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You're lucky. Coffee is the first thing in the morning. The Portuguese prefer strong expresso in small cups. Around Porto they call it "uma bica"Maybe it's a stupid question but........how hard is it to get a cup of coffee in the morning on the CP coastal? If it's a rarity I need to start my withdrawals now.
Maybe you have been at the wrong place. In January past we were in several places in Spain and saw it everywhere.I used to work for several years in Spain and allways was astonished about the mess visitors of a bar left behind on the floor after consuming something.Ummm... spent a month in Galicia last year living with locals, and never saw anyone throw a napkin on the floor. Not once.
My wife and I like coffee a lot so I brought a jet boil coffee press along. Didn't weigh as much as the money we saved by not having to purchase coffee all the time.Maybe it's a stupid question but........how hard is it to get a cup of coffee in the morning on the CP coastal? If it's a rarity I need to start my withdrawals now.
It has nothing to do with any camino. It happens in all kind of bars where people drink their coffee , eat a croissant or churro or drink a glass of wine. And eat a tapa.I hadn't noticed the distinction. I didn't spend a lot of time in bars, as our hosts always had places to bring us (we got to go to Ons!). Also, I'm told that Galicia is very different from the rest of Spain, perhaps things are different there... I will certainly have to observe others doing it before I'm comfortable doing it myself, though. Seems so contrary to the other conversation I've been following about keeping the Camino clean!
Oh, they make a mess! I remember leaving one of the town on the Primitivo and walking in a bar for coffee, the place was a mess as it had not been cleaned yet from the night before. You see this also when people eat tapas.Ummm... spent a month in Galicia last year living with locals, and never saw anyone throw a napkin on the floor. Not once.
I'm kind of a coffee fanatic - I roast my own coffee beans and prepare espresso at home for myself, pour over for my wife and French press or Aeropress when traveling in our VW camper. HOWEVER, I took none of this equipmenr on my Camino in Fall 2014. For 7 weeks in Spain and Portugal I never failed to find coffee whenever I wanted it, whether a straight espresso or cafe americano solo with hot water added to the espresso shot to make something very similar to the standard (but tastier) cup of black coffee served at home. Add cream or sugar to your hearts content- there is always plenty of both available.
Ask for café descafinadoI can't drink caffeine because it gives me a headache, but I enjoy a good cup of decaf. Can I get a decaf cafe con leche everywhere, or should I carry my own packets of decaf and add them to hot milk in bars?
I think that all decaf coffee is from powder. Most bars probably have it (I don't know that from experience, but bars are well equipped for customer service with items like tea and Colacao).Can I get a decaf cafe con leche everywhere, or should I carry my own packets of decaf and add them to hot milk in bars?
Carrying a coffee maker to Portugal or Spain has got to be the most pointless exercise I have ever heard!
Like carrying coal to Newcastle, as we say I the UK.
Never had a problem obtaining a coffee.
...Unless you are walking the Camino Frances where there are many cafes that cater to pilgrims, you are likely to be in a part of Spain or Portugal where the hours of operation may not coincide with pilgrim demands. (And note that the OP is walking the Portuguese Coastal route). Most cafes in small towns on most other caminos don't open at least till 8 am. And to compound the problem, these other caminos don't have places to drink coffee every 5 or 10 km. When I walked the Levante, and since I like to leave early, I frequently would have had to walk 20+ km before my first coffee. No can do.
Oh, this is going to be one inexpensive Camino if I can't find a places 3 times a day to spend 2Euros on a cafe com leite.. And to compound the problem, these other caminos don't have places to drink coffee every 5 or 10 km. When I walked the Levante, and since I like to leave early, I frequently would have had to walk 20+ km before my first coffee. No can do.
65 eurocents per cup we paid last month in Portugal.Oh, this is going to be one inexpensive Camino if I can't find a places 3 times a day to spend 2Euros on a cafe com leite.
I hadn't noticed the distinction. I didn't spend a lot of time in bars, as our hosts always had places to bring us (we got to go to Ons!). Also, I'm told that Galicia is very different from the rest of Spain, perhaps things are different there... I will certainly have to observe others doing it before I'm comfortable doing it myself, though. Seems so contrary to the other conversation I've been following about keeping the Camino clean!
Aeropress is cheap, low-tech and very light to pack. Hand grinder is cylindrical and fits perfectly into the Aeropress top cylinder. I will need a microwave to nuke the milk and a kettle to nuke the water. That's my last post about that, I'm starting to sound like a fanatic.
Hi Jeff, I use a stainless steel mesh filter. Paper a nuisance (I can taste it) and the steel one works perfectly well. At home I use a sunbeam grinder but I bought a little porlex grinder for travel. Pretty obviously designed to slide right into the top cylinder of the Aeropress. Adjustable ceramic grinding elements and very cheap. The lettering all over the box is Japanese. URL is www.porlex.co.jp importers online somewhere - I bought mine from an importer near here in The Blue Mountains west of Sydney, Oz. Here's a video demo on YouTubeYou're not a fanatic - you've seen the light and it tasted GOOD!
BTW which grinder and do you use paper filters or washable mesh?
Oh I like THAT - top man! Thanks.Hi Jeff, I use a stainless steel mesh filter. Paper a nuisance (I can taste it) and the steel one works perfectly well. At home I use a sunbeam grinder but I bought a little prolex grinder for travel. Pretty obviously designed to slide right into the top cylinder of the Aeropress. Adjustable ceramic grinding elements and very cheap. The lettering all over the box is Japanese. URL is www.porlex.co.jp importers online somewhere - I bought mine from an importer near here in The Blue Mountains west of Sydney, Oz. Here's a video demo on YouTubeNice of you to ask - Buen Camino. - Mike
I carry an Aeropress on all my business trips, because there is no such thing as good hotel room coffee. However, the coffee in Spanish bars and restaurants is generally better than anything the Aeropress can produce (IMO). There were exceptions, but those were very rare. Hence, for me, it's not worth the nominal weight.Aeropress is cheap, low-tech and very light to pack. Hand grinder is cylindrical and fits perfectly into the Aeropress top cylinder. I will need a microwave to nuke the milk and a kettle to nuke the water. That's my last post about that, I'm starting to sound like a fanatic.
Ah, don't forget we have to carry a crusader cup, flint and steel or firebow, tinder, kindling and a fire extinguisher for when your rucksack catches alight . . . but it's WORTH it!Wow, I feel like a minimalist in survival mode compared to you guys -- with my plastic cup, instant coffee, and electric coil. Amazing.
It's how you tell a good bar by the amount of paper on the floor.Ummm... spent a month in Galicia last year living with locals, and never saw anyone throw a napkin on the floor. Not once.
What is the weight of this equipment ?Hi Jeff, I use a stainless steel mesh filter. Paper a nuisance (I can taste it) and the steel one works perfectly well. At home I use a sunbeam grinder but I bought a little porlex grinder for travel. Pretty obviously designed to slide right into the top cylinder of the Aeropress. Adjustable ceramic grinding elements and very cheap. The lettering all over the box is Japanese. URL is www.porlex.co.jp importers online somewhere - I bought mine from an importer near here in The Blue Mountains west of Sydney, Oz. Here's a video demo on YouTubeNice of you to ask - Buen Camino. - Mike
Hi Albertinho, Sorry I'm a while getting back to you, I've been away from my computer for a while.What is the weight of this equipment ?
Thank you Mike for your extended explanation. How many beans you take with you to cover your coffee needs during your camino ?Hi Albertinho, Sorry I'm a while getting back to you, I've been away from my computer for a while.
The Aeropress (without the stirring paddle and the funnel, which are bulky to travel with) and the little Porlex grinder weigh a total of 462 grams. So that's almost exactly 1 pound. The Aeropress and the grinder are very compact - as I said previously the grinder fits into the top cylinder of the Aeropress. There's a crank handle for the grinder which just slots onto a lug at the top when you're ready to crank. The crank handle is a loose item, I'm going to get a big rubber band and lash the crank handle to the Aeropress to pack it for travel so it doesn't get lost. I'll travel with the kit in a bubble wrap bag, probably. The grinder works perfectly well. It takes a while to crank through some beans, but it works so well that its well worth getting good quality, very fresh roasted beans. I can make coffee that's as good as most espresso machines in Sydney here, and the standard of coffee in Sydney is world-class. There's no crema from the Aeropress, though. And you have to experiment with the grind size to get the best flavour. - Buen Camino, Mike
Ironically, I probably won't be making my own coffee very often while on the Camino! It probably won't be convenient. I will be staying in Madrid for a week before and in Paris for a month after the Camino. It will be easier to use the Aeropress while in an AirBNB apartment than on the Camino, I expect. I'll see.Thank you Mike for your extended explanation. How many beans you take with you to cover your coffee needs during your camino ?
I watched a video on You Tube ; somebody demonstrated the aeropress and the grinder.It looks great.
Bom caminho.
So about an extra 700 odd grams you are carrying. Maybe better to forward the set to Ivar in Santiago by post as soon as you are in Madrid and pick it up when you arrive in Santiago and use the set in Paris .Ironically, I probably won't be making my own coffee very often while on the Camino! It probably won't be convenient. I will be staying in Madrid for a week before and in Paris for a month after the Camino. It will be easier to use the Aeropress while in an AirBNB apartment than on the Camino, I expect. I'll see.
However, I will take a 250 gram bag of beans which is what I buy at home. When I run out, I'll see when that is and whether I can find some fresh roasted beans while on the Camino! At home 250 grams lasts me maybe a week and a half. Carrying any more than 250 grams is too bulky. At home I keep my beans in a sealed canister at room temperature, never in the fridge. I think that beans carried every day in a ziplock bag wouldn't last very well. This is my first Camino - I'll have to experiment.
Buen Camino
I'll be on The Frances. I will certainly taste the coffee along the way. I can't drink black coffee because of a sensitive stomach. Maybe I'm being unfair but for some reason I'm expecting Spanish coffee to be very strong. There's only one way to find out, I guess. While I'm in Madrid I'll decide on what to do. I'll start walking March 26th from SJPDP and get to Santiago D.C. first week in May, so not in sync with your timing. I could have bought you a coffee! - Mike.So about an extra 700 odd grams you are carrying. Maybe better to forward the set to Ivar in Santiago by post as soon as you are in Madrid and pick it up when you arrive in Santiago and use the set in Paris .
Which camino are you following ? The Francès or the Portuguese ? Or another one..?
Alternative is buy a cup of coffee at a bar or restaurant. Saves you some weight.
I walked the camino 3 times and the 4th time is ahead coming May but allways got our coffee somewhere. I was wondering if this system works out during the walking. It takes room and adds weight to your backpack.
" All what you do not take is an advantage "
Buen camino
In Spain ask for a "café con leche " (with milk) which is not that strong .I'll be on The Frances. I will certainly taste the coffee along the way. I can't drink black coffee because of a sensitive stomach. Maybe I'm being unfair but for some reason I'm expecting Spanish coffee to be very strong. There's only one way to find out, I guess. While I'm in Madrid I'll decide on what to do. I'll start walking March 26th from SJPDP and get to Santiago D.C. first week in May, so not in sync with your timing. I could have bought you a coffee! - Mike.
I'll second what Albertinho said - you'll like the cafe con leche in Spain. Smooth, not acidic at all.I'll be on The Frances. I will certainly taste the coffee along the way. I can't drink black coffee because of a sensitive stomach. Maybe I'm being unfair but for some reason I'm expecting Spanish coffee to be very strong. There's only one way to find out, I guess. ...Mike.
You're lucky. Coffee is the first thing in the morning. The Portuguese prefer strong expresso in small cups. Around Porto they call it "uma bica"
Everywhere in the towns and villages are bars to get your coffee.
We like cappuccino but never ask for that nor in Portugal, nor in Spain. In spite of impressive coffee machines you see, you get cold milk in your coffee or cream from an aerosol . Instead ask for café com leite in Portugal or in Spain café con leche , coffee with hot milk as an alternative.
If you want real cappuccino, go to Italy .
If you do like black coffee ask in Portugal for café preto and in Spain café solo or café Americano.
Decaf is called café descafinado.
In Spain at the bar are small napkins to clean your mouth after drinking your coffee and eating a churro(a kind of fried dough) . Throw this napkin on the floor after using . This is a traditional habit.
In Portugal order a pastel de nata with your coffee. Once you taste one, you allways want to turn back to Portugal. They are toooo delicious !
Bom caminho.
Hi Jeff, I use a stainless steel mesh filter. Paper a nuisance (I can taste it) and the steel one works perfectly well. At home I use a sunbeam grinder but I bought a little porlex grinder for travel. Pretty obviously designed to slide right into the top cylinder of the Aeropress. Adjustable ceramic grinding elements and very cheap. The lettering all over the box is Japanese. URL is www.porlex.co.jp importers online somewhere - I bought mine from an importer near here in The Blue Mountains west of Sydney, Oz. Here's a video demo on YouTubeNice of you to ask - Buen Camino. - Mike
Jeff, There's never too much good coffee in the world. I have a very good conical burr grinder at home and the little porlex did such a good job that it tasted pretty much the same. A bit of a workout, as you have discovered. But at least I won't be cranking that thing with my feet, I'll save them for walking. - MikeHi Mike,
Got one and it's great. Tried it on the bean version of my normal ground brand of coffee - SO much richer in flavour!
Forever in you debt!
Cheers!
How would I ask for a Flat White short in Portuguese? Or cafe com liette with extra shot?
I am thinking about one of those electric coil thingies - two boiled eggs and a nice cuppa! Although I will say that European instant coffee IS a lot better than Via or any other instant in the USA
Janice
I was thinking of Nescafe Clasico or Gold (can't remember which) But the Nescafe in the UK is better than what you find in USA. It had same name (blend) different label, but it did not taste the same at all. Just like Cadbury chocolate - the stuff marketed for USA is not the same. For sure don't like Via - bought a box and returned it few days ago. But I mostly am a tea drinker and enjoy espresso when I'm out and about and can't get a decent cuppa.What brands are you talking about Janice? I find that the instant coffee available in Spain is the pretty unremarkable Nescafé. Have you found something else? I usually bring over 250 g of a good instant coffee my international foods store sells (can't remember if it's German, Greek, etc.) and then just buy Nescafé as the replacement, but I notice a decline in quality. Would love to find some better options, though truth be told, I am more interested in the caffeine than the taste at 6 am. Buen camino, Laurie
Hi Jeff,Hi Mike,
Got one and it's great. Tried it on the bean version of my normal ground brand of coffee - SO much richer in flavour!
Forever in you debt!
Cheers!
Hi Mike,Hi Jeff,
I've been in Madrid for a few days, I'll soon be on my way to Saint Jean PDP. I've been using the coffee rig as described and it's working perfectly. I bought some beans just around the corner at the Toma Cafe - turns out it's one of the highest rated cafes in town. I'm glad you enjoyed the Aeropress/Porlex.
Mike
Hi Jeff,
I've been in Madrid for a few days, I'll soon be on my way to Saint Jean PDP. I've been using the coffee rig as described and it's working perfectly. I bought some beans just around the corner at the Toma Cafe - turns out it's one of the highest rated cafes in town. I'm glad you enjoyed the Aeropress/Porlex.
Mike
Ummm... spent a month in Galicia last year living with locals, and never saw anyone throw a napkin on the floor. Not once.
If you prefer not to have the Nescafe packet, try asking for "Sin cafeina, de la maquina."I can't drink caffeine because it gives me a headache, but I enjoy a good cup of decaf. Can I get a decaf cafe con leche everywhere, or should I carry my own packets of decaf and add them to hot milk in bars?