualify?
Just curious.....
The response at the Pilgrims' Office it seems was something like
walking from Santiago to muxia, fisterra and back to Santiago DOES NOT qualify for a compostela
Me? I’d have thrown a wobbly. If I was that way inclined that is…For those who have worked in the Pilgrims office. (asking for a friend)
Someone was refused a Compostela having walked Santiago-Muxia-Fisterra-Santiago.
I thought at first maybe because they started in Santiago.
Would a walk from Muxia-Fisterra-Santiago qualify?
Given it is a walk 'to' Santiago.
Or does the route itself no longer qualify?
Just curious.....
The response at the Pilgrims' Office it seems was something like
walking from Santiago to muxia, fisterra and back to Santiago DOES NOT qualify for a compostela
Great information. Thanks!I do know that the final 100 km must be on a route officially recognized by the Pilgrim Office authorities (the Cathedral). From experience, I also know the Santiago, Finisterre, Muxia, Santiago "loop" does not count.
When I asked about this one year, a staffer explained to me that it was a lot like marching-in-place, or doing laps around the block. You can walk 100 km, by doing a loop "out there," but unless it measures at least 100km from point-to-point, when the route is stretched out - as if in a straight line - it does not count.
Also, all routes must END at Santiago. There is no provision for a route that starts at Santiago, heads out, then loops back to Santiago. The kilometers spent getting to the farthest point from Santiago, before reversing direction, do not count.
Others have tried this before.
There remain a lot of 100 km +/- points to start at to walk a short but legitimate Camino TO Santiago. Ferrol (Ingles), Sarria (Frances), Tui (Portuguese), Ourense (Sanabres), Monforte de Lemos (Invierno) are among others that people have used over the years to earn the Compostela, while walking a minimal distance.
Indeed, the recently approved Irish Camino is unique in that it calls for walking 25 km in Ireland, before embarking to A Coruña, and continuing to Santiago from there. It was certified as legitimate as there is an ancient and very well-documented route that uses a sailing boat to cross the Atlantic from the south of Ireland to A Coruña. That route combines 25 km on the first segment in Ireland, with a remaining 75 km from A Coruña to Santiago.
Hope this helps,
Tom
This is what has confused me about the Muxia-Finisterre-Santiago or the Finisterre-Muxia-Santiago routes qualifying for a Compostela. If one were on a pilgrimage from either Muxia or Finisterre to Santiago the logical straight line route does not pass through both starting towns. Please forgive me, but the route seems contrived so as to add up to 100km. If I were walking from Finisterre (or Muxia) to Santiago for the purpose of a pilgrimage (in historic times or present day), I would walk the most direct route possible.unless it measures at least 100km from point-to-point, when the route is stretched out - as if in a straight line - it does not count.
In the building of the Pilgrims Office in Santiago is an office of the Galician Tourist board where you can get a credential for your journey to Muxia and Fisterre.Me? I’d have thrown a wobbly. If I was that way inclined that is…
It’s particularly obvious that the leg from Santiago to Muxia doesn’t count as a pilgrimage to Santiago. Even Little Dog can work that out. But the journey from Muxia via Fisterra to Santiago is a pilgrimage to Santiago and exceeds 100km. The Beloved holds a Compostela awarded for that very journey. Seems to me the PO is losing its grip on unreality.
Your amigos might have had better luck running with two credentials. One for the Muxiana and a separate one for the Cycling Proficiency, sorry, Compo-wotsit
Tom, spot on! But according to the PO if you keep schtum about your previous visit to the bones you can get a bouncer for walking from a nice, quiet, little fishing village on the convoluted coast of Galicia.I also know the Santiago, Finisterre, Muxia, Santiago "loop" does not count.
People who walk from Santiago to Finisterre or Muxia can qualify for the Fisterriana or Muxiana certificates. These are guest welcome certificates from each town's tourism authorities. They have no standing with the Cathedral in Santiago and are not Compostelas.In the building of the Pilgrims Office in Santiago is an office of the Galician Tourist board where you can get a credential for your journey to Muxia and Fisterre.
When we got the question at the PO counter, we pointed them tho the Tourist board
Whatever about the particular circumstances of Robo's friend, compostelas have, and are indeed issued to pilgrims walking Muxia/Finesterre/Santiago.In theory, starting at Muxia, walking to Finisterre, and thence to Santiago is more than 100 km - just. But, it is NOT a currently approved CAMINO route. One cannot just walk ANY100 km into Santiago and call it a Camino - eligible for a Compostela. The route must have been officially approved.
If one were to use two separate credencials, one for Santiago to Finisterre, and a second for Finisterre to Muxia to Santiago (over 100 km) and only presented the latter to the Pilgrim Offece, would that qualify? It is not walking in a circle, just walking east over 100 km to Santiago. I had always heard it would.I do know that the final 100 km must be on a route officially recognized by the Pilgrim Office authorities (the Cathedral). From experience, I also know the Santiago, Finisterre, Muxia, Santiago "loop" does not count.
When I asked about this one year, a staffer explained to me that it was a lot like marching-in-place, or doing laps around the block. You can walk 100 km, by doing a loop "out there," but unless it measures at least 100km from point-to-point, when the route is stretched out - as if in a straight line - it does not count.
Also, all routes must END at Santiago. There is no provision for a route that starts at Santiago, heads out, then loops back to Santiago. The kilometers spent getting to the farthest point from Santiago, before reversing direction, do not count.
Others have tried this before.
There remain a lot of 100 km +/- points to start at to walk a short but legitimate Camino TO Santiago. Ferrol (Ingles), Sarria (Frances), Tui (Portuguese), Ourense (Sanabres), Monforte de Lemos (Invierno) are among others that people have used over the years to earn the Compostela, while walking a minimal distance.
Indeed, the recently approved Irish Camino is unique in that it calls for walking 25 km in Ireland, before embarking to A Coruña, and continuing to Santiago from there. It was certified as legitimate as there is an ancient and very well-documented route that uses a sailing boat to cross the Atlantic from the south of Ireland to A Coruña. That route combines 25 km on the first segment in Ireland, with a remaining 75 km from A Coruña to Santiago.
Hope this helps,
Tom
As I posted above the Muxia/Fisterra route is listed as an optional starting point /route on the PO’s own website pre-registration. While leaping to conclusions is not my favourite form of exercise on this subject I’ll conclude that the route is officially recognized and qualifies for a CompostelaIf one were to use two separate credencials, one for Santiago to Finisterre, and a second for Finisterre to Muxia to Santiago (over 100 km) and only presented the latter to the Pilgrim Offece, would that qualify? It is not walking in a circle, just walking east over 100 km to Santiago. I had always heard it would.
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