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I am reading and reading and remembering the way... thank you for reporting!Caminho Nascente Day 13: Viana do Alentejo to Évora (~36km).
Yes we did enjoy a great dinner overlooking the plains! And yes, it’s a Scottish/South African operation and Vicki (the Scot) is very welcoming and gives lots of personal attention. It is really a wonderful place, the accommodation highlight of this camino so far with all due respect to the Alvito castle.Love your description of the place in Evoramonte, @jungleboy. In fact, I had to look it up and see that you probably enjoyed an atmospheric dinner outside looking over the Alentejo plains, wow just beautiful! I am assuming, because the letter from the owners shows a guy in a kilt, that it is an expat operation!
Or you could just walk the Nascente and see it all!I am keeping track of the Alentejo spots you have been to. If I ever get back to a regular Lisbon visit again, a return trip to the Alentejo will be high on my list. Especially in spring, it is such a beautiful part of the world during those months.
Thank youI am reading and reading and remembering the way... thank you for reporting!
The only Quinta São Jorge I see on Google Maps is too far east (in Corval) to be the one you’re talking about. We looked and asked several people and couldn’t find any places to break up this stage. O Meu Monte could have been an option but they say they have a two-night minimum and didn’t answer when we called several times.36 km is really a large bit! I had a break at the Quinta São Jorge. It is noted at km 712 in http://www.jakobus-info.de/jakobuspilger/96-spain-lusitana.htm - ok, too late for you. Perhaps you will find other good hints.
OK, so it’s on/near the N380, the parallel road to the west from the road the arrows take you on. This is the way @Friend from Barquinha suggested, and it’s also close to the megaliths and ruins of a Roman bath. So I think diverting the camino this way would be a good idea even though it’s longer. I am in contact with the organisation responsible for the camino and we are supposed to have some kind of debrief after I finish, so that will be one of the points to discuss.The Quinta São Jorge is near to La Nossa Senhora da Tourega and left hand to the N380.
Yes, we also see all manner of cork products in Lisbon souvenir shops, including umbrellas, shoes, and now face masks. I was under the impression that the cork industry was in trouble because of wineries switching to cheaper materials, so I assumed that was why they were diversifying with other products. I'm pretty sure I read that in a guidebook years ago.Your talking about cork reminded me of the biggest change I saw the last time I was in Évora — many stores selling everything, from umbrellas to carry-on suitcases, made of cork.
We have a friend who owned a cork “plantation” but wound up selling it because of the amount of theft. She used to explain that it was an excellent investment because of the huge time delay between planting a tree and getting cork from it, and that the trend was only going to continue because few investors are willing to invest in something that won’t give any rewards for at least 20 (?) years. So cork must be getting more and more expensive
And so I’m guessing that cost is the real reason why so many wine producers are going to non-cork substances for their “corks.” But it surely doesn’t seem to be in short supply as you walk through the streets of Évora and see the many products all made of cork. So I guess I don’t understand the economics, but that’s ok.
Another short digression...Agree with all the above. Apparently, the use of synthetic corks has peaked!According to David, who gave us the tour of his cork factory, those souvenirs make up a very small percentage of cork production, while the bulk of their businesses is still from wineries. Apparently they haven't suffered that much, because even though some wineries have switched to plastic, the production of wine overall has increased. And cork remains the only real option for good quality wine that is going to be kept bottled for more than a year or so, because it's the only material that is just porous enough to allow the wine to breathe.
But yes, cork is more expensive, so that's the main reason some wineries have stopped using it. In reaction, the cork producers now also offer cheaper corks made from the leftover scraps of cork glued together. These don't have the same breathable properties as whole cork, but they can compete in price with plastic.
Great observations! The economic realities of Portugal are/have been such that this has always been an underpopulated part of the country. No big rivers, so no alluvial soils that are easy to farm. Killingly high summer temperatures. A tradition of large upper-class landholdings, rather than small farms.I also thought I might take this opportunity to note that seven of our last eight stages have ended in historic towns - those being Beja, Cuba, Alvito, Viana do Alentejo, Évora, Evoramonte and now Estremoz (with São Miguel de Machede being the exception).
This is a significant concentration of historic towns and cultural heritage in a pretty small area, especially for a region that is known for being underpopulated.
If I think back to the regular CP, it doesn’t boast this kind of concentration of historic towns. From Lisbon to Porto, there are the big three of Santarém, Tomar and Coimbra, but between these places there aren’t really many (any?) places on the route with castles or other medieval heritage.
All of this is to say that this really is a terrific camino. It has everything you could want in a camino: good way marking, picturesque countryside, mostly rural walking, a good combination of villages and towns, cultural heritage from many historical eras, and an opportunity to explore an off-the-beaten-track region of Portugal. Plus soon it might even have a Wise Pilgrim app!
Thank you for the heads-up on the tile museum! My partner is a ceramicist and made tiles himself for many years, and we're always up for Portuguese tiles...Caminho Nascente Day 18: A rest day in Estremoz with over 300km now behind us (but 700km+ to go!).
Estremoz is quite a fascinating place and even though our recent pace has been pretty slow, we’re really happy to have taken a rest day here. It’s a walled hill town with additional interior walls forming a castle and there’s definitely a day of exploring to be done.
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Yesterday afternoon we entered the old city through the Évora gate (which still has a drawbridge!) and our first impression was that everything was a bit dilapidated and rough around the edges compared with the previous historic towns we’ve been in. Parts of the walls are overgrown and unkempt in this area, there are some abandoned buildings, and overall it seems like a poor neighbourhood - but it’s still very interesting to explore. Other parts of the old town are much more elegant, so there’s a nice atmosphere range for curious pilgrims!
Apart from all of this, there is a fantastic new azulejo museum in Estremoz that just opened last July and houses the biggest private collection of azulejos in Portugal. It’s very well presented and lit, it’s housed in a palace with azulejos in situ, and there’s a free wine tasting at the end (and what self-respecting pilgrim isn’t up for some wine at 10:30am?). It’s been a while since I’ve been to the tile museum in Lisbon but I don’t think it could top this one - I was super impressed.
Your partner (and you too I’m sure) would love it. It’s really beautifully done and yes, there’s an introduction panel to both Spanish and Portuguese tiles and the ground floor shows the development of tiles from both countries in and after the Muslim period - this was my favourite part.Thank you for the heads-up on the tile museum! My partner is a ceramicist and made tiles himself for many years, and we're always up for Portuguese tiles...
I just looked up the website, and this is a very big deal in the tile world. We have been to the Lisboa museum, and this looks like a far more extensive collection, with connections to Spanish sources as well as Portuguese ones.
We noticed this abandoned railway line just north of Vale de Peso, where we stayed a couple of years ago on a road trip. The tiny town had an abandoned olive-packing plant; presumably the reason for the rail connection. I get the feeling there were a lot of state-subsidized businesses in rural parts of the country prior to 1974 that just don't make sense anymore, and their premises are abandoned everywhere. And same was true for the rail network. Although they *are* re-connecting some parts of the country that were abandoned by rail, in some areas--this one likely one of them--it just doesn't make sense.Caminho Nascente Day 19: Estremoz to Sousel (~19km).
Today was a short and pleasant day. It was a very rural stage, with no villages between the start and end points, and most of the trail was dirt. The scenery mostly consisted of olive groves and cork trees, but it wasn’t as beautiful as it was around Evoramonte....
There weren’t too many noteworthy things about the stage, although we did cross an old railway line a couple of times. According to the official guide, the hope is that one day this entire stage will be an eco path along the tracks.
Here's to it becoming so again!The guide suggests that the building was once an albergue.
I can't imagine that cork makes a fair die, but as a novelty piece of furniture, I think it's cool.learning a lot about cork production and seeing some cool items like giant dice!
Oh yeah--there are several huge old, abandoned cork factories in various towns that have been turned into public space like malls or community centres. The industry is coming back a bit now, but I think until a few years ago, I think a lot of the raw, peeled-off cork was shipped offshore from Portugal for cheaper processing.There must have been so much demand for cork in those days - from wine producers, fishing boats, and other customers. The industry must be a fraction of the size that it once was?
It’s a long camino but that link can indeed be done and that’s our new (third) plan now. The Nascente is about 30 stages Tavira-Trancoso, then 7 stages on the Torres Trancoso-Braga, and then the Geira.This looks like a gorgeous camino, and now I find myself wondering if it can be linked with the Camino da Geira. Portugal has never really pulled me, but this may change that.
You’re welcome!Thanks, Nick and Wendy, for keeping us in the loop!
The last house I owned, in NZ, had cork flooring in the kichen and entry - from (I was told) Portugal. The house would have been built in the '70s, and the cork wasn't little tiles, but had obviously come in rolls, about three feet or a meter wide. It was lovely to look at, and lovely on the body - as when in the kichen, on one's feet for extended periods.There must have been so much demand for cork in those days - from wine producers, fishing boats, and other customers. The industry must be a fraction of the size that it once was?
Coming up on a river, just after Fronteira; what looks on the map like a slowly meandering one. You're probably into different soils now, more alluvial, which perhaps the olives like more than the cork trees do!?Caminho Nascente Day 20: Sousel to Fronteira (~17km).
Today was a lovely day in the countryside! As has been the case for most of the Alentejo (except that day into Évora!), almost the whole walk was on dirt roads. For much of the stage the scenery was more like that of a week or more ago: open plains with overgrown golden brown grasses dotted with the occasional tree. But a few times we entered completely different green patches with olive trees (not many cork trees today though). Here’s a look at this contrasting scenery:
Coming up on a river, just after Fronteira; what looks on the map like a slowly meandering one.
And looking at the area through GoogleMaps and their photos (2010) this photo of the abandoned railway station in Fronteira, lovely as all the Portuguese stations are, reminds me of the Canadian prairie towns.
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Thank you!Your photography still amazes. Beautiful!
Do ‘pilgrim bathing suits’ (i.e. underwear) count?Did you bring your bathing suits????
That’s similar to my experience in both Spain and Portugal. My anecdotal observation is that the guardrails go up only when EU funding has been given, so it will be interesting to see if there are any signs about EU funding for this castle. I have been there, but remember it only vaguely — I’m telling you, this thread is re-awakening my love of the Alentejo!The Castle in Alter de Chao is beautifully restored, and one of the few I've visited in Portugal where it's not terrifying walking 'round the ramparts at the top. Guardrails, which by no means are standard everywhere! Well worth a visit.
Two of these three things were on today’s stage. There were some loose cows near the trail on a couple of occasions, but they seemed pretty scared of us and quickly moved away.Be careful after the Cabeço de Vide (sulfur baths) and after Alpalhão (before Nisa) with the cows and oxen that graze. After Alpalhão we were attacked by the bulls.
I also inform you that after Alter Pedroso, I advise you not to follow the path on which you are marked (follow the road). There is a closed and high gate, which is very difficult to get through.
We have loved it. We have now walked about the same distance as Lisbon-Porto and I very much prefer the Nascente. If you like open spaces, lots of countryside, being off the beaten track, castles and small historical towns, different eras of history, and a bit of adventure/trailblazing, this is a brilliant choice.This really is looking like a camino I would love. Let's encourage a few more pilgrims so that people like me can occasionally enjoy some English speaking company.
Google Mapped Alter Pedroso--never got there! Got to say, this is one time when the photos attached to a Google Map location are really worth looking at. This looks like a beautiful place--and I guess, starting to climb out of the flats of the Alentejo...Two of these three things were on today’s stage. There were some loose cows near the trail on a couple of occasions, but they seemed pretty scared of us and quickly moved away.
We decided to take the marked path after Alter Pedroso anyway to see the megaliths and because asphalt is really bad for Wendy’s feet. The gate was locked but a pedestrian gate has been built into the left side so we opened that and went through with no problems.
The Castle in Alter de Chao is beautifully restored, and one of the few I've visited in Portugal where it's not terrifying walking 'round the ramparts at the top. Guardrails, which by no means are standard everywhere! Well worth a visit.
That’s similar to my experience in both Spain and Portugal. My anecdotal observation is that the guardrails go up only when EU funding has been given, so it will be interesting to see if there are any signs about EU funding for this castle. I have been there, but remember it only vaguely — I’m telling you, this thread is re-awakening my love of the Alentejo!
Marvão, which someone in another thread was complimenting in the last day or so, is another one that is very scary too. Quite like Óbidos.The worst one I’ve seen for safety in Portugal is Óbidos, so I wonder if the ramparts are off-limits there too. Despite the lack of guardrails, walking on the walls is such a highlight of being there.
In a few days we’ll come to Amarelos, which apparently has some kind of albergue. According to this article, it opened in May 2018 and had 9 pilgrims stay in 2018 and 24 in 2019.Do any of the places you’ve stayed or been stamped keep track of pilgrim numbers? It would be interesting to know how many have come before you and Wendy. Bom caminho, Laurie
As I learnt earlier you are looking for railway tracks, not only for those out-of-service.We ate our picnic lunch under this rail bridge, with wildflowers bursting out of the river.
Well I got up this morning in California and started reading your posts of this so-far wonderful camino from the beginning. Just a thank you for posting your detailed descriptions and splendid photographs! Tt has really set my weekend off on the right foot. Bom caminho!In a few days we’ll come to Amarelos, which apparently has some kind of albergue. According to this article, it opened in May 2018 and had 9 pilgrims stay in 2018 and 24 in 2019.
For future reference, jungleboy, that's a very nice little daytrip or quick over-nighter out of Lisboa. One commuter train Lisboa-Entroncamento; transfer to the little diesel-powered-passsenger car in Entronc; and off to Crato or Portalegre or Elvas. The cross-the-border bit to Badajoz was closed because of Covid; not sure if that bit has been restored yet.As I learnt earlier you are looking for railway tracks, not only for those out-of-service.
The bridge where you had your lunch bears the only railway line - actually still in service - connecting Badajoz (Spain) and Portalegre - Entroncamento - Lisbon (Portugal), once daily.
After crossing the railway two ancient roman bridges give safe a ground for pilgrim's pace.
Thanks again for all your commentary and the brilliant photos. It is a gorgeous part of the country.We have loved it. We have now walked about the same distance as Lisbon-Porto and I very much prefer the Nascente. If you like open spaces, lots of countryside, being off the beaten track, castles and small historical towns, different eras of history, and a bit of adventure/trailblazing, this is a brilliant choice.
Thank youThanks again for all your commentary and the brilliant photos. It is a gorgeous part of the country.
Are you still planning your original route as you continue north, now that you're climbing a bit out of the plains?
Thank you and enjoy the rest of your weekend!Well I got up this morning in California and started reading your posts of this so-far wonderful camino from the beginning. Just a thank you for posting your detailed descriptions and splendid photographs! Tt has really set my weekend off on the right foot. Bom caminho!
When I was marching there in spring 2019 the path was under construction and the surface was loose sand.The trail today was entirely on the eco path.
It’s sandy but not loose - easy to walk or cycle on. The difficult part is before Fronteira where for about 2km the path is ballast (rocks from the train line).When I was marching there in spring 2019 the path was under construction and the surface was loose sand.
Which surface is it now?
Gaaah. Not fun.The difficult part is before Fronteira where for about 2km the path is ballast (rocks from the train line).
Ballast...never heard the word before. Yep, that was what was used on the Primitivo on an unusually steep section under a stretch of powerlines. I barely managed staying up on my two feet without sliding on those deep, large course stones...so glad I had poles! I think that for me it was the scariest section on any Camino I've walked, and I wasn't even off-piste.It’s sandy but not loose - easy to walk or cycle on. The difficult part is before Fronteira where for about 2km the path is ballast (rocks from the train line).
That’s super interesting but again there are nomenclature issues arising from that document. What they’re referring to as the ‘Portuguese Eastern Route’ is exactly the Caminho Nascente and not the Caminho do Este / Raia.I was just looking up these two intrepid explorers' future route, as they continue north, and found this Unesco Heritage page discussing Portuguese caminho routes. It had some historical context that I hadn't come across before and thought others might enjoy reading it. It seems the ways have collectively been suggested for World Heritage Site status.
Bons caminhos e bons sonhos (dreams)!
Routes of Santiago de Compostela: Routes in Portugal - UNESCO World Heritage Centre
UNESCO World Heritage Centrewhc.unesco.org
Definitely. Remember that this document dates from 2017, back when the Portuguese government was starting the application process for Unesco Heritage. This would be before the Alentejo govt started getting serious about the caminhos. I know from my area here in Vancouver, Canada, where we are applying for an area to have a Unesco Biosphere Reserve, that working with Unesco is a multi-year project and no doubt involved plenty of research before they even applied, likely going back to 2014 or so.That’s super interesting but again there are nomenclature issues arising from that document.
One of the information boards even referenced the CPI as existing on the Tavira-Nisa-Viseu-Chaves axis,
Not just caminho routes, but most other tourist initiatives as well! Portuguese bureaucracy is notorious for this. And various ministries do not all have the same regional borders, and towns with traditional links have, at various times, been assigned within different regions all over the place...this is true near us, between Golega and Vila Nova da Barquinha, which are walking distance apart, and historically linked, but in entirely different administrative areas!Your anecdote about each district drawing their own routes and the routes not connecting made me chuckle. But you know, it sounds like the very same thing is happening now, not between two districts in the Alentejo, maybe, but between the Alentejo/Ribatejo and Beira/Douro/Minho, etc. and whatever else comes north. The map you posted in #12 shows that pretty well.
Mértola is a wonderful town. Does this Caminho go through it?Wendy and I are in Tavira on the Algarve coast of Portugal and we’re excited to begin walking the Caminho Nascente tomorrow!
Our original plan for this spring was to walk the Mozárabe/VdlP just after Easter, but that wasn’t possible because of restrictions in Spain and the Portugal/Spain border closure. We came up with a few other plans for Spain for later in the spring but in the end, there was too much uncertainty so we decided to just walk in Portugal instead. As was the case with our CP last autumn, a primarily Portuguese camino makes sense for us again in these COVID times because we already live here, we don’t need to travel far to get to/from the camino, we’re familiar with the current virus situation and restrictions (which have been largely lifted), we have public and private health insurance etc. So another Portuguese camino it is!
The Caminho Nascente is a recently created camino from Tavira to Trancoso that is about 500km in length (and not to be confused with the camino of the same name that links Fátima with the Camino de Santiago). Our plan is to switch from the Nascente to the Caminho do Este at Guarda, two stages from the end, and walk another week or so to Chaves and the border with Spain. If the border is open by then, we can link up with the Sanabrés to reach Santiago. If not, we will return home to Lisbon and we will have walked the length of Portugal, if nothing else!
There’s very little information available on this camino (e.g. just one thread on this forum out of 55,000+ total threads!) but we have found a couple of helpful sources that have allowed us to map out a rough stage plan. I’m not sure if the entire Nascente is way-marked but at least some sections are and I have GPS tracks on my phone as a backup. For accommodation, we’ll look into options a few days in advance while we’re walking. It wasn’t hard to book places for the first few days (mostly budget hotels plus one hostel) but I assume it will be a bit more difficult once we move into more remote areas.
Our first stage tomorrow is about 26km due east from Tavira to Vila Real de Santo António, just across the Guadiana river from Spain. From there we turn northwards for the long journey to (hopefully) Santiago.
I’ll provide updates here and photos on Instagram. As part of Wendy’s Galego learning project, she is going to vlog about the camino on her new YouTube channel: Wendy Speaks Galego.
Mértola is a wonderful town. Does this Caminho go through it?
I agree and yes it does. We had been to Mértola before for the Islamic Festival but took a rest day there on the camino to enjoy it again.Mértola is a wonderful town. Does this Caminho go through it?
Bom caminho! Hopefully less rain this timeI'm on the Way again from the 9th - picking off where I left off in Figuiera de Foz back in December 2020...
Thank you! It is indeed a great route but very undiscovered as you can tell - we are yet to see another pilgrim after nearly four weeks.I've spent an early morning catching up on your journey so far; beautifully told! Looking forward to more. It sounds like a great route. Happy trails!
Welcome to north of the Tejo!Caminho Nascente Day 26: Nisa to Vila Velha de Ródão (~21km).
Today was a milestone day because we crossed a are no longer in the Alentejo. After three weeks in this fabulous region, we are now in the Beiras, and more specifically the Baixa Beira... It hadn’t really occurred to us until a couple of days ago that we would have to cross the Tejo river, though of course that’s pretty obvious given that Alentejo means ‘Beyond the Tejo’ and the river therefore serves as the regional boundary.
Wonderful photos, Nick and Wendy. Thank you very much for this post. We loved walking along the Tejo valley north from Lisbon but this part of it looks beautiful.Caminho Nascente Day 26: Nisa to Vila Velha de Ródão (~21km).
Today was a milestone day because we crossed a are no longer in the Alentejo. After three weeks in this fabulous region, we are now in the Beiras, and more specifically the Baixa Beira.
With mountains nearby, today was the hilliest and most forested stage of this camino, and very different from all previous days in the Alentejo. Unfortunately it was overcast pretty much all morning (and rained a bit too, our 3rd day of rain out of 26). That was a real shame because we couldn’t enjoy the views as much as we would have if it had been sunnier.
But by the time we reached the highlight of the stage, the rain had stopped and it was more or less sunny. It hadn’t really occurred to us until a couple of days ago that we would have to cross the Tejo river, though of course that’s pretty obvious given that Alentejo means ‘Beyond the Tejo’ and the river therefore serves as the regional boundary.
It wasn’t just an ordinary river crossing, though, as the scenery is stunning here because of the ‘Portas de Ródão’ - giant rock formations on each side of the river. There’s also a medieval castle high atop one of these rock formations on the Beira side, traditionally said to have been built by the Visigothic king Wamba!
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At this point in the writing of this post, at about 5:15pm, I thought to myself, ‘I wonder how long it takes to hike up to the castle?’ Google said 1hr 17mins on the switchback road, but I figured there’d be a more direct path and decided to go for it! There was indeed a marked trail and in the end it was about 4km each way and totally worth it as the views were absolutely spectacular and I had the castle (just a tower) all to myself!
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The other thing you can do from Vila Velha de Ródão, the town on the Beira side of the river, is take a boat trip through the gates, but Monday is the boatman’s day off so unfortunately we missed out. Despite its name, Vila Velha is a modern town containing seemingly nothing of interest except its location - but the location is enough to make a visit very worthwhile!
Yes, we are using it. The official guide is a better resource but it only covers the Alentejo stages, so this app is about all we have for the rest of the Nascente. Some things are already out of date and stage descriptions are pretty limited but it’s better than nothing!I don't know if I missed this further up on the thread but are you using the app for this route and if you are is it any good?
Probably because those Alentejo tourism offices are the first ones off the mark, and got a good share of the government funding that's helping with the App, at least for this first year.Also it’s curious (and lucky for us) that of all the Portuguese routes, the Nascente is currently the only one that this app covers! Three other routes - the CP from Lisbon, the Torres and the CPI - are ‘coming soon’.
To complete these numbers since we are now here and have seen the register: 4 pilgrims stayed here in 2020 and 9 so far this year, including us. That makes 46 overall since May 2018, and we are the first ones with non-European nationalities (although that’s obviously a bit misleading).In a few days we’ll come to Amarelos, which apparently has some kind of albergue. According to this article, it opened in May 2018 and had 9 pilgrims stay in 2018 and 24 in 2019.
Yes, that will be interesting to monitor as we continue. So far the signage is still good and there are whispers of an albergue in a few days’ time!I suspect now that you've passed on to Beira Baixa from the Alentejo, the serious $$ and other support from the government tourism departments, national and district has kind of disappeared from the various towns' groups interested in popularizing the Caminho Nascente.
Curiosity killed the cat: why are you interested in things relating to the military orders? Why do I ask? Belicose interests frighten me. I do not intend this to be a bone of contention. Hindsight sheds a light on history and it will be helpful for me to get an insight into your reason for interest..Caminho Nascente Day 28: Amarelos to Castelo Branco (~14km).
Yet another short day, and unfortunately it wasn’t the best stage. In general, this has been a very rural camino but today it wasn’t. Most of the first half of the stage was on a dirt road either close to or alongside a major highway, which made it difficult to enjoy the pine/eucalyptus forests and distant mountains the way we did yesterday. Then the last 8km was on asphalt, starting with a secondary road with no traffic but also very close to the highway, and then passing through the industrial and commercial zones of Castelo Branco, and then the rest of the outskirts of town before finally reaching the historic centre. It was easily the longest town entrance on this camino.
So it wasn’t a great first impression but the town grew on us a bit during our afternoon exploration. There’s a castle (as you might expect) at the highest point in town and while there isn’t much left (two towers and some ramparts), it was built by the Knights Templar and I’m always interested in things relating to the military orders.
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There’s also a garden attached to the former bishop’s palace which has hedges, fountains and statues of Portuguese monarchs and other figures. We were the only people there and it was a fun place to wander around.
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Tomorrow we were going to walk 28km to Soalheira but the only accommodation is with the bombeiros and they are not housing pilgrims at the moment because of the pandemic. So instead we have another short day of about 15km, but this will allow us to stay in what looks like an interesting place (Castelo Novo) the day after that, and get back in sync with the normal stages the day after that. Only eight days left on the Nascente!
Pondering this question made the last 4km of today’s stage more contemplative than usual!Curiosity killed the cat: why are you interested in things relating to the military orders? Why do I ask? Belicose interests frighten me. I do not intend this to be a bone of contention. Hindsight sheds a light on history and it will be helpful for me to get an insight into your reason for interest..
Ooooh, Belmonte! The pousada is one of my favorites in Portugal, but it is out of town a ways and I’ll bet you won’t want to add the kms. When we were there, there was a small tour group of Americans who were on a “Jewish sites in Portugal” tour and we ate dinner with them in the Pousada. I can’t remember much of their itinerary except I am sure they were going to Castelo de Vide, where you might also be going!we want to arrive in Belmonte in time to see some of its attractions before they close so we’ll try to leave early.
Sounds like a good plan!For about 7 months I have messed around with possible start locations for my 24/25 days in August and September. I have found alternative starts to the Camino Torres, I have split up the definite days I have into two, 10-12 on the Caminho Geira and another route but for some reason I have have been reluctant to look at Castelo Branco as the start of s 24/25 day Camino to Santiago via the Geira, bit by bit you change that attitude.
Lots of hugs Peregrinos.
We thought about the pousada because we were considering a rest day in Belmonte tomorrow as it’s our wedding anniversary. But all the sites in Belmonte are closed on Monday so in the end it didn’t make much sense, and we’ll spend our anniversary in the albergue in Trinta instead!Ooooh, Belmonte! The pousada is one of my favorites in Portugal, but it is out of town a ways and I’ll bet you won’t want to add the kms.
You almost tempted me but since it’s on the camino, we’ll see it tomorrow morning. I always like a mystery Roman tower!I remember the mystery Roman tower on the edge of town and it is (or was) beautifully lit at night.
Thank you, only four days left on the Nascente now!Loving every bit of your posts! Bom caminho, Laurie
That is one beautiful cherry picture. I have had so many experiences like that, and yum yum yum, Iberian cherries are delicious!We passed some cherry plantations in the morning and made a cherry-picking rule that anything on the camino side of the fence was fair game.
And please do give me your theory on the mystery tower!
I'm willing to bet a Euro that the EU leaves such things up to local authorities. That said, there are rules in many places that allow a bit of foraging. If you're looking for a religious out, try Deuteonomy:I remember walking with a French peregrino who told me that under EU regulations, anything that hangs over or intrudes into the public right of way is up for grabs. So I think your cherry-picking rule is consistent with the law.
Wait till September when the figs are ripe!I'm willing to bet a Euro that the EU leaves such things up to local authorities. That said, there are rules in many places that allow a bit of foraging.
I love your dialogue, always well written.
Thank you to you both for your kind comments!Thank you @jungleboy - you really are a trailblazer for us. It sounds like this camino has all the elements to become very popular. I'm loving your posts.
With all the figs from our CP last September and cherries this spring we have been really spoiled on our two Portuguese caminos!Wait till September when the figs are ripe!
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