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They are a long way from having finished, but the bridges and other connections between the existing roads are basically done, so from the Pilgrim's perspective, it's more or less back to normal.There was a lot of road construction between Navarette and Logrono last summer. Heavy equipment and dust. Hope they are finished up for your walk tomorrow.
Hope that your pain will be eased by the long sleep, a day of rest & good food.I've said it before a couple of times in the thread, but this is the kind of occasional bad pain, when I get it at home, I just stay in all day unless forced out by no food in the fridge.
It's no big deal, just an ordinary part of the disability, and it doesn't normally stop me from walking on like this.
But it has been compounded a bit by the food restrictions business, so that it will need to be a day of cerveza, charcuterie, and cheese.
Not really volunteers as such, in the normal Camino sense, but locals involved in Parish work for the church, though I think in Summer they may also have some Camino volunteers too.Hope you are able to get moved as needed. I know they are pretty strict at the parochial about consecutive nights. I have not personally worked there, but have other hospitalero friends who have. Interesting that they are open in the winter as that has not been a winter volunteer option for us in past years. I know the priest did allow Phil to stay overnight in December one year on his way to serve in Grañón, but they were not officially open. Are there HosVol volunteers there or does it seem like locals who are filling in?
phenolic compounds and methylxanthines from coffee and cocoa can trigger an attenuation of inflammation
Yeah, but my gut is increasingly rejecting chocolate, to my great and greater disappointment.Well, fortunately neither coffee beans and cocoa beans are legumes except in th colliquial sense. They are each in a different family, and both beneficial in their own ways.
From time to time there have been some hints of condemnation on this thread, towards your very honest posts about how you manage your pain and inflammation. You answer those with considerable dignity.I've said it before a couple of times in the thread, but this is the kind of occasional bad pain, when I get it at home, I just stay in all day unless forced out by no food in the fridge.
It's no big deal, just an ordinary part of the disability, and it doesn't normally stop me from walking on like this.
It's the dietary requirements that some people just don't understand, but without the change in diet, I would certainly be in no state to walk a Camino, but instead I have spent periods of months basically bed-ridden, and many more just stuck in the house, and thinking that my walking days were completely finished.From time to time there have been some hints of condemnation on this thread, towards your very honest posts about how you manage your pain and inflammation. You answer those with considerable dignity.
What strikes me is that despite your handicap, you persevere. You’ve figured out what works for you and you adapt. Many people might have surrendered to their limitations and bemoaned their lives, but you have mastered your body’s contrariness and you forge onward to fulfill your dreams. And shown that it can be done.
i applaud you. Ultreia.
I am almost always disappointed with the steak in Spain. Looks like something might be open in Torres del Rio, too? La Pata de Oca?Day 343 - - Viana
I am in Navarra !!
After I finally got out of Logroño, it wasn't bad. Good walking weather, even a bit of blue sky in the afternoon. Only met one pilgrim on the way, but I hear that there were four others in Viana the night before.
There were three of us last night, with French as a common language, including a German peregrina who is on her way back from Santiago - - though not walking the entire route.
The landscape has started its slow shift into looking like France, though it has a long way to go for that.
I slept longer than usual, my usual shift to dozing at 3-4 AM took place at 6-7 instead, and I'll need a while more to wake up properly. I am out of the Albergue anyway, and with cerveza number one.
I had a menú last night, was OK but nothing to write home about. The steak was good though. I would have looked for something different I think, if the place hadn't been so conveniently located next to the Municipal.
Pain's not so bad this morning, though I did need a second antiinflammatory, but it was worse yesterday morning. I suppose that some extra need for recovery caused that longer sleep.
The German peregrina said she thinks an Albergue at Sansol is open, which would not just be cheaper but would get me 1K closer to Los Arcos, where the peregrino that I met on the road had stayed, so I suppose that something should be open there too.
Less than 150K to the border !!
Ah, yes, I lived on a farm for 20 years and we raised our own beef, pork, chicken, and even our own lamb, rabbit, and turkey some years so I am pretty picky. Wherever you stay tonight, hope they have a wonderful bar nearby with you favorites on the menu.pfffff I am being tempted by the idea of staying a second night, mainly because I am getting hungry.
Steak does vary in quality in Spain, but the best of it is quite brilliant. I think my favourite cut is chuleta, unless I am hungry enough to want a chuletón.
Best I have had was IIRC a ribeye chuleta in I think Redecilla del Camino last year.
Hoping that the extra night in Viana will be under a roof rather than under the stars.So I am staying another night in Viana. I really would have preferred to move on, but oh well, and clearly I have more fatigue than I I imagined.
Maybe it was fear, rather than bigotry.Though I cannot excuse this woman's bigotry.
Several pilgrims have reported on the forum this year of having had negative experiences in the places between Los Arcos & Logrono, I am sorry that you are having this experience. Other albergue hospitaleros have respected you and the long pilgrimage you are making. To put a pilgrim out in the street because another objects to their presence is contrary to the spirit of the Camino, to do so in the rain is dishonourable & earns that hospitalero a badge of shame in my opinion.This is an extreme example of the general misunderstanding that people have of what I need to do to keep my pain under control.
Though I cannot excuse this woman's bigotry.
They have no idea at all that my pain is this bad, nor what I need to do just to keep it vaguely under control, for example to drink more than these bigots might personally approve of.
But well, put me out into the rain, that's perfectly fine.
What a fantastic hospitalera she is !!
Good morning @JabbaPappa, today marks the winter Solstice & the point at which the days start to lengthen. This always lifts my spirits here in the grey, dreich days of the Scottish winter and I hope that it may do the same for you in Navarra.Last time I was here in 2014, I would have been out in the street as well, if the priest hadn't intervened on my behalf. They seem to have very little consideration for pilgrims generally. Except the Parrochial, which is excellent, even though some pilgrims don't appreciate it.
As to that peregrina, she really does need to comprehend the difference between an Albergue and a hotel, and perhaps also to be a bit more considerate towards other pilgrims.
Our conversation last night - - where are you from ? < grunt > Which country ? < silence > Where did you start ? < grunt >
Real Camino spirit.
Pain is bloody awful again, but not enough to prevent me getting out of here. If it were, I'd rather get a bus than stay here any more.
Wasn't that cold though, so it could have been a lot worse, though the whole thing has put me into a really ghastly mood.
Dawn has already started to get earlier from my Easterly progress, but yes, this is definitely something that I have been looking forward to and thinking of. And as I start to head back towards the Mediterranean after SJPP, better yet.Good morning @JabbaPappa, today marks the winter Solstice & the point at which the days start to lengthen. This always lifts my spirits here in the grey, dreich days of the Scottish winter and I hope that it may do the same for you in Navarra.
JabbaPapa,....
Weather is clear and bright though, and there is Estella to look forward to. And SJPP. The Camino fatigue is real though.
Oh well, keep on going and Sus Eia and all that sort of thing.
Clear and bright is good news.Weather is clear and bright though, and there is Estella to look forward to. And SJPP.
I bet it is! You've come a heck of a long way. Fortunately from now the days are getting longer, which lifts tte spirits.The Camino fatigue is real though.
Please don't take offence, but I feel it needs to be asked:As to that peregrina, she really does need to comprehend the difference between an Albergue and a hotel, and perhaps also to be a bit more considerate towards other pilgrims.
Our conversation last night - - where are you from ? < grunt > Which country ? < silence > Where did you start ? < grunt >
Real Camino spirit.
Glad you made it and hope it is something you can eat!Day 345 - - Torres del Rio
I'm in the Hostal San Andres in Torres del Rio. I definitely would not have made it here yesterday if I had tried.
Wasn't sure if I would be eating or not, but dinner is in about twenty minutes.
Great to hear you had post one million.JabbaPapa,
Great to read that you had a good night. In nearby Los Arcos there are several good 'watering holes". The resto Mavi, C. la Serna, 2, was always my favorite filled with hungry locals. Carpe diem!
That's true, but this was beyond that. It's a beer that would cost about €1 in Portugal and nearly always between €1.50 and €2 in Spain.The cost of groceries is rising rather dramatically all over; you may be just witnessing that.
Have you decided on lodging tonight and tomorrow? I know many places will be closed for the holiday. Glad the weather is warm enough there for a t-shirt.And FWIW, I am in jeans and t-shirt again.
A forum member is helping, and the two nights will be in Estella. And the Mass tomorrow.Have you decided on lodging tonight and tomorrow? I know many places will be closed for the holiday. Glad the weather is warm enough there for a t-shirt.
Vicariously enjoying your pilgrimage.A forum member is helping, and the two nights will be in Estella. And the Mass tomorrow.
So glad you are in Estella for Christmas Eve and Christmas. Such a nice place.And the Mass tomorrow.
Best wishes for a peaceful Christmas J.I am supping on my chorizo and my remains of the Irache wine. A proper feast !!
Basically my ordinary clothes plus the specific hiking kit, and extra clothes in the backpack to change into.Best wishes for a peaceful Christmas J.
I wonder if, as light relief, and a counterpoint to the ultra-light adventure-racers amongst us, you might one day give an overview of the clothing and equipment which has allowed you to walk further than many could imagine possible?
I suspect it would be a lesson in simplicity.
Interesting. This is from San Bento church, which fronts onto the Plaza Cervantes, and is very similar.Waking in England on a cool Christmas morning, I have been thinking of you. I suspect I am one of many silent followers who are in awe of your perseverance and determination.
I hope the season and beyond brings you peace, comfort, warm shelter, good tinto and fine meat.
God speed.
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The image is from Santiagio Cathedral
JabbaPapa,I am glad that I was snug in bed, because even though the temperature is clement, it is very damp out, and outdoors would have been imperfect.
Walking the whole stage yesterday with the wrong kind of beer was also imperfect, so that my joints are writing letters of complaint to my central nervous system.
Thankfully, the bakery here has some groceries, and *they* at least have the right kind ; and the bar is open for my morning coffee and cerveza.
The Albergue Bidegain is peculiar, and I can well understand why he keeps it mainly off the grid, except for the Winter Aprinca list.
It's just two beds, so that it would be a disservice for most pilgrims if it were easier to discover. Also his policy of no reservations.
Anyway, second antiinflammatory, and waiting for the cervezas to kick in as well.
And it's not too far to Puente La Reina.
It's less than 100K to SJPP ...
JabbaPapa,Things seem to be a little complicated between Pamplona and Roncesvalles, but I hope that they will be better than they seem.
To Uterga today anyway, and Pamplona tomorrow, which will be a longer day.
Might need a third antiinflammatory to get going, definitely more cerveza, though there are a couple of pueblos and no doubt some watering holes along the way.
This will be my first time on the Francès between Puente and SJPP since the 2005, though I think that last time I was forced to sleep outdoors by the hospitaleros in Roncesvalles was on my hitch-hike back in 2014. Last time I slept there normally was in 1994 ... I did sleep in the Albergue at SJPP in 2014 though, IIRC.
JabbaPapa,Day 352 - - Uterga
I took it slow, including because there was a fairly cold mist this morning, but mostly because my knees were in a complaining mood.
Obanos I have spoken of, and I had a beer and a couple of tapas in Muruzábal, some mini sausage things with a little bread, and a small bunch of white grapes.
It was a short day anyway.
I am in the Casa Baztán which is great, nothing special in a material sense, just rows of metal bunk beds, but the hospitaleros are super nice, they have put the heating on just for me, and yes I am alone, and they are making me a dinner.
And as many blankets as I might wish for.
No, it's dead. My data is safe, i.e. mainly the photos, and I have most of my functionality through this backup device, but it takes less good photos, there's some cloud storage management that was already problematic and is now a little more complicated, and I am not sure how to recover messaging history or if it's possible from out in the sticks with access to no Windows device.JabbaPapa,
I am sorry to learn about this problem. Perhaps the best place to get advice and or help would be in SJPdP. next Monday morning. Hope that you have found a good spot in Zubiri for sleeping tonight.
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