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I am not one who would ever check my pack. I carried mine on board wrapped in its rain cover.When the backpack is checked baggage, should I get it wrapped in plastic at the airport.This would make any damage to the pack minimal. What is the best way to fly with a backpack
Thank you for your post. Wondering what to do about poles if not checking my pack? I'm guessing checking the poles separately is the only alternative.I am 71 years old and have flown a lot over my lifetime. My luggage has only been lost 4 times, and was always located within 2 weeks. ONLY 4. However, my backpack is special to me. Not just for its cost but because it fits me right, the straps are worn to my body, I couldn't get one like it on the Camino. Similarly, everything in my backpack I selected or chose carefully in order to be able to carry it myself on this very long walk. Therefore, I would not consider checking my backpack. I think losing it would ruin the Camino for me. I would not take a chance.
Thank you for the reply. I'm hoping, since my flight is non-stop from Philly to Madrid, that the chances are a checked pack will make it okay... just longer retrieving from baggage claim : ( Here's hoping both are packs travel on the same planes we do!!It's funny.. This May it will be a first flight in my life! I didn't need it before and ok, I'm scared a bit.. But I have to get over it, so why not before the Camino?!
I bought a flight ticket and I checked in my baggage, because I don't know the size of backpack exactly, but I do know it's too big for taking on the board in this flight company.. Hope I did a good decision, because I don't want to loose my backpack on the first flight..
I made sure to pick a backpack that was 40 liters or less that I could carry onto the plane during the trip out. It ensured that I did not overpack. I went to Lowes and bought pre-made plumbing pipe pieces and constructed a container that that had screw on ends that I placed my poles and Swiss Army knife in that was checked. I glued everything together, except the opening. I used a permanent marker to tell security which end to unscrew.Thank you for your post. Wondering what to do about poles if not checking my pack? I'm guessing checking the poles separately is the only alternative.
Thank you!When the backpack is checked baggage, should I get it wrapped in plastic at the airport.This would make any damage to the pack minimal. What is the best way to fly with a backpack
a 36L Gregory or Osprey fit into the overheadsPros - My hiking poles, even when collapsed, do not fit into my backpack. So I wrap the poles with my pack. Both the poles, braced against the pack, and the pack straps and snaps and and all other loose ends are protected.
Cons - Sending as checked luggage* puts everything at risk if the airline loses or mishandles. Also the significant amount of poly wrapping used is not environmentally friendly (at all).
*The size of the packs that most people use is usually too large to be a carry-on.
Thank you... I like the PVC idea!I made sure to pick a backpack that was 40 liters or less that I could carry onto the plane during the trip out. It ensured that I did not overpack. I went to Lowes and bought pre-made plumbing pipe pieces and constructed a container that that had screw on ends that I placed my poles and Swiss Army knife in that was checked. I glued everything together, except the opening. I used a permanent marker to tell security which end to unscrew.
On the way home, I bought a bag in Santiago de Compostela and checked everything in as it was not important if it was delayed.
For those who want to carry a knife, I would recommend you procure an Opinel No. 10 with corkscrew. I started in St. Jean, and bought mine in the sports store across, and slightly down from the Pilgrim's Office. Just the thing to open a bottle of wine, and prepare food to eat.
Thank you for your reply .. . much appreciate the information! So many unknowns as a newbie ; )Poles and backpacks are two separate things. I know that the odds are low that my pack will not make it to my destination, but if you read the forum regularly, you know that it happens, and it causes a HUGE inconvenience. This is especially true for those of us who have an international return trip booked and can't really wait for four days for our pack to make it to SJPP or some other city.
Poles are another matter. People's experiences differ greatly, as do the rules of the security agencies of the many countries represented on the forum. So it is always best to speak with specificity.
I have carried on my hiking poles for the last 8 years, through US security, with absolutely no problem. (I used to check them in a cardboard tube, along with my pocket knife, but in 2009 they got lost and it was a hassle to replace as I was rushing to get to Sevilla). Others on the forum have had the same experience and always carry on poles. For years people had been saying, no it's prohibited, but we never had an example till recently. I can't remember when or who, but I know that that has changed -- a forum member reported that he/she was not able to carry on poles through TSA at a US airport.
I will continue to carry on my poles until I'm told otherwise. I carry a duffel bag with me so that I can check them if I need to. I always mail a duffel up to Santiago upon arrival in Spain, so that I can fill the bag up with goodies like olive oil for the return trip. That means I always have a duffel bag on me when I go to Spain.
Checking poles is much less of a potential problem than checking a backpack, IMO. And I agree with everyone who says that if it doesn't fit as a carryon, it is likely way too big for the camino.
Be aware that only if your luggage accompanies you when you arrive in country is it exempt from any customs and excise duties that might otherwise apply. In practice, it appears that the item will be held by customs for assessment and, unless you have arranged with the person to whom it is sent to pay any duties, will not be released.I suspect my question has probaby been answered somewhere on this site before...has anyone ever shipped their backpack on ahead say via UPS or Fedex?
Purchase them there. I bought mine in StJPdP. A huge selection and reasonably priced.Thank you for your post. Wondering what to do about poles if not checking my pack? I'm guessing checking the poles separately is the only alternative.
My poles are carbon fiber z-poles with rubber tips. I carried them inside my pack, no problem flying from US. I didn't carry them on from Santiago, mailed them home.Thank you for your post. Wondering what to do about poles if not checking my pack? I'm guessing checking the poles separately is the only alternative.
Poles and backpacks are two separate things. I know that the odds are low that my pack will not make it to my destination, but if you read the forum regularly, you know that it happens, and it causes a HUGE inconvenience. This is especially true for those of us who have an international return trip booked and can't really wait for four days for our pack to make it to SJPP or some other city.
Poles are another matter. People's experiences differ greatly, as do the rules of the security agencies of the many countries represented on the forum. So it is always best to speak with specificity.
I have carried on my hiking poles for the last 8 years, through US security, with absolutely no problem. (I used to check them in a cardboard tube, along with my pocket knife, but in 2009 they got lost and it was a hassle to replace as I was rushing to get to Sevilla). Others on the forum have had the same experience and always carry on poles. For years people had been saying, no it's prohibited, but we never had an example till recently. I can't remember when or who, but I know that that has changed -- a forum member reported that he/she was not able to carry on poles through TSA at a US airport.
I will continue to carry on my poles until I'm told otherwise. I carry a duffel bag with me so that I can check them if I need to. I always mail a duffel up to Santiago upon arrival in Spain, so that I can fill the bag up with goodies like olive oil for the return trip. That means I always have a duffel bag on me when I go to Spain.
Checking poles is much less of a potential problem than checking a backpack, IMO. And I agree with everyone who says that if it doesn't fit as a carryon, it is likely way too big for the camino.
Thank you!Purchase them there. I bought mine in StJPdP. A huge selection and reasonably priced.
Thank you! All good info and appreciatedWhen we fly with our big backpacks usually we have a rental car waiting so we put the packs in heavy canvas duffel bags. For the camino this wasn't practical and we picked up some inexpensive laundry bags. We left them at our first night / last night hotel for pickup with a few other pieces of gear we could replace easily and cheaply (but after 11 weeks we got them back.)
Using the bags keeps the straps from hanging up on anything, reduces the chances of losing anything from the pockets, causes a bit more trouble getting in so it reduces the chance of pilferage and makes the bags more distinctive at baggage claims.
Oh, yes. Bring your boots unto the plane with you. If your baggage gets lost you can replace everything in it except your already broken-in footwear.
Thank you! Not sure I want to trust TSA in Philly to let me on with poles.. checking them sounds like a good plan.I agree with everything Laurie has posted here.
I too have carried my pack with poles inside every year since 2009. Some years twice.
Always check them on the way home.
I buy an opinal knife in SPAIN.
I know many people who have had their camino dream shattered when their carefully planned and selected pack and contents did not arrive with them.
Like @peregrina2000 I will continue to carry my pack aboard.
Others post that their checked pack did not get lost......it never does... until it does.
Thank you!My poles are carbon fiber z-poles with rubber tips. I carried them inside my pack, no problem flying from US. I didn't carry them on from Santiago, mailed them home.
Thank you.. appreciate the useful info!!When we fly with our big backpacks usually we have a rental car waiting so we put the packs in heavy canvas duffel bags. For the camino this wasn't practical and we picked up some inexpensive laundry bags. We left them at our first night / last night hotel for pickup with a few other pieces of gear we could replace easily and cheaply (but after 11 weeks we got them back.)
Using the bags keeps the straps from hanging up on anything, reduces the chances of losing anything from the pockets, causes a bit more trouble getting in so it reduces the chance of pilferage and makes the bags more distinctive at baggage claims.
Oh, yes. Bring your boots unto the plane with you. If your baggage gets lost you can replace everything in it except your already broken-in footwear.
Thank you for the reply. Z poles also and would love to carry on.... just leery of TSA in Philly.My poles are carbon fiber z-poles with rubber tips. I carried them inside my pack, no problem flying from US. I didn't carry them on from Santiago, mailed them home.
what you can do is plan to carry you z poles in your pack and then check them if for some reason tsa stops you. I have not heard of anyone with rubber tip z poles having trouble flying out of the USAThank you for the reply. Z poles also and would love to carry on.... just leery of TSA in Philly.
Thank you for the reply. Z poles also and would love to carry on.... just leery of TSA in Philly.
Thank you... great idea!I usually get a postal tube and cut it to fit my z-poles.
I mark it as if I was going to check them...but simply put them in my pack and carry through TSA. I have never had a second look or a question in many trips thru TSA.
If, (for the first time) I was denied by TSA, I would be able to simply go back and check just the poles.
I do allow a little extra time just in case.
I do not expect it to ever happen.
My wife has done the same thing over the same period of time. She uses Pacer Poles with the large horizontal hand grips.
Thank you for the suggestion. . much appreciated!I would put my collapsed poles inside the backpack (Osprey Kestrel 38 Li) and place the backpack in a homemade carton/box made of paperboard (say from a refrigerator, or milk box) secured with packaging tape; and cord for handling. I'll just throw away the carton (for recycling) after claiming my baggage at my European gateway airport... same procedure going home.
I might even just secure the backpack straps with packaging tape although the carton (free for asking from the grocery store) or a sack (for shipping rice, 1/2 Euro) will protect it better. I shall be using the rain cover for rain.
Just keep packaging tape in mind when travelling - strong & dependable, very cheap (1 Euro) and available in groceries, office supplies and 7-11-ish stores. I came back from Seoul 2 weeks ago with an additional very large bag (16 kg) full of whatnot. I did not trust the bag material and zipper to hold up to baggage handling at the airports so I taped it in a net of - yes, you guessed it - packaging tape. It arrived in Manila like a beggar but it was unscathed.
Buen Camino!
Thank you Janet! After reading the many posts.. . I feel pretty comfortable with carrying my pack on board. I did book a flight on Iberia from Madrid to Barritz however did not pay for a check bag.. guess I'll hope for the best and check if I have to. I noticed you're from Boise.. although I'm in Colorado now.. my photo was taken last year on the top of Brundage Mt.Grace,
You will find a wide variety in people's experience with shipping trekking poles as a carry-on on this forum if you do a search. Some have had poles confiscated or had to check them. Others, like us had no difficulty getting our collapsible Z-poles (in their handy carrying casees tucked in our backpacks) onto flights in the US as part of our carry on allowance. We checked and our packs always fit in the " carry-on sample box" provided at the check-in desk. We did check our packs for the short hops from Paris to Barritz and from Santiago back to Paris due to the many individual accounts listed on this forum of people who had poles confiscated at security in parts of Europe. We paid for the checked luggage at the time we bought those particular tickets so it was much less expensive than checking at the gate. We also had no difficulty with our packs without a cover for the short non-stop hops. We did secure buckles and tried to ensure that there were not too many hanging straps. A little tape is good for this purpose. Some of the discount airlines have a more stringent limit on carry on luggage size, too.
Janet
When the backpack is checked baggage, should I get it wrapped in plastic at the airport.This would make any damage to the pack minimal. What is the best way to fly with a backpack
When the backpack is checked baggage, should I get it wrapped in plastic at the airport.This would make any damage to the pack minimal. What is the best way to fly with a backpack
I've seen that happen too. Just a few months ago.In the past month I flew twice (domestic, US, on large planes) and was near the end of the line to board the plane both flights. By that time, all of the overhead bins had been taken and many of us had to check our carry on bags just before entering the plane.
Do you mean that they will fit in all airlines overheads, or just on American planes. I know that all air;ines overheads are not the same size.a 36L Gregory or Osprey fit into the overheads
While this is tru out of Santiago it is not true everywhere. I can fly out of Montreal with poles in the cabbin.If you take your poles, you have to check your bag.
All airlines have different types of aircraft. Flights on US carriers to Europe are done on different aircrafts. Therefor, all overheads are different sizes. Best thing is to go to the airport you are flying out of and see if your backpack fits in the frame they use to determine if your pack is the right size to be carried on board. And if airport is too gar away, go on line and find out the allowed dimensions, and measure your pack.Do you mean that they will fit in all airlines overheads, or just on American planes. I know that all air;ines overheads are not the same size.
Maybe next time wrap an extra roll of plastic wrap to the outside of the pack labeled "For TSA Use."To prepare my pack I tighten any loose straps and their ends so they don't get snagged by the equipment. I then wrap the pack with plastic wrap from the market, get a good brands that really sticks well. Mt pack had a handle on the back so that it can hang and I leave that clear so there is a place to attach the baggage tag. Inside the plastic wrap I place a sheet of paper that is visible has the information for where I will be staying the first night and my cell phone number.
You can always purchase poles along the way ,I will next time and the price is pretty evenThank you for your post. Wondering what to do about poles if not checking my pack? I'm guessing checking the poles separately is the only alternative.
What did you do with the suitcase once on the Camino?Three Caminos and each time I got a cheap used suitcase at the local thrift store and put my pack (and poles) in it and check it at the airport. My wife did the same thing in a separate suitcase. Never a problem. Am I lucky? Perhaps.
One time my suitcase came out early at the airport in Madrid but we had to wait till almost everyone else's came out before my wife's suitcase came out. We were a bit apprehensive waiting so long but all was ok. Just a bit frightened for ten minutes.....Going for 4th Camino this May and will do the same thing. All in Gods hands.
Hi, I used a 55ltr backpack and carried it onboard the plane then you're sure to arrive at your destination without loosing your gear. ( You can buy a sticks and staffs cheaply on the Camino.When the backpack is checked baggage, should I get it wrapped in plastic at the airport.This would make any damage to the pack minimal. What is the best way to fly with a backpack
Hello Deb.Doug. Once we arrived at our Spainish destination, the old Thrifty Suitcases were donated to the people of Spain. There was always someone that wanted them. Once we arrived in SDC we purchased new ones to put our packs in for the trip back home. We use the new ones in our other travelling adventures. EdWhat did you do with the suitcase once on the Camino?
Where did you get this lockable zippered bag?I have a lockable zippered bag that takes the backpack and poles and as I am travelling from 3 weeks before I start my camino I already have a medium size carry-on bag. So the backpack will be checked! This will be transfer to Ivar in SDC. The zippered bag doubles as rain cover & security system in the albergues. (On the way home the boots can go in here as well - but on the outward leg the boots go in the cabin.)
Hi Lee - its either the Osprey or Dueter one - do a google search and hopefully something suitable will come up. If I can find a model number I will get back to you. CheersWhere did you get this lockable zippered bag?
Hi Lee - its either the Osprey or Dueter one - do a google search and hopefully something suitable will come up. If I can find a model number I will get back to you. Cheers
Thanks. Are you using the large size?I have used his bag for several trips, including my Camino hike in Oct. It is getting a little the worse for wear looking but remains intact. It weighs nothing and folds up quite small in my pack after I arrive. My 48L Osprey and poles fit inside. There is a tie at the top and I stencil my name on the outside. Available at M.E.C. for Canadians or online for others. Costs about CAD 7.00
https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5046-853/Sleeping-Bag-Storage-Bag
Thanks. Are you using the large size?
I will put my backpack, poles and Swiss pocket knife in a cheap travelbag because not allowed on the airplane.
Backpack exceeds 5kg and rest prohibited. That leaves me no choice.
I lost my luggage only once until now due to the fact that it was delayed between flights and missed it only one day
By the way, I sent my backpack in one of those zippered IKEA bags that so perfectly fit my 36L bag, and supposedly would have made the bag easier for luggage handlers to handle.I am about to start my Camino, left Portland Oregon yesterday morning, thru Newark, and arrived in Paris a few hours ago. I have a short flight to Biarritz in a few hours. BUT MY BACKPACK NEVER MADE IT TO PARIS! It is apparently still in Newark having not been transferred to my connecting flight. I'm trying not to freak out and just think of this as "my first challenge on this journey" but I'm really worried that the bag won't ever reach me! And I had so carefully made a few reservations (orrisson, roncasvilla) so that my first few days would be less stressful. Guess that plan won't happen. Trying to not get too discouraged and hope that my bag actually reaches me in Biarritz in a day or two...
Although I loved this when I got it at IKEA and even more when I saw how perfectly my pack and poles fit in it, it NEVER MADE IT ONTO MY CONNECTING FLIGHT! So here I am in Paris ready to make plane train and bus connections to start my Camino with no pack. I am praying that the airline gets it together and actually locates my bag and transports it to Biarritz , where I guess I am going to cool my heels awaiting my pack and delaying my Camino. Hoping the trip only gets better from here.We used this bag from IKEA for two Caminos. It is sturdy and easily folds up to store in your pack. On my first Camino there were more bed bugs so we stored our pack in the bag in the albergues. I also used it to transport my pack and poles as checked luggage on my return home. Held up very well.
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I am about to start my Camino, left Portland Oregon yesterday morning, thru Newark, and arrived in Paris a few hours ago. I have a short flight to Biarritz in a few hours. BUT MY BACKPACK NEVER MADE IT TO PARIS! It is apparently still in Newark having not been transferred to my connecting flight. I'm trying not to freak out and just think of this as "my first challenge on this journey" but I'm really worried that the bag won't ever reach me! And I had so carefully made a few reservations (orrisson, roncasvilla) so that my first few days would be less stressful. Guess that plan won't happen. Trying to not get too discouraged and hope that my bag actually reaches me in Biarritz in a day or two...
Oh no I am sorry for your hernia! I hope you can do your Camino soon and that this is just a small setback. Thank you for your note, it made me feel better.Bad luck, but it is not the end...The Camino want you to start later...
Hopefully the pack and poles will get to you soon so you can be on your Camino.
My Camino is postponed due to a dual hernia.
Sh.t happens.
Mark, this sounds very large, even with a CPAP. Admittedly, I have no idea about how big your current machine is when packed, nor how much else you are carrying. What I do know is that I managed to carry my CPAP and medications last year using a Dueter Guide 45+. It does expand out to 55li, and it was necessary to use all that volume in the early stages, but I was able to get almost everything within the standard 45li as the volume of consumables I was carrying decreased.I have a large backback, 70 L, since I have to carry my CPAP in it. I will have to check my backpack and have bought a car seat bag used to transport a car seat on a airplane. I found these on Amazon for around $10. I hope it works well.
We carried on our kyte 46 and kestrel 48 Osprey packs. Check a separate bag with poles knife and a few clothes for our after Camino stay on the coast. It was all free because we didn't fly budget airlinesThank you for your post. Wondering what to do about poles if not checking my pack? I'm guessing checking the poles separately is the only alternative.