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Pretty grim that! Some places charge a surcharge sitting outdoors but I assume not in this case. That said I think Spain rates as one of the places LEAST [edited later, to insert that word, which was mistakenly omitted] likely to rip you off certainly from a bar standpoint. And certainly on the Camino. Often it so cheap there not a lot of roomI am on CF right now and just stopped in Os Arroxos Crispeta bar in Trabadelo.
A Spanish pilgrim had exactly the same order as me and he paid 6.50 euro and I was charged 10.00 euro!!! It is not first time on Camino that I've experienced that and people should know which places will cheat you because you are not local.
It is a shame that this is happening.
Buen Camino
When I was flying back from Santander I got chatting with a lad from Granada who works in a Bar in Yorkshire, about just this subject, and he said that Bar people in Spain have to be watched for ripping you off. Also, I noticed in quite a few bars machines that the staff put the cash in, and they automatically dipense the change, so perhaps it is not the bar owners but staff ripping people off, and pocketing the difference.Pretty grim that! Some places charge a surcharge sitting outdoors but I assume not in this case. That said I think Spanish rates as one of the places likely to rip you off certainly from a bar standpoint. And certainly on the Camino. Often it so cheap there not a lot of room
to charge locals less!
Ah thank you. Good insight. I tend to stay in Spain for months at a time, often frequent the same bars, reading my copy of Marca, the daily sport paper, and talk to the barman and the old fellas about football! Neighbourhoods I guess rather than cities. Real Spain I guess not the Camino or big cities. Often become an adopted local I guess and have probably had a fair bit of upside in terms of having my glass topped up, free tapas and the like. I will keep an eye out though! Going Coruna for three weeks next month so will be on the case!!When I was flying back from Santander I got chatting with a lad from Granada who works in a Bar in Yorkshire, about just this subject, and he said that Bar people in Spain have to be watched for ripping you off. Also, I noticed in quite a few bars machines that the staff put the cash in, and they automatically dipense the change, so perhaps it is not the bar owners but staff ripping people off, and pocketing the difference.
On my next trip, I will definitely be asking to see the price list.
Of course, some people who are happy to be ripped off, need not bother.
If a local gets a discount on the price on the price list, thats fine by me, so long as I do not pay more than is on the price list. One is a discount, the other is dishonest.Sure, this happens sometimes.
But why get hot under the collar when a local gets a discount? It's not cheating, it's preferential treatment because you're perceived as the tourist and he's not. You'll be much happier when you let it go.
With regard to bars, not a big fan of a locals getting a discount. If a Spanish person came into my local bar in the UK and got charged more I would be disappointed tbh.If a local gets a discount on the price on the price list, thats fine by me, so long as I do not pay more than is on the price list. One is a discount, the other is dishonest.
It happens in the Lake District, I know because I get such a discount. I also get discounts for being old and for being a studentWith regard to bars, not a big fan of a locals getting a discount. If a Spanish person came into my local bar in
UK and got charged more I would be disappointed tbh.
Ah ok! Not often there but will look for it. Is it just foreigners who get ripped off, or UK folks too! As a southerner I imagine some may take great delight in ripping me off!! I have been palmed off with fake notes a few time and when I lived in India there were all sorts of scams! Got charged for 4 big bags in an Auto once when I only had land luggage. Important thing is to win more than you lose!It happens in the Lake District, I know because I get such a discount. I also get discounts for being old and for being a student
I just feel when I go to the South, which for me starts in Cheshire I am being robbed all the time. A pint in my local is £3.50 ;-)Ah ok! Not often there but will look for it. Is it just foreigners who get ripped off, or UK folks too! As a southerner I imagine some may take great delight in ripping me off!! I have been palmed off with fake notes a few time and when I lived in India there were all sorts of scams! Got charged for 4 big bags in an Auto once when I only had land luggage. Important thing is to win more than you lose!
I live in a place that gets really popular during two weeks in the summer in PortugalIf a local gets a discount on the price on the price list, thats fine by me, so long as I do not pay more than is on the price list. One is a discount, the other is dishonest.
It’s a fine line but I am cool with that….you are a regular and giving lots of business all year round in off peak. Free drinker schemes get a thumbs up from me. It’s more the adhoc stuff.I live in a place that gets really popular during two weeks in the summer in Portugal
During those two weeks the prices increase on the menus but the shopkeepers charge me the "normal" price because I'm a local
There seems to be broad agreement on that.A ‘locals’ discount is not that unusual in UK in the smaller places. I have no problem with it either here or abroad.
I noticed in the first post that it is not clear whether the other customer was a "Spanish pilgrim" or a "local".In a bar, a Spanish pilgrim is far from being considered "a local".
I guess I do on intuition. I tend to frequent cheap end local bars. A glass of wine rarely goes above €2. It may be €1.50 next door but happy to pay more if I like the place or there are some interesting looking characters in. I don’t tend to ask the price although I would do in central BCN or MAD. Leaves me open I guess but happy to roll with that.There seems to be broad agreement on that.
The issue is that in some bars, the person serving may just pluck a figure from this air to charge you, when there is in actually a price list that should be displayed by law, and you should not be charged more than this. The reason that legislators say a price list should be displayed, even though it might be at the end of the bar, and you will need your glasses to read it, is that bar people have been cheating strangers since Santiago was a lad.
Mucho Gracias.la lista de precios por favor.
It can happen and dishonesty is sadly a human trait. For the recird, it's happened to me on an occasion, and I'm Spanish.I am on CF right now and just stopped in Os Arroxos Crispeta bar in Trabadelo.
A Spanish pilgrim had exactly the same order as me and he paid 6.50 euro and I was charged 10.00 euro!!! It is not first time on Camino that I've experienced that and people should know which places will cheat you because you are not local.
It is a shame that this is happening.
Buen Camino
To be honest, the places I frequent , rarely see a a paper bill and often don’t know what the charge is. I just run my card on the machine. The value pops on my phone instantly. Normally I am happy with the charge I see!It can happen and dishonesty is sadly a human trait. For the recird, it's happened to me on an occasion, and I'm Spanish.
In any case, you should always be given the receipt where you will see the breakdown of what you ate and drank. And if you are not given it, then ask for it, it is not rude.
Such good advice here. Let it go! You weren’t cheated, you were charged a different price than what native Spanish speaking people or locals pay. It happens everywhere. You undoubtedly get certain benefits in your own local pubs and restaurants that tourists don’t receive.Sure, this happens sometimes.
But why get hot under the collar when a local gets a discount? It's not cheating, it's preferential treatment because you're perceived as the tourist and he's not. You'll be much happier when you let it go.
el recibo por favor.In any case, you should always be given the receipt where you will see the breakdown of what you ate and drank. And if you are not given it, then ask for it, it is not rude.
not sure what you mean by the places ''i frequent. on the camino'', but i'm pretty sure anywhere you either get the bill/'tique' without asking for it, or you can ask for it. the breakdown should be on the piece of paper.To be honest, the places I frequent , rarely see a a paper bill and often don’t know what the charge is. I just run my card on the machine. The value pops on my phone instantly. Normally I am happy with the charge I see!
Or, you could say, Hola, la lista de precios por favor.Such good advice here. Let it go! You weren’t cheated, you were charged a different price than what native Spanish speaking people or locals pay. It happens everywhere. You undoubtedly get certain benefits in your own local pubs and restaurants that tourists don’t receive.
Rather than hanging on to what was a negative experience for you, focus instead on everything you have reason to be grateful for including what may have been a very good meal for only €10. I know that I don’t have enough fingers on both hands to count my daily blessings and things I am grateful for when being able to walk the Camino. Going forward, and you still have a long way to Santiago, think about all the tiny to large things we all have to be grateful for because we have this amazing opportunity to be on The Way. Look at your glass as half full, not half empty and marvel at where you are at this moment. Buen Camino!
A price is a price. That's why there are prices on menus and such. I felt cheated, and it s not about the money!In a bar, a Spanish pilgrim is far from being considered "a local".
Absolutely. TBH, telling you to get over it and count your blessings is rather insensitive and condescending.A price is a price. That's why there are prices on menus and such. I felt cheated, and it s not about the money!
I hear you, however... I have a business of my own and would never do that to any of my guests and non locals are 99% of them. It is just not ok. "Count your blessings", you can use that on absolutely everything. You are totaly missing the point and whatever you call it, it was cheating! End of story.Absolutely. TBH, telling you to get over it and count your blessings is rather insensitive and condescending.
Possibly read my reply againI hear you, however... I have a business of my own and would never do that to any of my guests and non locals are 99% of them. It is just not ok. "Count your blessings", you can use that on absolutely everything. You are totaly missing the point and whatever you call it, it was cheating! End of story.
HahahahahsPossibly read my reply again
It's not cheating. A few countries and cities have higher prices for tourists than the locals and I see nothing wrong with that.I am on CF right now and just stopped in Os Arroxos Crispeta bar in Trabadelo.
A Spanish pilgrim had exactly the same order as me and he paid 6.50 euro and I was charged 10.00 euro!!! It is not first time on Camino that I've experienced that and people should know which places will cheat you because you are not local.
It is a shame that this is happening.
Buen Camino
@Bedspring I agree with you being an active Google Maps Local Guide myself (level 10). I would leave a negative review which can really hurt a local business because many people will read your review and decide to give the bar a miss. If you leave a review I would be prepared to give your post on Google Maps a like, the more support it gets the more swing it holds.Yes, I started the other thread.
I think a possible solution to this, is to ask to see the price list, which I suspect they have by Law to display. Obviously looking before is the best idea, however in the situation you found yourself in, it could be a solution.
It would be helpful if someone could give the Spanish for asking to see this Tariff.
Google reviews is another course of action. People in tourist places used to think that they can rip tourists off because they will never see them again, but Google reviews changes this.
The other customer was a "Spanish pilgrim" and maybe a "local" as he had small backpack, who knows.I noticed in the first post that it is not clear whether the other customer was a "Spanish pilgrim" or a "local".
And in order to know whether it was "cheating" or "a discount" it would be useful to know what the official price for the purchased items was.
The Google and Tripadvisor reviews of the bar-albergue Crispeta in Trabadelo cover the usual range from "best place ever" and "friendly service" to "rude behaviour of the serving staff" and from "highly recommended" to "never again". One reviewer says that "they serve locals first" and one reviewer (with a Spanish looking name btw) writes in Spanish that "he charges the pilgrims more than the townspeople, he did it in front of us".
Thanks but honestly, I'd have to look it up on Google and waste my time. I walked CF 4 times and coming back in 2025 but will not stop there. Good and lively discussion about the topic. I had ni idea it was tha "common". I guess I am naive despite my age@Bedspring I agree with you being an active Google Maps Local Guide myself (level 10). I would leave a negative review which can really hurt a local business because many people will read your review and decide to give the bar a miss. If you leave a review I would be prepared to give your post on Google Maps a like, the more support it gets the more swing it holds.
I mean what I have said really. I not am Spanish but have probably spent about 2 of the last 4 years there. Only about 2.5 months of that on Camino. The sort of place I go to will tend to charge wine about €1.5 to €3 so if the cost for say 4 drinks rolls up to €12 I tap and go. If with someone else one of us will it pick it up or halve it. I don’t recall getting many paper bills though maybe I have missed it. I understand the law but if i been speaking to barman for a while it just informal. I’m not really one for poring over the bill esp. when numbers are so small. I’m not one for ‘nickle and diming’ stuff and you invariably end up buying and receiving drinks from folks at the bar so it’s gut feel anyway. A recent month in Cordoba we had breakfast at the same place everyday. And the same food and drink. After about five days the waiteess brought out the coffee without us even asking. The charge was the same everyday and no paper bill was offered.not sure what you mean by the places ''i frequent. on the camino'', but i'm pretty sure anywhere you either get the bill/'tique' without asking for it, or you can ask for it. the breakdown should be on the piece of paper.
likewise, i believe there is a law where the bars must display the prices, drinks and such, on a wall, etc. in theory at least. the menus must always indicate of the IVA is included and/or cubierto/service.
finally, spanish pilgrims are not locals. we will get ripped off just like the pilgrims from abroad. the server just might think twice.
It is cheating because otherwise there is no point of legal price list and if it is not cheating they shoul have two price list so everyone can see them and have a choice. As I said, it is not about tje money!It's not cheating. A few countries and cities have higher prices for tourists than the locals and I see nothing wrong with that.
I've done full VF twice and haven't had similar experience in Italy. I guess it depends on the person behind the counterSo many great responses here. This happens globally in many resorts and "snowbird" locales, even in the good ol' USA. My wife and I happen to live part of the year in a popular "snowbird" destination where we have been going for the winter for upwards of 20 years. A couple of years ago the electrician who occasionally does odd jobs at our house, gave me a rather lowball bid for some work. I questioned him, feeling it was too low. He just shrugged and said, "it's the price for locals". I wasn't unhappy to be getting the local price, and only then did I realize that for years, I'd been charged the "tourist" price (which had never made me unhappy before). I thanked him but didn't ask him what changed my status; I was just grateful for the discount.
In some places on the Via Francigena, there are restaurants that offer a "pilgrim" menu, fixed price. However, in Radicofani, when I inquired about that menu, I was told it was for the first X number of pilgrims and I was too late. I was offered the regular menu, which was quite a bit more expensive, and I moved on to another restaurant. Only time that has happened on any of my camino hikes.
Buen Camino.
It's happened to me, so I have to vigilant. If you feel cheated, speak up and if it's not resolved, walk out. I speak Spanish (cuban) so I see through their little scams. Not everyone does it. Let it go and chalk it up to inexperience. Remember the adage. "Fool me once your fault. Fool me twice, my fault." Best wishes.I am on CF right now and just stopped in Os Arroxos Crispeta bar in Trabadelo.
A Spanish pilgrim had exactly the same order as me and he paid 6.50 euro and I was charged 10.00 euro!!! It is not first time on Camino that I've experienced that and people should know which places will cheat you because you are not local.
It is a shame that this is happening.
Buen Camino
That said I think Spain rates as one of the places likely to rip you off certainly from a bar standpoint. And certainly on the Camino.
I have not knowingly experienced this and don’t feel it’s too widespread !
i am confused about your position. Did you leave a word out of the first quote above?I have always found the Spanish bar folks super trustful. Yet to feel I have been had over.
I can totally understand your frustration. I would feel the same.I am on CF right now and just stopped in Os Arroxos Crispeta bar in Trabadelo.
A Spanish pilgrim had exactly the same order as me and he paid 6.50 euro and I was charged 10.00 euro!!! It is not first time on Camino that I've experienced that and people should know which places will cheat you because you are not local.
It is a shame that this is happening.
Buen Camino
We had a great laugh about paying 5,50€ for 3 beers. But then, we paid 5,50€ for 3 beers, so we didn't bother complaining.On my caminos I have always felt that bar/cafe servers were just making up random amounts to charge me.
Ooh yes! Good spot! I was typing into an iPhone with a cracked screen with the sun shining right down very intensely! My eyes are still blurry now even though I have found shade! Thank you highlighting!i am confused about your position. Did you leave a word out of the first quote above?
I personally have no problem if a bar on the Camino or elsewhere chooses to give a discount to their local, loyal customers.A Spanish pilgrim had exactly the same order as me and he paid 6.50 euro and I was charged 10.00 euro!!!
I tried but I got the usual "no habla" so...I can totally understand your frustration. I would feel the same.
Given the price difference was so clear, did you ask about it? What response did you get?
Not really. If someone wants to make themselves miserable by dwelling on a perceived (or actual) slight and then discussing it at length on social media - that's their choice. But it's only cultivating resentment - which negatively affects them, rather than the person the irritation is directed towards. In the moment maybe something could have been done. But after the fact? Never mind. The Camino is a joy. Why not pay attention to that instead? It's a much happier place.TBH, telling you to get over it and count your blessings is rather insensitive and condescending.
Sure. Who would be?But if I am at a Spanish bar and I get a drink charged at 50% more because I am not Spanish, well I’m not happy!
I have edited your original post #5.Should have read ‘That said I think Spain rates as one of the places least likely to rip you off certainly from a bar standpoint. And certainly on the Camino.
I noticed this too but I thought it was a good gesture to give discounts to locals. Often when you live in a place filled with tourists of any kind the increase in prices push the locals out. We are simple passing through while locals are returning again and again .I am on CF right now and just stopped in Os Arroxos Crispeta bar in Trabadelo.
A Spanish pilgrim had exactly the same order as me and he paid 6.50 euro and I was charged 10.00 euro!!! It is not first time on Camino that I've experienced that and people should know which places will cheat you because you are not local.
It is a shame that this is happening.
Buen Camino
Ah thank you! Sorry to add to your workload. I have just spent two hours in a wellness centre which was quite dark and came out to bright sunlight! My eyes were on fire. Its was a very grey morning and forecast so ditched sunglasses. I wanted to post quickly before I consumed a couple of German beers. That will teach me!I have edited your original post #5.
I was a a bit surprised when I read it, and was watching subsequent posts for a clue. The funny thing was that I sometimes found it hard to be sure who was on which "side" of the argument. People post merrily away without reading or listening.
Fear not, I do deal with it immediately and it doesn’t rankle. Never. It’s in the moment. If I walk out and don’t challenge then I’m at fault. As I say I have only had generosity in Spanish bars. Free drinks, free food, great prices and so on. If you are travelling alone sit at the bar and get involved. You. get properly looked after!Not really. If someone wants to make themselves miserable by dwelling on a perceived (or actual) slight and then discussing it at length on social media - that's their choice. But it's only cultivating resentment - which negatively affects them, rather than the person the irritation is directed towards. In the moment maybe something could have been done. But after the fact? Never mind. The Camino is a joy. Why not pay attention to that instead? It's a much happier place.
Sure. Who would be?
But deal with it in the moment with a hoja or something. Grizzling long after the fact only makes you unhappy. It doesn't affect the bar at all.
I have never felt cheated in Spain. In 16 years. On the contrary, I have felt welcome and respected. Maybe because I speak some Spanish?We had a great laugh about paying 5,50€ for 3 beers. But then, we paid 5,50€ for 3 beers, so we didn't bother complaining.
I have never felt cheated in Spain. In 16 years. On the contrary, I have felt welcome and respected. Maybe because I speak some Spanish?
Anyway, the price level in Spain (for everything) is way beyond that of my home country. I smile and am happy.
In my hometown, me and my partner go to town on rare occasions for a drink. I pay for my beer; she gets a glass of white free. We are locals, and the owner knows us. Fair and kind. And thus, the owner knows we will return for a drink and chat. We are not just passing by, demanding...
JMHO too but I sense from this forum that many pilgrims are quite nervous about engaging with locals, many are introvert, nervous and don’t like crowds and want to be alone. Nothing wrong with that and as a very shy child and teenager I get it. There are also pressure to do laundry, edit blogs, sort photos, book hotac and so on. Add the fact that pilgrims are just passing through and in a different bar everyday I think it’s can be hard to engage and build even temporary relationship. Maybe a lot of locals see pilgrims as standoffish , here to get the job done. Maybe they seen them as cash cows to rinse every single € out of. Certainly when you stay for an extended period you see how trustworthy the Spanish are esp. in bars so I have really no concerns despite the odd shocker as reported hereAs a pilgrim, say "Thank you". As a pilgrim, do not demand. Spain is, anyway, cheaper than where you come from, most likely. Enjoy your economic support for Spain, and do not count your pennies too much. JMHO.
Edit: I find the Spanish to be very fair and honest. I feel very much more cheated by my own government and politicians.
Indeed. You are so right. The fault is not on the Spanish side, IMHO it is on the visitor side: No respect for an ancient culture, long before Columbus; only demands and selfishness.JMHO too but I sense from this forum that many pilgrims are quite nervous about engaging with locals, many are introvert, nervous and don’t like crowds and want to be alone. Nothing wrong with that and as a very shy child and teenager I get it. There are also pressure to do laundry, edit blogs, sort photos, book hotac and so on. Add the fact that pilgrims are just passing through and in a different bar everyday I think it’s can be hard to engage and build even temporary relationship. Maybe alotnofnlocalsmsee
Pilgrim as Standpfflsh, here to get the job hone. Certainly when you stay for an extended period you see how trustworthy the Spanish are esp. in bars some really have no concerns despite the odd shocker!
I just feel when I go to the South, which for me starts in Cheshire I am being robbed all the time. A pint in my local is £3.50 ;-)
It’s a lot higher than 15% now. Suggested gratuity tends to 18, 20 or 25% I think or sometimes 20/22/25. It’s a cultural thing though so I wouldn’t file it under ‘rip off’. Americans seem largely accepting of it, on the surface anyway, though it shocks Europeans. There seems to be a lot of media coverage about it in USA,especially because even takeaway services, like coffee, are requesting gratuities! You can choose not to pay but it won’t be pleasant!The practice can happen anywhere. We eere ripped off by a taxi driver in Rome and he did it so well that we actually admired and laughed at the experience. However the worst is when cheating is institutionalised and becomes accepted as the norm. In USA I had meals in restaurants, noted the price and after sometimes atrocious food and indifferent service was routinely expected to tip 15%. On one occasion having a meal with a European delegate to a conference I attended, hecwas so pleased that he offered what would have been a generous tip in the country he came from of 10%. The waiter, eho wss very polite but a little perturbed asked Him what was wrong with the meal.
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I think it is more accepted by Americans because the wages of our wait staff are lower than the European counterparts.Americans seem largely accepting of it, on the surface anyway, though it shocks Europeans.
I think it is more accepted by Americans because the wages of our wait staff are lower than the European counterparts.
Absolutely, I agree, but until that would ever happen, I accept what it is, and tip accordingly.It would surely be better and more appropriate to pay decent wages?
EU rules state that the prices should be displayed, in order that anybody can know the maximum amount that could be charged.It's not cheating. A few countries and cities have higher prices for tourists than the locals and I see nothing wrong with that.
Well, EU or no EU, the law in Spain is apparently this one: Real Decreto 3423/2000, de 15 de diciembre, por el que se regula la indicación de los precios de los productos ofrecidos a los consumidores y usuarios. I did not bother to read it, though.EU rules state that the prices should be displayed, in order that anybody can know the maximum amount that could be charged. But it is not forbidden to allow discounts.
This will not answer the question about Spain (sorry) but in Portugal they have to have a list displaying their prices and they have to provide a receiptAnd despite 70+ comments in this thread and a similar number in another recent and related thread, this is still not clear: Are bars in Spain obliged to have a list of their prices on display somewhere in the bar? And are bars obliged to give you a receipt with details of what you purchased and paid for?
("CEE" is the previous name for "EU")Well, EU or no EU,
I am not sure what your point is? As anyone who clicks on the Spanish Royal Decree mentioned earlier can see it contains references to various EU directives about consumer law. And as we all know European law directives, in contrast to EU law regulations, are not direct applicable law in Spain. They need to be transposed into a Spanish law first. And then these Spanish laws apply to the bars and restaurants in Spain.("CEE" is the previous name for "EU")
Being part of EU, Spain apply the rules it states for trading.
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/pricing-payments/index_en.htm
"Price list in bars: Obligation by lawI am not sure what your point is?
Is that before or after the "forum local's" discount?This comment is worth 2 cents
There is nothing wrong with this; it goes on all over the world as it should. Many of the locals would not, as you, be able to make such a trip as this, especially those in the country. Plus, the behavior of many entitled, rude, and inconsiderate tourists, at times, is absolutely horrendous. This is why you see the flood of anti-tourist and anti-cruise ships around the world. This movement is growing. How would feel if you were a struggling rural farmer seeing your land trashed, pooped upon/leaving it as is, fruit picked at liberty even from trees not bordering a pilgrim pathway, etc. it is a wonder that so many places and locals put up with tourists as well as they do. I am not criticizing or piling on you; I am merely saying there is another side to the coin, a significant other side. ChuckI am on CF right now and just stopped in Os Arroxos Crispeta bar in Trabadelo.
A Spanish pilgrim had exactly the same order as me and he paid 6.50 euro and I was charged 10.00 euro!!! It is not first time on Camino that I've experienced that and people should know which places will cheat you because you are not local.
It is a shame that this is happening.
Buen Camino
I agree, it’s the way of the world, just relax and let it go!This sort of thing happens all over the world, is it right, I have no opinion either way. Lets be honest it's not expensive to walk the camino, enjoy the accommodation and food and enjoy.
If I ran an albergue on the Ozark Highlands Trail (which I very well may in the future) I would charge the locals less.I think it is more accepted by Americans because the wages of our wait staff are lower than the European counterparts.
Why not ask the waiter why the difference. Answer would probably be “it was a mistake”, whether it was or not.I am on CF right now and just stopped in Os Arroxos Crispeta bar in Trabadelo.
A Spanish pilgrim had exactly the same order as me and he paid 6.50 euro and I was charged 10.00 euro!!! It is not first time on Camino that I've experienced that and people should know which places will cheat you because you are not local.
It is a shame that this is happening.
Buen Camino
No discounts for locals in hospitality services in my neck of the woods. Perhaps if you were a regular customer for some sort of business supplies you might get a discount.It happens everywhere. You undoubtedly get certain benefits in your own local pubs and restaurants that tourists don’t receive.
I have seen these. Good to remember.every business is required to have “hojas de reclamación” (complaint forms
I like your comment and agree. I have no problems with locals getting a discount. They put up with us pilgrims !If a local gets a discount on the price on the price list, thats fine by me, so long as I do not pay more than is on the price list. One is a discount, the other is dishonest.
Letting it go doesn't make it right.Sure, this happens sometimes.
But why get hot under the collar when a local gets a discount? It's not cheating, it's preferential treatment because you're perceived as the tourist and he's not. You'll be much happier when you let it go.
Google translate is very useful. Set it up with the required language beforehand. You can scan written notices/ menus etc and even use the spoken translator.Yes, I started the other thread.
I think a possible solution to this, is to ask to see the price list, which I suspect they have by Law to display. Obviously looking before is the best idea, however in the situation you found yourself in, it could be a solution.
It would be helpful if someone could give the Spanish for asking to see this Tariff.
Google reviews is another course of action. People in tourist places used to think that they can rip tourists off because they will never see them again, but Google reviews changes this.
Of course not.Letting it go doesn't make it right.
Rather than cheating - I always saw this as bars and cafes looking after locals who are, after all, their year round trade - long after the pilgrims are gone. I like that - so many towns and villages clearly struggle to survive - we take - we should be prepared also to give.Sure, this happens sometimes.
But why get hot under the collar when a local gets a discount? It's not cheating, it's preferential treatment because you're perceived as the tourist and he's not. You'll be much happier when you let it go
I am on CF right now and just stopped in Os Arroxos Crispeta bar in Trabadelo.
A Spanish pilgrim had exactly the same order as me and he paid 6.50 euro and I was charged 10.00 euro!!! It is not first time on Camino that I've experienced that and people should know which places will cheat you because you are not local.
It is a shame that this is happening.
Buen Camino
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