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I know there are a million threads on this and I don't want to hijack yours, but I use wax earplugs in albergues and I can't hear a thing when I put them in. While I realise that these might not work as well for everyone, it would be a shame if people were avoiding albergues solely for this reason when there may be a very simple fix. FWIW, I find foam earplugs to be worthless.but I can't stand the snoring.
I know there are a million threads on this and I don't want to hijack yours, but I use wax earplugs in albergues and I can't hear a thing when I put them in. While I realise that these might not work as well for everyone, it would be a shame if people were avoiding albergues solely for this reason when there may be a very simple fix. FWIW, I find foam earplugs to be worthless.
Bad Pilgrim, this is oh so good. A scathingly brilliant idea, I too would love toI walked my annual Camino de Invierno
I know! The distance plaque is striking in its absence.no mojón has been damaged/defaced - except one. I think you can guess which one.
I would really like to hear about wild animal attacks too though....Dear people,
I walked my annual Camino de Invierno between the 11 and the 18 of July this year (2022). I kept a diary of which I publish a summary below. You will get it in bits because it is too long to read… Expletives, wild animals attacks and revelling in napolitanas have been left out. First a few general notes and a comparison with last year's Invierno:
Kilometers: The distance to Santiago is now engraved on the mojones (the granite waymarks). The distance was not there last year (beginning of July 2021). Everything looks brand new and no mojón has been damaged/defaced - except one. I think you can guess which one. We will get to that later.
Embellishment: The Xunta and/or the villagers really stepped up since last year. The places where the Camino goes have been prettified. One example: there is now a Pilgrim's Bench, Banco peregrino, in several villages and hamlets. It is a large, yellow bench in the shape of an arrow; you will see them when you walk by. There are more info boards, waymarks, signs, quirky handicraft, flowerpots and what have you to emphasize the Camino, especially in the small villages. There is also a sense of general cleanup. Above all, a cleanup of dogs. I imagine the Xunta ushered an order to the villagers to chain the dogs, lock them up, or deport them to the Castilian border. I only met aggressive dogs before Quiroga and Belesar, nowhere else.
Wildfires? I was lucky not to experience any of it. Less than a week later (July 18) I see the Valdeorras region, Quiroga and Pobra do Brollón having problems. Trains between Galicia and Madrid have been cancelled or substituted with other means of transport. Watch the news and ask the locals if the Camino de Invierno is affected, if you are walking any time soon!
But let's get down to business.
Day 0: Ponferrada. I arrived with the night bus from Mérida at 9.30 a.m. I stayed at Hostal Río Selmo, 35 euros. The cheapest alternatives are of course the albergues San Nicolás de Flüe (parochial), Alea (private) and Guiana (private) but I can't stand the snoring. Guiana has an amazing breakfast (in 2018 when I stayed there) if you are into those kinds of things. I spent large part of the day in the cafés in the old town watching pilgrims arrive. They wear their bathroom, kitchen and livingroom on their backs, and judging by their boots they plan to walk through the Amazon jungle. I got tendonitis just by looking at them. I wanted to run some errands to Decathlon. But it was Sunday and it was closed, as was much of the rest of town… I went to bed early to be well rested before my first stage the following day.
To be continued
Is this referring to Peregrin@s after too many Estrella de Galicias?I would really like to hear about wild animal attacks too though....
Oh boy! Can't wait to read about your impressions.To be continued
Tell me about aggressive dogs?Dear people,
I walked my annual Camino de Invierno between the 11 and the 18 of July this year (2022). I kept a diary of which I publish a summary below. You will get it in bits because it is too long to read… Expletives, wild animal attacks and revelling in napolitanas have been left out. First a few general notes and a comparison with last year's Invierno:
Kilometers: The distance to Santiago is now engraved on the mojones (the granite waymarks). The distance was not there last year (beginning of July 2021). Everything looks brand new and no mojón has been damaged/defaced - except one. I think you can guess which one. We will get to that later.
Embellishment: The Xunta and/or the villagers really stepped up since last year. The places where the Camino goes have been prettified. One example: there is now a Pilgrim's Bench, Banco peregrino, in several villages and hamlets. It is a large, yellow bench in the shape of an arrow; you will see them when you walk by. There are more info boards, waymarks, signs, quirky handicraft, flowerpots and what have you to emphasize the Camino, especially in the small villages. There is also a sense of general cleanup. Above all, a cleanup of dogs. I imagine the Xunta ushered an order to the villagers to chain the dogs, lock them up, or deport them to the Castilian border. I only met aggressive dogs before Quiroga and Belesar, nowhere else.
Wildfires? I was lucky not to experience any of it. Less than a week later (July 18) I see the Valdeorras region, Quiroga and Pobra do Brollón having problems. Trains between Galicia and Madrid have been cancelled or substituted with other means of transport. Watch the news and ask the locals if the Camino de Invierno is affected, if you are walking any time soon!
But let's get down to business.
Day 0: Ponferrada. I arrived with the night bus from Mérida at 9.30 a.m. I stayed at Hostal Río Selmo, 35 euros. The cheapest alternatives are of course the albergues San Nicolás de Flüe (parochial), Alea (private) and Guiana (private) but I can't stand the snoring. Guiana has an amazing breakfast (in 2018 when I stayed there) if you are into those kinds of things. I spent large part of the day in the cafés in the old town watching pilgrims arrive. They wear their bathroom, kitchen and livingroom on their backs, and judging by their boots they plan to walk through the Amazon jungle. I got tendonitis just by looking at them. I wanted to run some errands to Decathlon. But it was Sunday and it was closed, as was much of the rest of town… I went to bed early to be well rested before my first stage the following day.
To be continued
Tell me about aggressive dogs?
Were they tied up?
I hate that. Had one incident on Primitivo, where a dog had me stuck next to a farmhouse, could not move back or forward. I just stood there for 15 mins with dog growling and gnashing teeth, spurred on by 2 aggressive tied up mates. Luckily a group of pilgrims with big walking sticks came and we managed to pass as a group.There were aggressive dogs and loose dogs - just not at the same time! Yes if they were barking they were tied up or behind a fence. Maybe it was just the day that I walked by and other pilgrims will have another experience...
When I say Quiroga and Belesar it was just the usual stuff: they behaved aggressively but nothing more happened!
By any chance, were there two smallish loose dogs at the top of the hill after Belesar? Those were the only problem ones I encountered on the Invierno in May.Belesar
By any chance, were there two smallish loose dogs at the top of the hill after Belesar? Those were the only problem ones I encountered on the Invierno in May.
I encountered the same dogs there in May 2022, but there were 4 of them. Angry dogs were a regular nuisance on the InviernoBy any chance, were there two smallish loose dogs at the top of the hill after Belesar? Those were the only problem ones I encountered on the Invierno in May.
So happy to read your journey @Bad Pilgrim , as I hope do it after the Madrid in September. Looking forward to hearing if there is now an Albergue at A Pobra de Bollón?
Then it is likely to be Salcedo for me!Gronze says there probably will be this year, but who knows ... I forgot to ask them, since I had my mind set on Monforte. There is zero accomodation in A Pobra according to Gronze. As soon as there is an albergue, I know Gronze will update the page!
You are a magnet for screaming children. I’ve stayed at the Quiper 3 or 4 times and have never even seen anyone go in or out of the albergue. Glad you took the non-albergue option!As usual there was a mob of malignant school children and anemic teachers at the Albergue de Quiroga, and in the rest of town.
Before entering Monforte de Lemos there are now two alternatives and an info panel: left or right. I took the right alternative that would be shorter but also have more "scenic value" (valor paisajístico).
I know some people have found there to be a lot — here is one pilgrim’s opinion. But I can’t think of one stage that is primarily asphalt. There have been some re-routings (@C clearly recently described one going into A Rúa) and after A Rúa there was a lot taken off road the last time I walked. Maybe I am less aware of it now that I am walking in trail runners and the asphalt doesn’t beat up on my feet as much. Or maybe it was that there were dirt shoulders along a lot of the roads. But in any event, it doesn’t jump out at me like it does on the Norte. Surely there’s nothing like the many kms the Norte has along the national highway. On the Invierno you’re usually many kms away from a national highway, so the roads are minor and untraveled, which makes a difference.I hope to walk it in September. Just a real wimpy question....is there much asphalt walking on the Invierno?
Have you ever gone to the Casa Aroza for a great meal?
Does this have anything to do with avoiding the spot through the green tunnel that is permanently flooded
is there much asphalt walking on the Invierno?
But I can’t think of one stage that is primarily asphalt.
Thanks for this. Looking forward to reading more!!Dear people,
I walked my annual Camino de Invierno between the 11 and the 18 of July this year (2022). I kept a diary of which I publish a summary below. You will get it in bits because it is too long to read… Expletives, wild animal attacks and revelling in napolitanas have been left out. First a few general notes and a comparison with last year's Invierno:
Kilometers: The distance to Santiago is now engraved on the mojones (the granite waymarks). The distance was not there last year (beginning of July 2021). Everything looks brand new and no mojón has been damaged/defaced - except one. I think you can guess which one. We will get to that later.
Embellishment: The Xunta and/or the villagers really stepped up since last year. The places where the Camino goes have been prettified. One example: there is now a Pilgrim's Bench, Banco peregrino, in several villages and hamlets. It is a large, yellow bench in the shape of an arrow; you will see them when you walk by. There are more info boards, waymarks, signs, quirky handicraft, flowerpots and what have you to emphasize the Camino, especially in the small villages. There is also a sense of general cleanup. Above all, a cleanup of dogs. I imagine the Xunta ushered an order to the villagers to chain the dogs, lock them up, or deport them to the Castilian border. I only met aggressive dogs before Quiroga and Belesar, nowhere else.
Wildfires? I was lucky not to experience any of it. Less than a week later (July 18) I see the Valdeorras region, Quiroga and Pobra do Brollón having problems. Trains between Galicia and Madrid have been cancelled or substituted with other means of transport. Watch the news and ask the locals if the Camino de Invierno is affected, if you are walking any time soon!
But let's get down to business.
Day 0: Ponferrada. I arrived with the night bus from Mérida at 9.30 a.m. I stayed at Hostal Río Selmo, 35 euros. The cheapest alternatives are of course the albergues San Nicolás de Flüe (parochial), Alea (private) and Guiana (private) but I can't stand the snoring. Guiana has an amazing breakfast (in 2018 when I stayed there) if you are into those kinds of things. I spent large part of the day in the cafés in the old town watching pilgrims arrive. They wear their bathroom, kitchen and livingroom on their backs, and judging by their boots they plan to walk through the Amazon jungle. I got tendonitis just by looking at them. I wanted to run some errands to Decathlon. But it was Sunday and it was closed, as was much of the rest of town… I went to bed early to be well rested before my first stage the following day.
To be continued
But I bet the couple who run it remembered you and you probably got your ear talked off by the chatty Señora!I ended up in Hostal Niza again: 25 euros. A bit too expensive, I think. But it is ok. No AC, no fan. I didn't sleep much during the tropical night.
Thanks for that. I have always worn hiking boots or shoes, so perhaps it's time to change footwear! Any brand you would recommend?
@Bad Pilgrim did you or anyone else stay in the newish A Posa de Asma Albergue in the past? That place you stayed in Dpaso looks fantastic!
Sounds lovely, did you get breakfast?I haven't stayed at A Pousa do Asma but when I read the description and the reviews it sounds a lot like DPaso. When I see the pictures it looks like A Pousa has the usual bunkbeds together in one dormitory, while DPaso has a kind of sleeping pods (two beds/pods in each '"room") which gives you more privacy. I was alone in my department with the two beds, so it was almost like an individual room!
Sounds lovely, did you get breakfast?
As usual there was a mob of malignant school children and anemic teachers at the Albergue de Quiroga, and in the rest of town. José said he could stay at the albergue anyway "because I have earplugs". Honey child… In the end he stayed at Quiper.
I met neither kids not shepherd. Blessed on one hand, and hoping to meet the latter on the other! And Casimiro too, at prettified Montefurado.And as always, on my way down, I met the farmer with his two nice dogs and a sea of cows and calves on the road. I
Oh! Wonderful news. I really liked Chantada, and think next time to do a nice slow amble, Monforte-Torre Vilarino-Diomondi-Chantada. I loved this whole part of the Invierno and am happy there are now ways to linger here.ostal/albergue DPaso.
Oh, so sad. This was beautiful in its own way.Appalling, ghastly....
I was heartbroken, devastated.
Soon nature will start covering the wounds we make. Look at Las Medulas. Can you imagine how awful it would have looked when the mining was happening? And next to this a forest fire is nothing. We just have to wait a little while.it may be that the Invierno is going to have a scorched earth look for the foreseeable future. This is so sad.
Yes as others have said, but usually there was hardly any traffic, and a softer shoulder to walk on.is there much asphalt
I am glad to have experienced this in all its glory, and to have come through unscathed.No, if you are talking about the previous muddy section before Reigada. This section is long gone now.
They just like you @Bad Pilgrim. Sounds like a reason to go back more often, if you ask me (I know, you didn't). But next time maybe avoid that place in Santiago, of course. Sounds like a crummy end to a wonderful camino. Til next time...!I think I will have to give the Invierno a rest next year. It is embarrassing when people start to recognize you along the way. For example Tattooed Girl in Sobradelo ("You've been here before, right? Like… a lot"), Old Lady in A Rúa ("Ooh you came back!") or Mr Funnyman in Carpinteiras ("Oh it's you again!"). Well, one day they will have to see me again because I always come back to the Invierno!
So just wondering - was there no mud after Rodeiro because it's been dry or have they 'improved' the camino (I so hope it's not the latter)?
Oh, good.I don't think they have done any improvements, not that I could see.
Loved this place. Right on the Camino. Maika the hospitalera is most hospitable. Everything brand new, great blankets, free towel & washer dryer are free. Heated floors, kitchen, great showers, multiple full bathrooms. Code to get in. Great WiFi. Bar next door on corner is open early for breakfast and the guy was a fellow Cuban.@Bad Pilgrim did you or anyone else stay in the newish A Posa de Asma Albergue in the past? That place you stayed in Dpaso looks fantastic!
Aiiiii! I had a panic attack when I read you walked 37 km and then I passed out when you wrote you did 41 km!Day 7: Rodeiro - Silleda. There were no muddy parts in the woods between Rodeiro and Lalín. And for the first time: not a single loose-aggressive dog. Time flew by…
I ran into the hospitalero in A Laxe who was doing some extra cleaning since yesterday's load of pilgrims had made a mess, according to him. This was later contradicted by the chatty owner of the bar a few hundred mtrs up the road. She said that the hospitalero is a lazy bum who complains about everything! I had a good laugh listening to this lady as she informed me about the latest gossip and drama, twists and turns surrounding the maintenance of the albergue. She was adamant there is no plague of mosquitos in there any more! Well I believe that when I see it… The mosquitos are the main reason I prefer to push on to Silleda on this stretch.
I arrived in Silleda in the afternoon and it looked like a deserted town. Being Sunday, all the supermarkets were closed. If you need to buy something to eat you have to walk to the gas station 700 meters from the town's centre. Two thirds of the bars seemed to close as well. But the pizzería Galega (recommended) is open even on Sunday evening.
After a long stage of 37 kms I opted for Hotel Ramos, 30 euros. The Gran Albergue Silleda, as well as the Albergue Turístico, are close but I wanted a bit of luxury. The hotel seemed a bit run down since I last stayed here in 2019. I asked for an electric fan and got a medieval tool from Abuela's attic: I am amazed it actually worked. I slept with the fan on and the windows open all night, still I was sweating!
Day 8: Silleda - Santiago de Compostela. A monster stage of 41 kms (according to the waymarks in Silleda). I have stayed so many times in Ponte Ulla (20 kms) that I decided to skip the hostal/albergue O Cruceiro da Ulla (nice, functional). I would walk straight to Santiago! It wasn't as hard as I thought. I knew my way, where the bars were, the fountains, the ups and downs… I took strategic breaks in Bandeira, Ponte Ulla and A Susana and arrived in Santiago without too much suffering. The heatwave was over and I had only 25C in the afternoon. It was a perfect day for walking.
Hostal ArArAt in would have to do for two nights. 74 euros on Booking. (I will never stay there again. The owner has anger problems, and/or is mentally unstable. He went crazy because I couldn't open the front door and asked to be buzzed in - once. Something is wrong with him.) I needed a rest day in Santiago: wandering through the streets, watching pilgrims, doing laundry, buying plane tickets… Alas, it was time to go home.
I think I will have to give the Invierno a rest next year. It is embarrassing when people start to recognize you along the way. For example Tattooed Girl in Sobradelo ("You've been here before, right? Like… a lot"), Old Lady in A Rúa ("Ooh you came back!") or Mr Funnyman in Carpinteiras ("Oh it's you again!"). Well, one day they will have to see me again because I always come back to the Invierno!
Thanks for reading!
/BP
Yes as others have said, but usually there was hardly any traffic, and a softer shoulder to walk on.
But next time maybe avoid that place in Santiago, of course. Sounds like a crummy end to a wonderful camino.
Thank you so much @Bad Pilgrim and others for this fabulous posting about the Invierno. The humour had me in howls of laughter and the information about the route currently and also about accommodation are invaluable. Thank you to all who contributed. Can't wait to walk it late September!
I had a panic attack when I read you walked 37 km and then I passed out when you wrote you did 41 km!
Because of what you and Laurie said ziI agree. There has been discussions about this in other threads... I believe Laurie posted a link to one of them above. I am certainly one to admit that there is much asphalt! Not that I have the percentage, but there is a lot of it. That said, it is almost never a big road with much traffic, it is just hard surface. There is very little or no traffic, for example between Monforte and Chantada.
Because of what you and Laurie said I have bought a pair of trail runnersI agree. There has been discussions about this in other threads... I believe Laurie posted a link to one of them above. I am certainly one to admit that there is much asphalt! Not that I have the percentage, but there is a lot of it. That said, it is almost never a big road with much traffic, it is just hard surface. There is very little or no traffic, for example between Monforte and Chantada.
Because of what you and Laurie said zi
Because of what you and Laurie said I have bought a pair of trail runners
But I *want* to hear about the wild animal attacks!!!Dear people,
I walked my annual Camino de Invierno between the 11 and the 18 of July this year (2022). I kept a diary of which I publish a summary below. You will get it in bits because it is too long to read… Expletives, wild animal attacks and revelling in napolitanas have been left out. First a few general notes and a comparison with last year's Invierno:
Kilometers: The distance to Santiago is now engraved on the mojones (the granite waymarks). The distance was not there last year (beginning of July 2021). Everything looks brand new and no mojón has been damaged/defaced - except one. I think you can guess which one. We will get to that later.
Embellishment: The Xunta and/or the villagers really stepped up since last year. The places where the Camino goes have been prettified. One example: there is now a Pilgrim's Bench, Banco peregrino, in several villages and hamlets. It is a large, yellow bench in the shape of an arrow; you will see them when you walk by. There are more info boards, waymarks, signs, quirky handicraft, flowerpots and what have you to emphasize the Camino, especially in the small villages. There is also a sense of general cleanup. Above all, a cleanup of dogs. I imagine the Xunta ushered an order to the villagers to chain the dogs, lock them up, or deport them to the Castilian border. I only met aggressive dogs before Quiroga and Belesar, nowhere else.
Wildfires? I was lucky not to experience any of it. Less than a week later (July 18) I see the Valdeorras region, Quiroga and Pobra do Brollón having problems. Trains between Galicia and Madrid have been cancelled or substituted with other means of transport. Watch the news and ask the locals if the Camino de Invierno is affected, if you are walking any time soon!
But let's get down to business.
Day 0: Ponferrada. I arrived with the night bus from Mérida at 9.30 a.m. I stayed at Hostal Río Selmo, 35 euros. The cheapest alternatives are of course the albergues San Nicolás de Flüe (parochial), Alea (private) and Guiana (private) but I can't stand the snoring. Guiana has an amazing breakfast (in 2018 when I stayed there) if you are into those kinds of things. I spent large part of the day in the cafés in the old town watching pilgrims arrive. They wear their bathroom, kitchen and livingroom on their backs, and judging by their boots they plan to walk through the Amazon jungle. I got tendonitis just by looking at them. I wanted to run some errands to Decathlon. But it was Sunday and it was closed, as was much of the rest of town… I went to bed early to be well rested before my first stage the following day.
To be continued
But I *want* to hear about the wild animal attacks!!!
I use hear protection that I use at the range. Keeps all noise out. A little cumbersome but I even use them here at home. Well worth itI have tried a lot and it still doesn't keep the noise out. I happily take advice!
Will be starting the Invierno September 3rd. Will be staying a couple of nights in Ponferrada with a stop at the Decathlon, of course. I won't be there Sunday, thank God. Thanks for the update.Dear people,
I walked my annual Camino de Invierno between the 11 and the 18 of July this year (2022). I kept a diary of which I publish a summary below. You will get it in bits because it is too long to read… Expletives, wild animal attacks and revelling in napolitanas have been left out. First a few general notes and a comparison with last year's Invierno:
Kilometers: The distance to Santiago is now engraved on the mojones (the granite waymarks). The distance was not there last year (beginning of July 2021). Everything looks brand new and no mojón has been damaged/defaced - except one. I think you can guess which one. We will get to that later.
Embellishment: The Xunta and/or the villagers really stepped up since last year. The places where the Camino goes have been prettified. One example: there is now a Pilgrim's Bench, Banco peregrino, in several villages and hamlets. It is a large, yellow bench in the shape of an arrow; you will see them when you walk by. There are more info boards, waymarks, signs, quirky handicraft, flowerpots and what have you to emphasize the Camino, especially in the small villages. There is also a sense of general cleanup. Above all, a cleanup of dogs. I imagine the Xunta ushered an order to the villagers to chain the dogs, lock them up, or deport them to the Castilian border. I only met aggressive dogs before Quiroga and Belesar, nowhere else.
Wildfires? I was lucky not to experience any of it. Less than a week later (July 18) I see the Valdeorras region, Quiroga and Pobra do Brollón having problems. Trains between Galicia and Madrid have been cancelled or substituted with other means of transport. Watch the news and ask the locals if the Camino de Invierno is affected, if you are walking any time soon!
But let's get down to business.
Day 0: Ponferrada. I arrived with the night bus from Mérida at 9.30 a.m. I stayed at Hostal Río Selmo, 35 euros. The cheapest alternatives are of course the albergues San Nicolás de Flüe (parochial), Alea (private) and Guiana (private) but I can't stand the snoring. Guiana has an amazing breakfast (in 2018 when I stayed there) if you are into those kinds of things. I spent large part of the day in the cafés in the old town watching pilgrims arrive. They wear their bathroom, kitchen and livingroom on their backs, and judging by their boots they plan to walk through the Amazon jungle. I got tendonitis just by looking at them. I wanted to run some errands to Decathlon. But it was Sunday and it was closed, as was much of the rest of town… I went to bed early to be well rested before my first stage the following day.
To be continued
And I was waiting for this. But missed the qualifier in the first post.revelling in napolitanas have been left out.
Thank you for this wonderful series of posts. It was great to walk with you.of which I publish a summary below. You will get it in bits because it is too long to read… Expletives, wild animal attacks and revelling in napolitanas have been left out.
Yes yes yes yes yes please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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