- Time of past OR future Camino
- Frances 15,16,18
VdlP 23, Invierno 23, Fisterra 23
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Hmm. Might have to look at that area.My advice is to buy an appartement in Gijon, large enough to welcome pilgrims: currently, this is nearly impossible to find cheap accommodation in this town !
Thanks for that.A dream which I'm sure a few of us share.
You could contact these guys for answers to many of your questions, I'm sure there are plenty of other examples.
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Interesting thoughts...
If you want to be close to an international airport your choices would be more or less limited to Barcelona and Madrid. Both expensive cities. And also getting more and more restrictive to airbnb kind of constructions, because of overtourism and housing problems. Barcelona even wants to ban airbnb by 2026 (if I recall well).
Salamanca might be an interesting option. Certainly a lot more affordable than Madrid. León maybe? Central location for many Caminos. High speed train to Madrid, so rather accesible to an international airport. Same counts for Oviedo and Gijón (though you would have to travel a bit longer). I think I would look along the lines of the AVE-network. Maybe also good options along the Santiago - Madrid connection. There is (for some incomprehensible reason) an AVE-station in A Gudiña, if you would prefer countryside.
A Coruña? I have nothing helpful to add about the rest. But do wonder about a visa?
There is a recent law that set 3/5 of the neighbourhood community to prohibit the possibility of " piso turistico". It is easier to find that possibility in the coast.2. AirBnB ability. Here in Australia many apartment buildings (maybe most?) do not allow them to be used as AirBnB type 'short term' accommodation. I wonder if it's the same in Spain?
There are no current restrictions on who can and cannot buy a property, (EU not necessary) you simply need a NIE (foreigner registration number basically), and it's strongly suggested that you open a local bank account.Nice idea.
I'm eligible for an Irish Passport. (EU)
That might help?
Would need to get advice on that.
Or at least on Foreign ownership.
90 days a year would be plenty.
Hi mate.Bit of wishful thinking here.
We were looking at our options over lunch today.
I'd love to retire, but can't unfortunately.
But I can work remotely.
And ease back my working hours a bit.
I'm hoping to walk a fair few more Caminos before age and ill health catches up with me.
So living in Spain for a few months each year is a possibility.
Potentially we could downsize here, and buy a small apartment/studio somewhere fairly central, and take breaks of a few days from work to go walk different Caminos.
Perhaps renting it out as an AirBnB when we are not there could help defray some of the costs? (or booking com)
I know quite a few members here have moved to Spain from elsewhere, or have always lived in Spain.
Any thoughts or advice would be most appreciated.
Questions that came up in our lunch discussion were........
1. Where to be based? Probably fairly close to International Airports (2-3 hours) or at least main line rail. We are not beach people. More into mountains and countryside. But it probably makes sense for a 'base' to be in a major town/city. Thoughts were Madrid, Salamanca, (been to those) Toledo?
2. AirBnB ability. Here in Australia many apartment buildings (maybe most?) do not allow them to be used as AirBnB type 'short term' accommodation. I wonder if it's the same in Spain?
3. Property Management. Given we are in Australia, I wonder who we could lean on for managing the property? Here in Australia there are companies that do it, for long term rentals. But short term? Ideally they would also manage the bookings as well as take care of the property. (edit. Looks like there are AirBnB 'co-hosts', who do this for a %)
Just some random thoughts, that might allow me to 'semi' retire and walk some more Caminos at least.
Comments or advice always appreciated.
Yet another hare brained scheme maybe?
Hi mate.
My partner and I have been looking at properties in Spain over the last couple of years and spending months at a time in possible locations.
We netted out at Valencia or Andalucia. Valencia is a great city. I fell in with an expat group there, mainly USA folks, and they were all very happy with their choice. Obv it is very connected transport wise. All the benefits of a city without the costs and plenty of good public transport. Beach close, great arts centre and lots of bands tour.
Re Andalucia - I guess Cordoba was the winner though no beach! Cadiz was attractive too though we only were there for a few days which is no time to judge! I think buying a property in Andalucia attracts smaller property purchase taxes, though you hear lots of stories about very harsh laws on repossession and so forth. For example if a property has a debt against it, in some regions, you inherit the debt. You need a good lawyer and not the one the estate agent recommends! Plenty of airports about and lots of good bus and train connections.
I recently spent three weeks in Coruna and liked it but you need good weather! I don’t like the cold so wouldn’t live in north.
I would the recommend you subscribe to the The Local and get a daily feed from it. It has everything you could ever wish to know about moving to Spain.
Something for you to pass away some time on. Top of the list is €1.27m which is likely cheap by Australian standards (if my sisters are to be believed)
Sure, understood, we are all different. My main advice would be to try and spend a bit of time in any town you choose to buy in. Being in a place for a few days as a tourist is very different to be being somewhere for a few months. I don’t really regard the Camino as ‘authentic Spain’ in the sense than you are part of an international community passing through. It’s a very different feeling being in a fixed location, for a few months. That’s been our key finding anyway.Sounds great. Though Beaches and Bands are not really our thing
We live in Sydney Australia, surrounded by glorious beaches. But never go there.......different folks?
We do sail though........
Love water, just no desire to be in it. Too many things that bite LOL
Cordoba sounds good!
I would recommend a smaller town in easy reach of Madrid or Barcelona. You can always visit the city for a few days when you want to.
I was thinking about that too. I like Zamora and thought of there.
But it doesn't have much of a Plaza Mayor.
We like to hang out eating and people watching.
I loved the Plaza Mayor in Salamanca for example.
For us it would be a pity to spend time in a smaller town, given the travel cost from Australia etc, only to have to travel and have additional accommodation expense, visiting the places we would rather be in.
For example, I'd rather live in a small studio, a 10 minute walk from the Plaza Mayor in Salamanca, where I could wander down for a coffee or a long lunch during work breaks, than live in a 2 bed apartment or house in a small city, waiting for the weekend to travel somewhere else.
All about trade offs I guess, and what we enjoy about our surroundings.
We often laugh about where we live in Sydney.
I used to be a bit embarrassed when people asked where we live!
It's considered a lower cost area with a lot of immigrants.
But we love it! It has everything we need.
We're close to all the things we like.
Great places to eat, with virtually every cuisine you can think of. Nice parks.
Easy access to the countryside.
The 'fancy' expensive end of town is near the CBD (downtown) / Beaches and other places we don't really go to.......
Where would I go to in a city in Spain?
The Plaza Mayor, the 'old centre'.
Great food, architecture, people watching.
Córdoba sounds good for autunm and winter.Cordoba sounds good!
Sure, understood, we are all different. My main advice would be to try and spend a bit of time in any town you choose to buy in. Being in a place for a few days as a tourist is very different to be being somewhere for a few months. I don’t really regard the Camino as ‘authentic Spain’ in the sense than you are part of an international community passing through. It’s a very different feeling being in a fixed location. For a few months.
I would agree, if that is what we are looking for.But living in a smaller town you could get actively involved in the local community.
This might not be the answer you been looking for:
I do have some personal experience from my family with property in Spain. I feel that if you want to make it work, you either have to be super smart about it, put in a lot of money to have someone do it for you or put in a lot of effort by doing the required things yourself. It can become a burden. Even if you get people or an agency to do the work for you, nothing guarantees that they wont mess things up. Then you need to let them go, find someone new... the works.
I would hate to be tied down to that.
If i was to spend a couple of months a year in Spain, i'd rather rent. Yes, this will feel like spending money instead of investing money, but with the money spend, you make your problems someone elses problems. And worst case, you rent a place you hate, you rent somewhere else next time.
Consider that you won't be the first person with the idea of co-financing their holiday home with renting it out. People have been doing that for decades. Yes, it can work, but it can also fail. Won't be easier when you're on the other side of the world.Yes, good points, and that was my initial idea.
It's certainly the logical approach.
I suppose being able to AirBnB it to offset the costs was the attraction.
Not sure we could afford to rent 2 months a year.
But I'll do the numbers.
Good point, but I could argue with that (living in Asturias, Spain for almost 7 years now).This might not be the answer you been looking for:
I do have some personal experience from my family with property in Spain. I feel that if you want to make it work, you either have to be super smart about it, put in a lot of money to have someone do it for you or put in a lot of effort by doing the required things yourself. It can become a burden. Even if you get people or an agency to do the work for you, nothing guarantees that they wont mess things up. Then you need to let them go, find someone new... the works.
I would hate to be tied down to that.
If i was to spend a couple of months a year in Spain, i'd rather rent. Yes, this will feel like spending money instead of investing money, but with the money spend, you make your problems someone elses problems. And worst case, you rent a place you hate, you rent somewhere else next time.
Consider that you won't be the first person with the idea of co-financing their holiday home with renting it out. People have been doing that for decades. Yes, it can work, but it can also fail. Won't be easier when you're on the other side of the world.
Indeed - Idealista very much the app for property in Spain!I was still in the market to buy after I sold my apartment in Biarritz. My plan was to move the Algarve. For the past year I have been using IDEALISTA to research properties on the market. If you narrow down you options to one or two areas, you can get notices every day of new properties that are available for sale in your chosen price range and square meter range. They send about 3 options each day which includes the real estate agent's information.
Yes I've been using that.I was still in the market to buy after I sold my apartment in Biarritz. My plan was to move the Algarve. For the past year I have been using IDEALISTA to research properties on the market. If you narrow down you options to one or two areas, you can get notices every day of new properties that are available for sale in your chosen price range and square meter range. They send about 3 options each day which includes the real estate agent's information.
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