Backpack weight

[GabrielleJade]

Hi all! I will be going on my first Camino in September and am a bit concerned about the weight of my backpack. I weigh about 59kgs and my pack is currently 6kgs (without the weight of water or snacks). Just wanted to get some other opinions on the 10% rule and whether going over is alright. I'm pretty fit and did a few training sessions with a 10kg pack.

 

[Anemone del Camino]

Welcome to the Forum.

Count your blessings that you are at 6kg. The less your pack weighs, the happier you will be. 10% rule has caused a lot of discussion, whereas there is consensus to go as light as possible, while not putting yourself at risk (not bringing sunprotection of some sort for example, or a fleece in season) relying on others to provide for you (bring your own footcare items for ex.)

If you want, post the list of items you are taking, and those you are wondering about. We will love to give you advice. That is as many different answers as there are people andwering you.

 

[jo webber]

Hi, welcome.
When in Sept are you starting?
A packing list would be great. Are you concerned because your pack feels to heavy? Or something else?

 

[C clearly]

As you know, everyone is different in strength and fitness. If you are at 6 kg, that is quite reasonable.

 

[GabrielleJade]

I'll be starting on 3rd of September! I think I could handle it, but I want to be as comfortable as possible! My packing list is;

Sleeping bag (1kg...tossing up on this one)
Silk liner
Flip flops
Hiking shoes
1 pair Hiking pants
2 yoga leggings
2 t shirts
1 small tank top
Light weight fleece
Rainjacket
3 socks plus liner pair
2 sports bras
4 pairs of underwear
Small microfiber towel
First aid kit (few bandaids, compeed, imodium, asthma meds, strapping tape)
Toiletries (sml shampoo and conditioner, sml liquid soap, moisturiser, paw paw, sunscreen, deodorant, trek and travel laundry liq, toothbrush/paste, comb).
Technology (charger and converter, solar charger, phone, ipod - putting these inside a small waterproof sack)
Guidebook plus passports and travel documents

Let me know what you guys think! Thank you all again

 

[jo webber]

Your list looks good.
I would add a sun hat of some sort, sun screen and a pack cover for rain.

 

[GabrielleJade]

Your list looks good.
I would add a sun hat of some sort, sun screen and a pack cover for rain.

I have sunscreen, and my back pack has a rain cover built in, but I will definitely bring a sun hat, thank you!

 

[HedaP]

Yes, your list does look good. You will probably need only 1 pair of yoga leggings and 3 pairs of undies but that is just shuffling deckchairs. A lighter warm sleeping option would be good but only if at minimal cost. There were down throw blankets recently on sale at Costco. I managed without a solar charger and I downloaded a guide to my phone but every pilgrim has different priorities. If staying in albergues you do need something such as a silk scarf or sarong to cover the pillow though your sleeping sheet may incorporate a pillow slip in which case ignore this last advice.
Buen camino, peregrina.

 

[MTtoCamino]

I don't see foot specific care items for blisters, other than compeed, have you experience dealing with them? One of the quickest ways to slow or stop the Camino.

 

[Mike Savage]

If the pack fits well, has a good waist strap and you are not carrying the weight on your shoulders but on your hips then you should be fine. My pack usually weighs 4.5k but I can't really tell any difference when I have extra food and water and it weighs 6k it feels pretty much the same at the end of the day. If I carried much more then I think I would start to notice the difference after a while. For reference I weigh about 61kg.

 

[GabrielleJade]

I don't see foot specific care items for blisters, other than compeed, have you experience dealing with them? One of the quickest ways to slow or stop the Camino.

Yep, I previously did Everest basecamp and found good ways to prevent them. Paw paw and strapping tape worked well to prevent them, and then I have both compeed and other blister band aids to take

 

[GabrielleJade]

Yes, your list does look good. You will probably need only 1 pair of yoga leggings and 3 pairs of undies but that is just shuffling deckchairs. A lighter warm sleeping option would be good but only if at minimal cost. There were down throw blankets recently on sale at Costco. I managed without a solar charger and I downloaded a guide to my phone but every pilgrim has different priorities. If staying in albergues you do need something such as a silk scarf or sarong to cover the pillow though your sleeping sheet may incorporate a pillow slip in which case ignore this last advice.
Buen camino, peregrina.

Thank you very much for your advice, I appreciate it!

 

[GabrielleJade]

If the pack fits well, has a good waist strap and you are not carrying the weight on your shoulders but on your hips then you should be fine. My pack usually weighs 4.5k but I can't really tell any difference when I have extra food and water and it weighs 6k it feels pretty much the same at the end of the day. If I carried much more then I think I would start to notice the difference after a while. For reference I weigh about 61kg.

That's good to know! Thank you

 

[Antonius Vaessen]

If you walked to Everest Basecamp ( wheather from Jiri or Lukla) I would not worry. The Caminoforum is much more easygoing. I presume you probably had a heavier backpack then

 

[Antonius Vaessen]

Of course I meant the Caminotrail

 

[Jeff Crawley]

Of course I meant the Caminotrail

The Camino Forum is quite easy going too

 

[Jeff Crawley]

Hi all! I will be going on my first Camino in September and am a bit concerned about the weight of my backpack. I weigh about 59kgs and my pack is currently 6kgs (without the weight of water or snacks). Just wanted to get some other opinions on the 10% rule and whether going over is alright. I'm pretty fit and did a few training sessions with a 10kg pack.

I think the 10% "rule", like the "8 glasses of water a day" rule should be taken with a pinch of salt (literally in the case of the water).
I currently (due to prescribed blood pressure medication and a stubborn doctor) weight in at a whopping 275lbs (125kg). Humping a 12.5kg pack over the Pyrenees or up O'Ceb would kill me.
I did a "get fit" walk this morning with 5kg and barely knew it was there.
If 10kg didn't phase you a tad over 10% isn't going to hurt - and you have a very sensible packing list - just don't get tempted to fill up your pack because there's still some room left!

 

[Anemone del Camino]

Which route are you walking, and during which period?

I would ditch that heavy sleeping back for something lighther. Yes, like the Costco quilt if you can get one (also on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015D47MVW/?tag=casaivar02-20) but make sure you add snap bottons to it and your liner so it doesn't fall off the bed during the night.

I would ditch the solar pannel, 2 undies, 1 leggings and add a light long sleeve T.

Other than that, you are on business.

 

[CSmith]

I really loved having a money belt for my passports (Pilgrim and otherwise), money, phone, etc. It made everything readily available and allowed me to carry things around town in the evenings. I have this one, but there are smaller, cheaper ones available. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZS3DCPY/?tag=casaivar02-20

 

[andycohn]

Ditch the sleeping bag. I did 3 caminos in September. Never needed more than liner. If really nervous, get a light fleece, as suggested above. Too much underwear. You'll be doing your wash by hand every day. Solar charger is unnecessary. Your phone will be off all day, or in airplane mode so you can take pictures.

 

[domigee]

I really loved having a money belt for my passports (Pilgrim and otherwise), money, phone, etc. It made everything readily available and allowed me to carry things around town in the evenings. I have this one, but there are smaller, cheaper ones available. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZS3DCPY/?tag=casaivar02-20

Love this! Will get one for my husband for the Camino del Norte next month! Thanks

Huh, they don't sell it in the UK

 

[trecile]

Definitely no need for a solar charger. It's not a wilderness trek. However, I do carry a power bank.

 

[mcopeland]

make sure you add snap bottons to it and your liner so it doesn't fall off the bed during the night.

Can anyone give some more info on how to do this? Do you attach the liner to the quilt? I used both a liner and the Costco quilt on an late April Camino Frances. I fought with the liner all night (would wrap around me if I tried to change my position) and had to tuck the quilt down the side of the mattress or it slipped off.

 

[Anemone del Camino]

Can anyone give some more info on how to do this? Do you attach the liner to the quilt? I used both a liner and the Costco quilt on an late April Camino Frances. I fought with the liner all night (would wrap around me if I tried to change my position) and had to tuck the quilt down the side of the mattress or it slipped off.

Yes, half the snap botton on the side seam of the liner, the other half on the edge of the quilt. I think I have 4, maybe 5 snap bottons on it. This being said, as you know, thw quilt material is super light, so a bit delicate. I double the thickness of the material where the snap goes by applying a tiny square of thick material where the snaps are applied.

 

[trecile]

Can anyone give some more info on how to do this? Do you attach the liner to the quilt? I used both a liner and the Costco quilt on an late April Camino Frances. I fought with the liner all night (would wrap around me if I tried to change my position) and had to tuck the quilt down the side of the mattress or it slipped off.

Buy some sew on snaps like these. Sew one side to the liner and the other side to the quilt. Don't buy the really small snaps, they aren't strong enough to hold it in place.

 

[mcopeland]

Thanks! I have stuff sacks for each. Do you take apart in the morning or just wrap both up together?

 

[BShea]

Love this! Will get one for my husband for the Camino del Norte next month! Thanks

Huh, they don't sell it in the UK

On my last walk, I realized how heavy my empty waist pack was. I found this at Carrefour in Paris and will be giving it a try this next walk. I've tested it out on my practice walks and so far so good. Looks like you can buy it just about anywhere.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C96A7C8/?tag=casaivar02-20

 

[domigee]

On my last walk, I realized how heavy my empty waist pack was. I found this at Carrefour in Paris and will be giving it a try this next walk. I've tested it out on my practice walks and so far so good. Looks like you can buy it just about anywhere.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C96A7C8/?tag=casaivar02-20

Looks good too. Thank you!

 

[Sixwheeler]

I'll be starting on 3rd of September! I think I could handle it, but I want to be as comfortable as possible! My packing list is;

Sleeping bag (1kg...tossing up on this one)
Silk liner
Flip flops
Hiking shoes
1 pair Hiking pants
2 yoga leggings
2 t shirts
1 small tank top
Light weight fleece
Rainjacket
3 socks plus liner pair
2 sports bras
4 pairs of underwear
Small microfiber towel
First aid kit (few bandaids, compeed, imodium, asthma meds, strapping tape)
Toiletries (sml shampoo and conditioner, sml liquid soap, moisturiser, paw paw, sunscreen, deodorant, trek and travel laundry liq, toothbrush/paste, comb).
Technology (charger and converter, solar charger, phone, ipod - putting these inside a small waterproof sack)
Guidebook plus passports and travel documents

Let me know what you guys think! Thank you all again

Personally I'd certainly lose the sleeping bag and the solar charger.
Ultreïa

 

[trecile]

Thanks! I have stuff sacks for each. Do you take apart in the morning or just wrap both up together?

I put both pieces in one stuff sack. Do whatever works best for you.

 

[marianna niebauer]

I'll be starting on 3rd of September! I think I could handle it, but I want to be as comfortable as possible! My packing list is;

Sleeping bag (1kg...tossing up on this one)
Silk liner
Flip flops
Hiking shoes
1 pair Hiking pants
2 yoga leggings
2 t shirts
1 small tank top
Light weight fleece
Rainjacket
3 socks plus liner pair
2 sports bras
4 pairs of underwear
Small microfiber towel
First aid kit (few bandaids, compeed, imodium, asthma meds, strapping tape)
Toiletries (sml shampoo and conditioner, sml liquid soap, moisturiser, paw paw, sunscreen, deodorant, trek and travel laundry liq, toothbrush/paste, comb).
Technology (charger and converter, solar charger, phone, ipod - putting these inside a small waterproof sack)
Guidebook plus passports and travel documents

Let me know what you guys think! Thank you all again

Why the yoga leggings? Two pair travel pants (maybe zip off) & definitely a hat. I also would consider a "buff" for cold/windy conditions. Def leave sleeping bag behind. Does rain gear cover pack or maybe just a large garbage bag.

 

[GabrielleJade]

Which route are you walking, and during which period?

I would ditch that heavy sleeping back for something lighther. Yes, like the Costco quilt if you can get one (also on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015D47MVW/?tag=casaivar02-20) but make sure you add snap bottons to it and your liner so it doesn't fall off the bed during the night.

I would ditch the solar pannel, 2 undies, 1 leggings and add a light long sleeve T.

Other than that, you are on business.

I'll be doing the Camino Frances from St Jean to Santiago de Compostela mostly through September and early October! I'll definitely try to find something lighter, thanks so much for the advice!

 

[GabrielleJade]

Why the yoga leggings? Two pair travel pants (maybe zip off) & definitely a hat. I also would consider a "buff" for cold/windy conditions. Def leave sleeping bag behind. Does rain gear cover pack or maybe just a large garbage bag.

I find them more comfortable to walk in personally, and they weigh hardly anything so thought they'd be fine. Yep, my bag comes with a rain cover and will definitely bring a buff and sunhat! Thank you!

 

[Anemone del Camino]

Thanks! I have stuff sacks for each. Do you take apart in the morning or just wrap both up together?

My stuff sack that came with the quilt is too bog to really be compression bit knce the liner is in there... perfection.

 

[Deleted member 67338]

Brilliant load list perfect just take enough water to get you to the next town then top up this is probably the most important peice of advice, I was asked to loan a little water out and loved the fact I could help, never hesitate to ask for help because the people you meet on the way are your camino Family

 

[Ian & Virginia]

Brilliant load list perfect just take enough water to get you to the next town then top up this is probably the most important peice of advice, I was asked to loan a little water out and loved the fact I could help, never hesitate to ask for help because the people you meet on the way are your camino Family

Nice photo of Perth in the background there Mick!

 

[Deleted member 67338]

Nice photo of Perth in the background there Mick!

That's Sydney my mate from Reno Nevada USA just arrived from winter to 44C and we were on the Manly ferry as I flew from Perth to Sydney to pick him up, having a nice cold carina enroute

 

[Deleted member 56069]

Gabrielle your pack contents and weight seems fine. The fact you have walked with your pack prior to your Camino puts you ahead of many of us. Less is more for sure. Just for a little humor, I came across this gentleman on a few days on this years Portuguese Camino. Here he is rolling into the main square by the cathedral in Santiago. Something tells me he was happy with the prospect of not slinging this behemoth on again having completed his Camino walk!

 

[willafranklin]

I'm about to leave for the Camino (Burgos to Leon this time) and was curious about the advice not to bring a sleeping bag. We have permethrin-soaked cotton sleeping sack and down blankets. When I went last time, in July, it was hot as heck, but now I'm seeing on the weather report that nights can get down the 50s F (10c). Will I really not need the blanket? Would love to save the weight if so.

 

[Jeff Crawley]

Buy some sew on snaps like these. Sew one side to the liner and the other side to the quilt. Don't buy the really small snaps, they aren't strong enough to hold it in place.
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Ah but you're famed for your skills with needle and thread - us, mere mortals, have to fall back on KAM snaps

 

[Jeff Crawley]

Can anyone give some more info on how to do this? Do you attach the liner to the quilt? I used both a liner and the Costco quilt on an late April Camino Frances. I fought with the liner all night (would wrap around me if I tried to change my position) and had to tuck the quilt down the side of the mattress or it slipped off.

Somebody on this site suggested putting the down throw inside the liner.

 

[trecile]

Ah but you're famed for your skills with needle and thread - us, mere mortals, have to fall back on KAM snaps

I hadn't heard of KAM snaps, but I just Googled them. They look better than the sew in snaps, though the sew in snaps are readily available at any fabric store or Walmart.

Somebody on this site suggested putting the down throw inside the liner.

That was me. It works better to keep you warm inside the liner rather than outside. And it won't slide off.

 

[Jeff Crawley]

I hadn't heard of KAM snaps, but I just Googled them. They look better than the sew in snaps, though the sew in snaps are readily available at any fabric store or Walmart.

That was me. It works better to keep you warm inside the liner rather than outside. And it won't slide off.

I KNEW it was somebody with some common sense! The KAM snaps are good but you do need the special tool and they can become addictive . . . . I've got 250 of these things, what can I use them on now?

 

[Rhysmike]

Hi all! I will be going on my first Camino in September and am a bit concerned about the weight of my backpack. I weigh about 59kgs and my pack is currently 6kgs (without the weight of water or snacks). Just wanted to get some other opinions on the 10% rule and whether going over is alright. I'm pretty fit and did a few training sessions with a 10kg pack.

The 10% rule is just an arbitrary number. Carry what you feel comfortable with. I am over 60 and last year walked the Camino and 1000 km of the Francigena to Rome carrying 12 kg plus water (15 % of my weight) with no issues. If you believe the 10% 'rule' the more overweight you were, the more you could carry.
My wife, who had previously had knee surgery, asked her specialist and he said, "I wouldn't go beyond 20% of your body weight".

 

[long trails]

I am about to head out on the Bibbulmun Track here in Western Australia. Have to carry 9 days of food plus camping gear. Hate to think what my new Osprey is going to weigh!

Next time I am on the Camino I'll feel like a trail runner.

As everyone says, the lighter the better. There is some awesome lightweight gear coming out of the USA. They have a big cottage industry over there dedicated to lightweight gear.

As for the 10% rule, I think it's nonsense. Totally an individual thing.

 

[MichelleElynHogan]

Hi GabrielleJade,

1) Forget you ever heard of the 10% Rule. It is not a rule for everyone. It is a complete generality. For instance, last Summer, I was 243 ib or about 110 kg. Using the rule, I should be able to carry 11kg. Problem is, I am 167 cm or 5'6". When I first packed everything up, the pack weighed 14.5 kg or 32 ib. NOT HAPPENING. Paring things down, I got it to my minimum. It was still too much but that is what I went with and I paid for it, dearly. Third day out of SJPP, the IT Band on my left leg snapped. Here is it a year later and it is better but still not fully healed.
2) I thought I was fit too. I was not.
3) It has been said and it is true, "The lighter the pack, the happier you will be."

6 kg is a good weight but can you manage with anything less than what is in the pack now? Just want you to be happier.

 

[MichelleElynHogan]

I am about to head out on the Bibbulmun Track here in Western Australia. Have to carry 9 days of food plus camping gear. Hate to think what my new Osprey is going to weigh!

Next time I am on the Camino I'll feel like a trail runner.

As everyone says, the lighter the better. There is some awesome lightweight gear coming out of the USA. They have a big cottage industry over there dedicated to lightweight gear.

As for the 10% rule, I think it's nonsense. Totally an individual thing.

Hi longtrails,

I enjoyed your post and then I started thinking, I wish I was a bushman. He goes on walkabout with a spear, a knife, maybe a bow and a couple arrows and not much else. Carries no tent, sleeping bag, food but maybe a vessel to carry water. He's never heard of Osprey or would ever have need of one.

How can we get to that mindset? Yes, it takes a lot of learning about the local surroundings and how to fill our needs with what is available, something we have completely lost as urban dwellers.

Then I started thinking about peregrinos 1,000 years ago. Again, no Osprey or anything resembling a backpack. They would be a bit on the rich side if they had a bag similar to what we now call a Messenger Bag. Again, no food, maybe a blanket and what they wore on their back, and a staff.

Have we gone wrong somewhere?



Maybe this is something worth our time?

 

[long trails]

Hi longtrails,

I enjoyed your post and then I started thinking, I wish I was a bushman. He goes on walkabout with a spear, a knife, maybe a bow and a couple arrows and not much else. Carries no tent, sleeping bag, food but maybe a vessel to carry water. He's never heard of Osprey or would ever have need of one.

How can we get to that mindset? Yes, it takes a lot of learning about the local surroundings and how to fill our needs with what is available, something we have completely lost as urban dwellers.

Then I started thinking about peregrinos 1,000 years ago. Again, no Osprey or anything resembling a backpack. They would be a bit on the rich side if they had a bag similar to what we now call a Messenger Bag. Again, no food, maybe a blanket and what they wore on their back, and a staff.

Have we gone wrong somewhere?

Maybe this is something worth our time?

I guess time have changed and as a race we are moving along at a rapid speed. When I look at all the wars and corruption in the world then for sure, we have gone wrong somewhere.

Surely the peregrinos of centuries ago would have had something to carry their stuff in? Would be cool to perhaps do a Camino as the 11th century pilgrim would have. Probably not much different apart from the Walkman.

 

[VeganCamino]

Hi all! I will be going on my first Camino in September and am a bit concerned about the weight of my backpack. I weigh about 59kgs and my pack is currently 6kgs (without the weight of water or snacks). Just wanted to get some other opinions on the 10% rule and whether going over is alright. I'm pretty fit and did a few training sessions with a 10kg pack.

So curious how this turned out for you. I'm facing a similar issue. My pack is exactly 10 percent of my weight but without water or food or toiletries. I've tried three packs and I'm having such massive shoulder pain I'm rethinking what to do.

 

[Deleted member 67338]

I'll be starting on 3rd of September! I think I could handle it, but I want to be as comfortable as possible! My packing list is;

Sleeping bag (1kg...tossing up on this one)
Silk liner
Flip flops
Hiking shoes
1 pair Hiking pants
2 yoga leggings
2 t shirts
1 small tank top
Light weight fleece
Rainjacket
3 socks plus liner pair
2 sports bras
4 pairs of underwear
Small microfiber towel
First aid kit (few bandaids, compeed, imodium, asthma meds, strapping tape)
Toiletries (sml shampoo and conditioner, sml liquid soap, moisturiser, paw paw, sunscreen, deodorant, trek and travel laundry liq, toothbrush/paste, comb).
Technology (charger and converter, solar charger, phone, ipod - putting these inside a small waterproof sack)
Guidebook plus passports and travel documents

Let me know what you guys think! Thank you all again

You can bin the sleeping bag, shampoo, conditioner extra pair of socks and only take your phone and charger with your songs on your phone and four pairs of underwear is over kill as you wash them each day unless your young and if you are then most are too lazy to do their washing each day. Travel laundry liquid is wasted just get a bar of soap , I would get the e book for a guide and only take bough water for a top up and an extra 500 ml emergency. Going without personal beautifying stuff for six weeks is a small price to pay for a lightweight blisterless camino

 

[Deleted member 67338]

I guess time have changed and as a race we are moving along at a rapid speed. When I look at all the wars and corruption in the world then for sure, we have gone wrong somewhere.

Surely the peregrinos of centuries ago would have had something to carry their stuff in? Would be cool to perhaps do a Camino as the 11th century pilgrim would have. Probably not much different apart from the Walkman.

You can bin the sleeping bag, shampoo, conditioner extra pair of socks and only take your phone and charger with your songs on your phone and four pairs of underwear is over kill as you wash them each day unless your young and if you are then most are too lazy to do their washing each day. Travel laundry liquid is wasted just get a bar of soap , I would get the e book for a guide and only take bough water for a top up and an extra 500 ml emergency. Going without personal beautifying stuff for six weeks is a small price to pay for a lightweight blisterless camino

Hi longtrails,

I enjoyed your post and then I started thinking, I wish I was a bushman. He goes on walkabout with a spear, a knife, maybe a bow and a couple arrows and not much else. Carries no tent, sleeping bag, food but maybe a vessel to carry water. He's never heard of Osprey or would ever have need of one.

How can we get to that mindset? Yes, it takes a lot of learning about the local surroundings and how to fill our needs with what is available, something we have completely lost as urban dwellers.

Then I started thinking about peregrinos 1,000 years ago. Again, no Osprey or anything resembling a backpack. They would be a bit on the rich side if they had a bag similar to what we now call a Messenger Bag. Again, no food, maybe a blanket and what they wore on their back, and a staff.

Have we gone wrong somewhere?



Maybe this is something worth our time?

It’s called progress and if you would like to go back a thousand years feel free, go wrong ? Really my head hurts

 

[VeganCamino]

Hi, welcome.
When in Sept are you starting?
A packing list would be great. Are you concerned because your pack feels to heavy? Or something else?

My backpack feels too heavy and I am concerned. I have tried 5 backpacks so far-- Osprey Sirrus 24, OspreyTempest 30, Deuter 28l Aspen, and 2 different models of the Gregory Jade 28sl. They all hurt!

Here's my much abbreviated list:

wear:
socks
light trail shoes
yoga pants
undies
sport bra
shirt
scarf
sunhat
sunglasses

pack:
2 pair socks
flip flops
yoga pants
sweat pants to sleep in/ wear on the trail
short sleeve shirt
long sleeve shirt
undies
sport bra
Kindle
charger
adapter for Spain
phone
phone charger
headphones
brick charger- my only incidental and I would really like to take it, even though it's heavy
buff
comb
contacts
small bottle contact solution
glasses
ear plugs
eye mask
sleep sack
2 pens
journal
key chain flash light
advil
melatonin
Vit C, multivitamin, Zinc
tampons
shampoo bar soap
Scrubba to wash clothes
sunscreen
toothpaste 1 ounce!!!!!
toothbrush
passport
credit cards-- not even in a wallet!
tissues
lip goo with SPF
arm warmers-- bought light performance ones
nail clippers
2 protein bars
small packet of nut butter~~ 2 oz.
gum

not taking but want:
camera
light sleeping bag (light = 1.5 lb)
electric toothbrush

I don't feel like this is a lengthy list, and it's too heavy for me to carry. Not sure what to do. if you see anything on my list you don't think i need, let me know. It just seems like so little stuff to me. I wouldn't normally travel this light. (I see why people walk the AT naked!!!)

 

[domigee]

My backpack feels too heavy and I am concerned. I have tried 5 backpacks so far-- Osprey Sirrus 24, OspreyTempest 30, Deuter 28l Aspen, and 2 different models of the Gregory Jade 28sl. They all hurt!

Here's my much abbreviated list:

wear:
socks
light trail shoes
yoga pants
undies
sport bra
shirt
scarf
sunhat
sunglasses

pack:
2 pair socks
flip flops
yoga pants
sweat pants to sleep in/ wear on the trail
short sleeve shirt
long sleeve shirt
undies
sport bra
Kindle
charger
adapter for Spain
phone
phone charger
headphones
brick charger- my only incidental and I would really like to take it, even though it's heavy
buff
comb
contacts
small bottle contact solution
glasses
ear plugs
eye mask
sleep sack
2 pens
journal
key chain flash light
advil
melatonin
Vit C, multivitamin, Zinc
tampons
shampoo bar soap
Scrubba to wash clothes
sunscreen
toothpaste 1 ounce!!!!!
toothbrush
passport
credit cards-- not even in a wallet!
tissues
lip goo with SPF
arm warmers-- bought light performance ones
nail clippers
2 protein bars
small packet of nut butter~~ 2 oz.
gum

not taking but want:
camera
light sleeping bag (light = 1.5 lb)
electric toothbrush

I don't feel like this is a lengthy list, and it's too heavy for me to carry. Not sure what to do. if you see anything on my list you don't think i need, let me know. It just seems like so little stuff to me. I wouldn't normally travel this light. (I see why people walk the AT naked!!!)

Hi,
I can’t see a towel or any type of rain gear....

 

[VeganCamino]

Hi,
I can’t see a towel or any type of rain gear....

I know! A towel is a must have. I don't know if I will be bringing any rain gear given that my bag is already so heavy that I'm miserable carrying it. Ugh! I may have to pay a service to take my bag. I don't feel like I am over-packing but wow, it feels like a ton of bricks. How rainy will the Norte be in July? (please say not at all!) my pack does come with a built in rain cover.

 

[Robo]

My backpack feels too heavy and I am concerned. I have tried 5 backpacks so far-- Osprey Sirrus 24, OspreyTempest 30, Deuter 28l Aspen, and 2 different models of the Gregory Jade 28sl. They all hurt!

Here's my much abbreviated list:

wear:
socks
light trail shoes
yoga pants
undies
sport bra
shirt
scarf
sunhat
sunglasses

pack:
2 pair socks
flip flops
yoga pants
sweat pants to sleep in/ wear on the trail
short sleeve shirt
long sleeve shirt
undies
sport bra
Kindle
charger
adapter for Spain
phone
phone charger
headphones
brick charger- my only incidental and I would really like to take it, even though it's heavy
buff
comb
contacts
small bottle contact solution
glasses
ear plugs
eye mask
sleep sack
2 pens
journal
key chain flash light
advil
melatonin
Vit C, multivitamin, Zinc
tampons
shampoo bar soap
Scrubba to wash clothes
sunscreen
toothpaste 1 ounce!!!!!
toothbrush
passport
credit cards-- not even in a wallet!
tissues
lip goo with SPF
arm warmers-- bought light performance ones
nail clippers
2 protein bars
small packet of nut butter~~ 2 oz.
gum

not taking but want:
camera
light sleeping bag (light = 1.5 lb)
electric toothbrush

I don't feel like this is a lengthy list, and it's too heavy for me to carry. Not sure what to do. if you see anything on my list you don't think i need, let me know. It just seems like so little stuff to me. I wouldn't normally travel this light. (I see why people walk the AT naked!!!)

Is it too heavy? Or just hurts? (poorly fitted/adjusted) Two different things really.
What overall weight does this add up to?

When you try the packs in the store are you getting professional help to fit them?
And add in the weight you expect to carry when trying them on. Stores carry weights for that purpose.

Afternote:

I see on an earlier post you talked of shoulder pain.
There should be very little weight if any on your shoulders.
All the weight is on the hips.

My shoulder straps barely touch my shoulders and I can slide my hand under them easily.

Again......get a professional 'fitter' in an outdoor store to fit and adjust a range of packs for you to try.

 

[Anamya]

A towel is a must have. I don't know if I will be bringing any rain gear given that my bag is already so heavy that I'm miserable carrying it.

A quick reduction of weight would be to leave the Kindle/charger behind. Download some pdfs to read on the phone, if you really want it. The conversations with other pilgrims would be interesting enough to fill most of your evenings (and I'm an avid reader, 20-30 novels a year here)

Can you also reduce the weight in medicines carrying just one multivitamin that includes everything? If you need more, buy it in Spain.

Sweat pants also tend to be ludicrously heavy. Leave them behind, the hiking pants should suffice and you have yoga pants also. Change them for shorts, if you want something to sleep in.

and maybe leave the eye mask as well. But keep the earplugs

Another idea is also change everything that is cotton for quick drying fabrics, such as sinthetics and microfibre. Even underwear.

I hope that helps

 

[domigee]

I know! A towel is a must have. I don't know if I will be bringing any rain gear given that my bag is already so heavy that I'm miserable carrying it. Ugh! I may have to pay a service to take my bag. I don't feel like I am over-packing but wow, it feels like a ton of bricks. How rainy will the Norte be in July? (please say not at all!) my pack does come with a built in rain cover.

How much does your bag weigh?
I haven’t done the camino del Norte but unless you’re very lucky, I think you can expect rain at times?
I wouldn’t take the scrubba thingy, nor the kindle . Use the app on your phone.
I would always advise to take a sleeping bag (but that’s just me, many peeps do without). I couldn’t.
Go for ‘training’ walks with your pack. If it is reasonable weight, then maybe your backpack isn’t properly fitted....
Best wishes.

 

[Anamya]

I'm also curious about the pack weight. My pack is not much different than yours, and it weighed 4.3kg without water (5.4kg with water) this April on the Lebaniego.

If you are doing the Frances or the Norte, chance is that it will rain eventually.

Ah, and if you are going in June, ditch the arm warmers as well. except for the Pyrenees, every other day wil probably be hot. Very hot.

 

[VeganCamino]

Is it too heavy? Or just hurts? (poorly fitted/adjusted) Two different things really.
What overall weight does this add up to?

When you try the packs in the store are you getting professional help to fit them?
And add in the weight you expect to carry when trying them on. Stores carry weights for that purpose.

Afternote:

I see on an earlier post you talked of shoulder pain.
There should be very little weight if any on your shoulders.
All the weight is on the hips.

My shoulder straps barely touch my shoulders and I can slide my hand under them easily.

Again......get a professional 'fitter' in an outdoor store to fit and adjust a range of packs for you to try.

Thank you. I did start with REI and had 3 different people help me on 3 different occasions. (I think the staff are sick of me by now!) The first one they fit on my felt great and it is a 26 liter and I couldn't fit all my stuff inside. I will go back this weekend and take the two best contenders and see if I am not adjusting properly. I have watched a few videos about how to pack and fit the pack. And agreed, the pros just know! Thanks.

adds up to 16 lbs. which doesn't seem like a lot but OMG heavy! I'm 5'5' and 140 lbs.

 

[Deleted member 67185]

Thank you. I did start with REI and had 3 different people help me on 3 different occasions. (I think the staff are sick of me by now!) The first one they fit on my felt great and it is a 26 liter and I couldn't fit all my stuff inside. I will go back this weekend and take the two best contenders and see if I am not adjusting properly. I have watched a few videos about how to pack and fit the pack. And agreed, the pros just know! Thanks.

adds up to 16 lbs. which doesn't seem like a lot but OMG heavy! I'm 5'5' and 140 lbs.

I cannot tell you how often I have listened to folks complain about backpacks that were 'fitted' to them by a store's employees.

I would bet money that your issue has more to do with fit, and less with adjustments. Your problem sounds like your pack is not the correct size.

The correct size is determined by the length of your spine between the bump at the base of your neck, and the iliac crest (the very top) of the hips. How much capacity or volume a backpack can carry is not a factor in what size a pack is.

Once you know the length of your spine, then you can take that measurement (inches or centimeters) and match THAT number with the manufacturers size chart. For example: a 15" length might correspond to one manufacturers size of XS or S (Extra small or small).

Only AFTER you have a correct fitting pack can you hope to be able to properly adjust it to fine tune it to your body.

If I can be of further help or if you have other questions that I can answer, feel free to send me a private message and I will be happy to assist.

 

[Anamya]

Always consider what @davebugg says, he is the Forum's gear specialist!

We are similar in size, and I would also die with 16lbs... Mine is around 10.

What I would take off your list:

- eye mask
- buff (you already have a scarf, take one or the other)
-1 pen
- sports bra (you already have one. Wash only when needed, and if it does not dry, walk one day bra-less. You seem to be small, one day probably won't hurt).
-1 brick charger (You already have the normal charger. If weight is an issue, leave it back. Recharge every night at the accomodation).
- sweat pants (swap for shorts)
- arm warmers
- Kindle + charger
- Vitamins (swap for a multivitamin that covers the whole spectrum and buy extras if needed in Spain)
- Scrubba

Additions:
- a lightweight (microfiber) towel.
- very light poncho

In general your list does not seem unreasonable, I wonder if the materials are too heavy. See if you can swap fabrics of some of your items for lighter ones. It is amazing how even microfiber undies make a difference when you swap the cotton ones.

You will be surprised with how little you actually need at the camino. It is scary to travel with so little, but after the first days you quickly realize what is necessary and what isn't. You always have the option of putting the 'extras' in a box and mailing it to Ivar in Santiago to collect it later

 

[C clearly]

Your list looks very reasonable. The only things I would leave behind are the sweat pants (you only need 2 pairs of pants, in total), the arm warmers and the kindle. I carry full rain gear, a sleeping bag and layers for March and October chills, and my pack weighs only 13 lb. Your extra pen and sleep mask can't weigh too much! And my stuff , including sleeping bag and more layers, fits into a 31 L pack (Osprey Talon 33 in size Small).

Nevertheless, whether it weighs 13 lb or 16, the backpack has to fit right. Is there a weight at which any of those packs feels OK? If not, do you have discomfort when you walk without a pack? Maybe you are simply not accustomed to wearing a back pack at all, and you are walking differently with it.

 

[Robo]

Thank you. I did start with REI and had 3 different people help me on 3 different occasions. (I think the staff are sick of me by now!) The first one they fit on my felt great and it is a 26 liter and I couldn't fit all my stuff inside. I will go back this weekend and take the two best contenders and see if I am not adjusting properly. I have watched a few videos about how to pack and fit the pack. And agreed, the pros just know! Thanks.

adds up to 16 lbs. which doesn't seem like a lot but OMG heavy! I'm 5'5' and 140 lbs.

16 lbs (7.25 kg for the rest of the World) is quite heavy for your size.
(smaller person, smaller clothes, lighter etc)
I'm sure if you are ruthless you could get it to 6.0 kg or so (13.2 lbs in 'old money')

But as @davebugg has pointed out, it's all about sizing and fit!
With the right pack even your 16 lbs will be manageable........

 

[JAMM]

My backpack feels too heavy and I am concerned. I have tried 5 backpacks so far-- Osprey Sirrus 24, OspreyTempest 30, Deuter 28l Aspen, and 2 different models of the Gregory Jade 28sl. They all hurt!

Here's my much abbreviated list:

wear:
socks
light trail shoes
yoga pants
undies
sport bra
shirt
scarf
sunhat
sunglasses

pack:
2 pair socks
flip flops
yoga pants
sweat pants to sleep in/ wear on the trail
short sleeve shirt
long sleeve shirt
undies
sport bra
Kindle
charger
adapter for Spain
phone
phone charger
headphones
brick charger- my only incidental and I would really like to take it, even though it's heavy
buff
comb
contacts
small bottle contact solution
glasses
ear plugs
eye mask
sleep sack
2 pens
journal
key chain flash light
advil
melatonin
Vit C, multivitamin, Zinc
tampons
shampoo bar soap
Scrubba to wash clothes
sunscreen
toothpaste 1 ounce!!!!!
toothbrush
passport
credit cards-- not even in a wallet!
tissues
lip goo with SPF
arm warmers-- bought light performance ones
nail clippers
2 protein bars
small packet of nut butter~~ 2 oz.
gum

not taking but want:
camera
light sleeping bag (light = 1.5 lb)
electric toothbrush

I don't feel like this is a lengthy list, and it's too heavy for me to carry. Not sure what to do. if you see anything on my list you don't think i need, let me know. It just seems like so little stuff to me. I wouldn't normally travel this light. (I see why people walk the AT naked!!!)

You will be amazed of how little you need. I remember meeting someone who told me they had halved the weight of their pack after a week when they realised how few things they truly needed.

Some quick thoughts:
-Vitamins: you should be able to get these from your diet. If you have concerns, opt for a multivit rather than three different varieties.
-Scrubba: definitely not needed
-Melatonin: is this an essential for you?
-1 (or none) protein bar instead of 2: you can get things are you go along.
-tissues: these are light but might you try a hankie instead?
-tampons: have you considered a menstrual cup instead (you have to change less often and there are no solid leftovers (sorry!) to deal with)?
-contacts+fluid and glasses: can you deal with just one of these?
-kindle + charger: are these an essential for you?
-scarf or buff but probably not both.
-1 pen only.
-eye mask: might the buff do the job?

I managed carrying 5kg (I'm 52kg) in late March/early April (so taking warm, bulkyish clothes). I did not miss anything and I'm definitely (if unfortunately) not the tough type.
Good luck!

 

[kelleymac]

I'll be starting on 3rd of September! I think I could handle it, but I want to be as comfortable as possible! My packing list is;

Sleeping bag (1kg...tossing up on this one)
Silk liner
Flip flops
Hiking shoes
1 pair Hiking pants
2 yoga leggings
2 t shirts
1 small tank top
Light weight fleece
Rainjacket
3 socks plus liner pair
2 sports bras
4 pairs of underwear
Small microfiber towel
First aid kit (few bandaids, compeed, imodium, asthma meds, strapping tape)
Toiletries (sml shampoo and conditioner, sml liquid soap, moisturiser, paw paw, sunscreen, deodorant, trek and travel laundry liq, toothbrush/paste, comb).
Technology (charger and converter, solar charger, phone, ipod - putting these inside a small waterproof sack)
Guidebook plus passports and travel documents

Let me know what you guys think! Thank you all again

It looks good to me-- Here are few tweaks that I would make:

I'd take the 1 kg sleeping bag, and toss the liner. (There are places that do not have blankets.)

I'd decrease the load by not taking:
-silk liner, 1 pair leggings, 1 t-shirt, 1 pair socks, 2 pair underwear, solar charger.

For tech: Can you put your songs on your phone?

I'd increase the load by taking my kindle and a small journal and pen.


Buen Camino!

Kate

 

[Robo]

It looks good to me-- Here are few tweaks that I would make:

I'd take the 1 kg sleeping bag, and toss the liner. (There are places that do not have blankets.)

I'd decrease the load by not taking:
-silk liner, 1 pair leggings, 1 t-shirt, 1 pair socks, 2 pair underwear, solar charger.

For tech: Can you put your songs on your phone?

I'd increase the load by taking my kindle and a small journal and pen.


Buen Camino!

Kate

A 1kg sleeping bag seems quite heavy? Mine is 387 gms. (0.85 lbs)

 

[kelleymac]

A 1kg sleeping bag seems quite heavy? Mine is 387 gms. (0.85 lbs)

Good point. My warmer weather (3 season) down bag is 1#, so a little less than 0.5 kg. -- I got it mixed up with my cold weather bag I use for winter--.. OP bag was 1kg, and that is heavy.

I know there is disagreement on the sleeping bags, but I like to have mine with me. There have been a number of times there were no sheets or blankets available at the albergue. And it's comforting to know I always have my warm nest with me. -- I think that if I walked in the summer, I'd just take a liner, but I've always walked in March through early May (once in late Sept through mid Oct (LePuy to Conques).

 

[Jeff Crawley]

You will be amazed of how little you need. I remember meeting someone who told me they had halved the weight of their pack after a week when they realised how few things they truly needed.

Some quick thoughts:
-Vitamins: you should be able to get these from your diet. If you have concerns, opt for a multivit rather than three different varieties.
-Scrubba: definitely not needed
-Melatonin: is this an essential for you?
-1 (or none) protein bar instead of 2: you can get things are you go along.
-tissues: these are light but might you try a hankie instead?
-tampons: have you considered a menstrual cup instead (you have to change less often and there are no solid leftovers (sorry!) to deal with)?
-contacts+fluid and glasses: can you deal with just one of these?
-kindle + charger: are these an essential for you?
-scarf or buff but probably not both.
-1 pen only.
-eye mask: might the buff do the job?

I managed carrying 5kg (I'm 52kg) in late March/early April (so taking warm, bulkyish clothes). I did not miss anything and I'm definitely (if unfortunately) not the tough type.
Good luck!

A buff will help keep the earplugs in too.

 

[Jeff Crawley]

My backpack feels too heavy and I am concerned. I have tried 5 backpacks so far-- Osprey Sirrus 24, OspreyTempest 30, Deuter 28l Aspen, and 2 different models of the Gregory Jade 28sl. They all hurt!

Here's my much abbreviated list:

wear:
socks
light trail shoes
yoga pants
undies
sport bra
shirt
scarf
sunhat
sunglasses

pack:
2 pair socks
flip flops
yoga pants
sweat pants to sleep in/ wear on the trail
short sleeve shirt
long sleeve shirt
undies
sport bra
Kindle
charger
adapter for Spain
phone
phone charger
headphones
brick charger- my only incidental and I would really like to take it, even though it's heavy
buff
comb
contacts
small bottle contact solution
glasses
ear plugs
eye mask
sleep sack
2 pens
journal
key chain flash light
advil
melatonin
Vit C, multivitamin, Zinc
tampons
shampoo bar soap
Scrubba to wash clothes
sunscreen
toothpaste 1 ounce!!!!!
toothbrush
passport
credit cards-- not even in a wallet!
tissues
lip goo with SPF
arm warmers-- bought light performance ones
nail clippers
2 protein bars
small packet of nut butter~~ 2 oz.
gum

not taking but want:
camera
light sleeping bag (light = 1.5 lb)
electric toothbrush

I don't feel like this is a lengthy list, and it's too heavy for me to carry. Not sure what to do. if you see anything on my list you don't think i need, let me know. It just seems like so little stuff to me. I wouldn't normally travel this light. (I see why people walk the AT naked!!!)

When you say "brick charger" what exactly do you mean? What make is your phone - if it's modern and not an Apple chances are the Kindle and the phone can share a charger.
There's possibly a flashlight app on your phone already?
You don't say which Camino you'll be on but if a sub-30 litre pack is causing you grief then it's either the wrong pack fitting or you need to consider luggage transfer by the Spanish Post Office or similar because you need to add they day's water and food weight to your list.

 

[kelleymac]

My backpack feels too heavy and I am concerned. I have tried 5 backpacks so far-- Osprey Sirrus 24, OspreyTempest 30, Deuter 28l Aspen, and 2 different models of the Gregory Jade 28sl. They all hurt!

Here's my much abbreviated list:

wear:
socks
light trail shoes
yoga pants
undies
sport bra
shirt
scarf
sunhat
sunglasses

pack:
2 pair socks
flip flops
yoga pants
sweat pants to sleep in/ wear on the trail
short sleeve shirt
long sleeve shirt
undies
sport bra
Kindle
charger
adapter for Spain
phone
phone charger
headphones
brick charger- my only incidental and I would really like to take it, even though it's heavy
buff
comb
contacts
small bottle contact solution
glasses
ear plugs
eye mask
sleep sack
2 pens
journal
key chain flash light
advil
melatonin
Vit C, multivitamin, Zinc
tampons
shampoo bar soap
Scrubba to wash clothes
sunscreen
toothpaste 1 ounce!!!!!
toothbrush
passport
credit cards-- not even in a wallet!
tissues
lip goo with SPF
arm warmers-- bought light performance ones
nail clippers
2 protein bars
small packet of nut butter~~ 2 oz.
gum

not taking but want:
camera
light sleeping bag (light = 1.5 lb)
electric toothbrush

I don't feel like this is a lengthy list, and it's too heavy for me to carry. Not sure what to do. if you see anything on my list you don't think i need, let me know. It just seems like so little stuff to me. I wouldn't normally travel this light. (I see why people walk the AT naked!!!)

I advise you try other backpacks-- I am slight across the shoulders and I tried a number of packs before I found one (LLBean brand) that felt right. (LLBean, AT38)

Also-- adjust the various straps. The last time I walked I spend the first three days in pain by the afternoon on the right side of my back. A muscle just kept seizing up and feeling hard as a rock. This had never happened before, and I thought I must be getting old and/or not getting enough exercise. But then, as I lay on the ground trying to get my back to stop hiring (waiting for motrin to take effect), I was looking at my backpack and noticed that the strap that held the waistband close to the pack has loosened. Aha! I was hesitantly triumphant! I tightened up the strap and felt the difference immediately. I walked the rest of the way without any back pain.

 

[Delphinoula]

Toiletries maybe some adjustments possible. Solid shampoo take for washing clothes. Solid deo from rush worlds great. Sunscreen doubles as moisturizer. I saw some dry pill toothpaste. Buff multi use hair drying.
You need to be comfy with the weight. Leave what you do not use and get what you cannot do with out on the walk. It came true for me again you body need some days to adjust to your different balancing after most 7 days you do not feel the weight anymore.
Bon Camino

 

[VeganCamino]

When you say "brick charger" what exactly do you mean? What make is your phone - if it's modern and not an Apple chances are the Kindle and the phone can share a charger.
There's possibly a flashlight app on your phone already?
You don't say which Camino you'll be on but if a sub-30 litre pack is causing you grief then it's either the wrong pack fitting or you need to consider luggage transfer by the Spanish Post Office or similar because you need to add they day's water and food weight to your list.

Thanks for the reminder about my phone light. The brick is a backup battery for both my phone and Kindle. I feel safer having it in case all the plugs are occupied in the hostel and I can't charge my phone.

 

[VeganCamino]

I advise you try other backpacks-- I am slight across the shoulders and I tried a number of packs before I found one (LLBean brand) that felt right. (LLBean, AT38)

Also-- adjust the various straps. The last time I walked I spend the first three days in pain by the afternoon on the right side of my back. A muscle just kept seizing up and feeling hard as a rock. This had never happened before, and I thought I must be getting old and/or not getting enough exercise. But then, as I lay on the ground trying to get my back to stop hiring (waiting for motrin to take effect), I was looking at my backpack and noticed that the strap that held the waistband close to the pack has loosened. Aha! I was hesitantly triumphant! I tightened up the strap and felt the difference immediately. I walked the rest of the way without any back pain.

Ha. Yes. The correct fit makes all the difference.

 

[Anamya]

I feel safer having it in case all the plugs are occupied in the hostel and I can't charge my phone.

Then it is a matter of calculating what hurts more: carrying the brinck or spending a day without phone.
I totally recommend people to travel with their phones - can be used for bookings, taxis, etc. But while you are walking, you can just leave it in airplane mode and the battery will last much longer, as you wont be browsing or anything.

Like, I understand the brick is useful and I would carry one too if I could stand the weight - just seems to be a bit much for someone already concerned about weight. Would you maybe be able to find a smaller brick then?

 

[domigee]

I feel safer having it in case all the plugs are occupied in the hostel and I can't charge my phone.

On all my caminos I have always been able to recharge my phone...
Also, why not try downloading the Kindle App on your phone? No added weight

 

[MichelleElynHogan]

It’s called progress and if you would like to go back a thousand years feel free, go wrong ? Really my head hurts

Progress, or is progress to be found in digressing a bit?

 

[VeganCamino]

Then it is a matter of calculating what hurts more: carrying the brinck or spending a day without phone.
I totally recommend people to travel with their phones - can be used for bookings, taxis, etc. But while you are walking, you can just leave it in airplane mode and the battery will last much longer, as you wont be browsing or anything.

Like, I understand the brick is useful and I would carry one too if I could stand the weight - just seems to be a bit much for someone already concerned about weight. Would you maybe be able to find a smaller brick then?

Possibly smaller. I think as a woman I feel safer with my brick, esp since I'll be on 3 different caminos for the first time. And you are right, it's heavy so it's a trade off.

 

[Deleted member 67185]

This is 4.8 ounces/136 grams and is more than sufficient for 'just in case'.

 

[C clearly]

A 1kg sleeping bag seems quite heavy? Mine is 387 gms. (0.85 lbs)

A 387 g sleeping bag is not likely to be very warm. I'm curious what brand it is - I assume it must be down. At 450 g, mine is barely warm enough for chilly spring and fall conditions.

 

[Robo]

A 387 g sleeping bag is not likely to be very warm. I'm curious what brand it is - I assume it must be down. At 450 g, mine is barely warm enough for chilly spring and fall conditions.

It's a Sea to Summit. Down filled. Comfort 5C (41F) Lower 0C (32F)

 

[C clearly]

It's a Sea to Summit. Down filled. Comfort 5C (41F) Lower 0C (32F)

That is light! Definitely worth going light (and non bulky) as long as you have layers when needed.

 

[trecile]

How rainy will the Norte be in July?

If it's anything like last July the answer is a lot!

 

[Former member 94614]

Buy some sew on snaps like these. Sew one side to the liner and the other side to the quilt. Don't buy the really small snaps, they aren't strong enough to hold it in place.
View attachment 35899

(i put the quilt inside the liner and sewed the bottom edge in- works really well.)