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Camino Fossil AD 1999, now living in Santiago de C
- Time of past OR future Camino
- First: Camino Francés 1999
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Last: Santiago - Muxia 2019
Now: http://egeria.house/
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I know, I know...I'm not supposed to care about the "cheaters" on the Camino but I'm 18 kms away from santiago now, and there may be close to hundreds of "pilgrims" invading in taxis and vans and busses.Note the number
I support the movement to 300km Compostelas. It will shorten the queues in the Pilgrim Office by hours
hundreds of "pilgrims" invading in taxis and vans and busses.
Castilian, I try to err on the side of compassion, but I am here, right now, watching this. These are party/fiesta caravans....or make longer the stretch with
You never know.
Castilian, I try to err on the side of compassion, but I am here, right now, watching this. These are party/fiesta caravans.
Thanks, everyone, for reconnecting me to a sense of humor.
This had been a very discouraging day, and in the mayhem, I forgot how to laugh. Thanks for the reminder!
PS...some of the party busses are badly maintained, leaving in their wake a trail of sulfur...
PS...some of the party busses are badly maintained, leaving in their wake a trail of sulfur...
One of the central components of the Jubilee of Mercy is that the Holy Doors throughout the world will be opened during this Jubilee year. When they are opened at the beginning of the year, "the Holy Door will become a Door of Mercy through which anyone who enters will experience the love of God who consoles, pardons, and instils hope" (MV, 3. . . ). Since each diocese will have the opportunity to open a Door of Mercy in their diocese, all members of the faithful will have opportunity to make a pilgrimage to their local Holy Door during the Jubilee. This pilgrimage is to be a journey of walking closer with God and discovering "momentof grace and spiritual renewal" (MV, 3. . . ). These doors are symbols of God's mercy, open to welcome everyone into the compassion of God's love that Christ proclaimed.
I understand the humor in the OP really doesn't have anything to do with crowding but it is the start of a new month and so let's see what happened:Note the number the apocalyptic end is near
I didn't realize that there was a Renfe ticket office at the Pilgrim's Office in Santiago. That's really important info for me and others I'm sure who will need to take a train to Madrid, etc. ThanksWhen I play Rummy with my aunt, I always play triple-6 if I can because it creeps her out
When we got to Santiago a week and a half ago, we must have had luck on our side. We walked through the tunnel just as the cathedral bells were chiming noon, which was very cool, and when we went to the Pilgrims Office, there were only about 10 people in line. We had stopped short of Santiago the day before though - about 15 km out - so our walk in was easy and not very long. I think we got in ahead of the wave for the day. I went back to the Pilgrims Office 2 days later in the afternoon to buy train tickets from the Renfe office there and the line of pilgrims was incredibly long.
???I walk my walk! Follow my heart and nose. Enjoy
Same has happened to me.I loved the 666. I never worried about the bus pilgrims, but I quite enjoyed being photographed by them and with them. I must be on flickr sites all over Japan, Spain, California, and Portugal.
Same had happened to me.
Yes, the walker who does not take taxis, vans or buses is becoming a kind of odd curiosity, good for a selfie. Especially if you are old enough, with a graying beard, and a generally tired look.
I understand the humor in the OP really doesn't have anything to do with crowding but it is the start of a new month and so let's see what happened:
The pilgrims office recorded 33,757 in June 2010, the last Holy Year. In June 2015 they recorded 35,925 and in June this year (2016) they recorded 29,846. Last month (May 2016) they recorded 32,782.
http://peregrinossantiago.es/eng/pilgrims-office/statistics/
@DanielH:I didn't realize that there was a Renfe ticket office at the Pilgrim's Office in Santiago. That's really important info for me and others I'm sure who will need to take a train to Madrid, etc. Thanks
Yes, that fellow was extremely helpful. I think that Renfe office is on Rua do Villar, which is parallel to Rua Nova where the Pilgrim House is located. Certainly the people at Pilgrim House can direct you there - it is just 5 minutes away. It is a tiny office so you need to look carefully!@DanielH:
I dropped into the Renfe ticket office last year after picking up my compostela at the old Pilgrim's Office, which has, of course, been moved since. The Renfe ticket office was nearby on the same street, but not apparently in any way associated with the Pilgrim's Office. You may have to go to the old location to find Renfe. Sorry I do not recall the street address. The salesman spoke perfect Engish and was very courteous.
Sometimes I walk by smell. Fresh bread for example. Cut hay.
When we queueing at the old Pilgrim Office last May, a tour group came in with their guide who asked several pilgrims if she could see their Pilgrim Passport. People were reluctant to engage with her but we weren't in a hurry and she was leading a group of older people (and I'm over 60!) so I went over and showed them my passport. Several of the group were overcome and in tears and communicated to me (my Spanish was poor but improving daily now) that they wished that they were physically able to walk the Pilgrimage themselves. They studied the stamps intently and spoke to me about places where they had walked or stopped at along the Way.
It added another quite unexpected dimension to my Camino and gave me a brief window with a very different view into one of the tourist bus groups.
Gillean, sorry, but in my experience I have discovered that any time someone says "they are loathe to judge," it is typically followed by a harsh judgment.When I walked the Camino Frances in 2014 I walked much of it with a Spanish man who was in his mid 30s but had walked the Camino from Sarria when he was in high school. He enjoyed the 100 km walk very much but he definitely noticied the pilgrims who had come from further away and he recognized that they had some "thing" that he and his group didn't have. He walked from Pamplona in 2014 to try and get a little bit of that "thing" for himself. So that 100 km walk can plant a seed for the future.
I am loathe to judge others for how they walk the camino but for me the camino for a compostella begins at 100 km from Santiago. Anything before that is up to me as an individual. I do not support the notion of changing the requirement for a compostella to 300 km. It would make it impractical for all the groups of young people, mostly Spanish, who only have a week to spare and for the older or the physically handicapped people who can only muster the energy for 100 km. And what about the people who have invested their time, energy and money to open albergues and other facilities in that last 100 km? Should they just kiss their investment goodbye because someone, likely from far away, doesn't like to see crowds of people having fun and, yes, in some cases, cheating a little bit in the last 100 km?