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Just wondering what folks thoughts are on carrying 2 pair of footwear for the Camino??
I have read through several posts and I am still uncomfortable about what shoe/boot to choose. I will be leaving for my 2nd Camino in June. My first Camino ended in Leon due to blisters and foot pain. I wore keen targhee mid boots, Vaseline, 2 pairs of socks (liner -cool max and smart wool). After returning home heartbroken I was set on wearing trail shoes next time. I saw a lot of people wearing trail runners and even crosstrainers and they were dancing down the path while I was trudging along. I have a narrow heel and require a wider toe box (blisters formed on both little toes even with the keens wide toe box). I'm fretting about this and only have 2 months to find shoes and break them in..any help would be appreciated. Trail shoes (low top) or mid top boots? I know everyone is different but what have you found to have the best cushion and are trail hikers (low top) less likely to cause blistering? Thank you!
My first Camino ended in Leon due to blisters and foot pain. I wore keen targhee mid boots, Vaseline, 2 pairs of socks (liner -cool max and smart wool). I'm fretting about this and only have 2 months to find shoes and break them in..!
Wow, a few questions to get through!
Hot weather will make your feet swell, FACT. After one hour of activity, your feet will swell further. Add a little altitude and they are bigger still. In the morning your feet are teeny, in the afternoon they are at their biggest.
With this in mind, try your shoes on in stores in the afternoon with socks you are likely to wear on the trail (will come to socks shortly).
When trying on, you need to allow for that swelling so as a general rule you should have an index fingers width, with a little resistance, space at your heel.
This should give you enough room.
Good outdoor stores have a gradient ramp you can try out because just walking on a flat shop floor means nothing really. When you use the gradient ramp, it tells you how much you move in the shoe, important for the hills of the camino.
A good shoe will hold your heel comfortably at the rear, and hold your foot firmly across the top with enough room in the toe to wiggle them. This should prevent slippage towards the front of the shoe when walking down that gradient ramp.
Heel slippage is a big no no and toe cramping in the ends will give you those black toenails which are excruciating!
As an example of my own feet, I swell 3/4 of a size on a summer camino.
Hi all,
I'm not quite sure why I havn't thought of this before but better late than never!
I'm a veteran of one Camino Frances in summer, one in winter. A Camino Muxia, a Camino Finistere and finally, imminently a Camino Catalan. When I'm not walking the Camino, I lead hikes in the mountains. When I'm not doing that, I work in an outdoor store in the UK fitting boots and socks all day long.
Having learnt what usually works when it comes to footwear combinations I can offer any advice, in the build up to 'Camino season', to those pondering on what to buy and how to make it all work.
There are lots of little tricks you can use to lace boots, deal with changes of temperatures during your walking day, how to prevent 'hot-spots' developing into blisters, taking space out of a pair of boots without compromising the fit, how best to layer your socks and what fabrics are best for different seasons.
Feel free to fire away
Buen Camino
Greg
Hi all,
I'm not quite sure why I havn't thought of this before but better late than never!
I'm a veteran of one Camino Frances in summer, one in winter. A Camino Muxia, a Camino Finistere and finally, imminently a Camino Catalan. When I'm not walking the Camino, I lead hikes in the mountains. When I'm not doing that, I work in an outdoor store in the UK fitting boots and socks all day long.
Having learnt what usually works when it comes to footwear combinations I can offer any advice, in the build up to 'Camino season', to those pondering on what to buy and how to make it all work.
There are lots of little tricks you can use to lace boots, deal with changes of temperatures during your walking day, how to prevent 'hot-spots' developing into blisters, taking space out of a pair of boots without compromising the fit, how best to layer your socks and what fabrics are best for different seasons.
Feel free to fire away
Buen Camino
Greg
Hi GregConsider lightweight ventilated hiking shoes. Surely an insurance company wouldn't deny your claim if you wore sandals! Thatd be a good fight in court especially when some outdoor companies make specific hiking sandals.
My feet didn't get measurably longer, just more swollen. Therefore, I looked for shoes that wouldn't bind laterally across the foot as I loosened them. I responded to swelling by loosening the laces, which effectively kept the shoes at the same level of tightness without creating any pressure points.Greg:
I have a question for you related to how much larger to buy shoes. I just read a blog by a friend thru hiking the AT and he had to just replace his boots one month in with boots 2 sizes larger because of issues with his feet. His partner had to get bigger boots a week before. I read Wild by Michelle Strayed and she had too small boots and all types of problems on her PCT.
So I just bought my new shoes for the Camino at a reputable outdoor dealer. They measured my foot with the Brannock device and I am a 10 with all my hiking socks on (which is my normal street size). The rep puts me in a 10.5 and says this will be fine. I have a finger's distance in the back as you say, but the shoe feels comfortable but not loose. I want to go up a full size to 11 but the rep says that will be too much.
This is the same place that sold my friend and his partner their boots...
How do you tell how much extra space is enough?
I don't want to need new boots when I get to Spain. So far in my training walks they seem fine.
Thanks for your advice.
Rambler
From days of lurking, i think that almost EVERYONE has questions about feet! Ha!
Here's my question:
What's the best way to strengthen ankles well before the camino? Is lots of walking enough, or are there specific exercises that will make things easier later on?
Thank you for your advise. I do have a question, I have been walking daily since September 2013 with the shoes I plan on wearing on the Camino, Merrill with streetfleet inserts the one that are purchased from a runners store. Now since February this year I think I have developed tendinitis. I have been icing my foot but yet no relief. I think that maybe my shoe is too flexiable. That maybe a stiff sole shoe would be better, like red wings. Your thoughts.Hi all,
I'm not quite sure why I havn't thought of this before but better late than never!
I'm a veteran of one Camino Frances in summer, one in winter. A Camino Muxia, a Camino Finistere and finally, imminently a Camino Catalan. When I'm not walking the Camino, I lead hikes in the mountains. When I'm not doing that, I work in an outdoor store in the UK fitting boots and socks all day long.
Having learnt what usually works when it comes to footwear combinations I can offer any advice, in the build up to 'Camino season', to those pondering on what to buy and how to make it all work.
There are lots of little tricks you can use to lace boots, deal with changes of temperatures during your walking day, how to prevent 'hot-spots' developing into blisters, taking space out of a pair of boots without compromising the fit, how best to layer your socks and what fabrics are best for different seasons.
Feel free to fire away
Buen Camino
Greg
Thank you for your concern. The problem is on top of my arch, left foot. I did see a podiatrist who told me to ice it and stay off of it. My problem is staying off of it. I don't want to stop my training but I know I have to. I am looking for inserts for my shoes. What do you think of high end off the shelf verses podiatrist custom made.Hi Jabaldo. I throw in my comments regards the tendonitis as I'm a Podiatrist. I'd be getting the problem diagnosed properly first. There could be a range of reasons for the pain & so treatment will vary. If it is a tendonitis and you've had it since February (so maybe 3 months ago), the problem may now be more chronic. Ice, rest & anti-inflammatory medication MAY help but I'd be getting it addressed professionally.
Where is the pain & is there a specific activity/movement that creates the pain ie. bending the foot/ankle up or down or ...........
Thank you for your concern. The problem is on top of my arch, left foot. I did see a podiatrist who told me to ice it and stay off of it. My problem is staying off of it. I don't want to stop my training but I know I have to. I am looking for inserts for my shoes. What do you think of high end off the shelf verses podiatrist custom made.
Again thank you for your input.
Thank you for your concern I do appreciate it. I do agree I have an appointment to see my guy again for custom fit inserts. I have off the shelf ones that he sold me that are great, I am looking forward to the custom ones.Jabaldo, I cant be too specific as I don't fully know your case but broadly we use custom foot orthoses when we want to be specific about design features. We use "off the shelf" orthoses when we don't need specific features. We tend to use custom devices far more for the conditions I see though as EVERY foot is unique, their shape is unique & the requirements of the individual are unique. There are so many factors that lead to a person developing pain/injury including footwear, terrain, muscle strength/balance, conditioning, biomechanics........... When we prescribe an orthosis we take all of this into consideration. We write a prescription for an orthosis that addresses the underling causes & this forms part of an overall treatment plan (which may include footwear changes, stretching/strengthening, walking/running advice....). I never "just prescribe an orthotic".
So for you, I think custom in general is far better, when it is prescribed correctly & forms part of an overall plan. They will last longer, they will address the issue more accurately and SHOULD be more comfortable. I highlight SHOULD because many people on this forum & patients I have seen will say their old orthoses were uncomfortable - that is generally because it wasn't "prescribed" to the specifics of your foot. Too many practitioners see orthotics as a "cash cow" & spend no time in understanding the cause of the persons pain.
This is not a sales pitch!!!
In 2012 I walked from Astorga to Santiago wearing Salomon Elio mid-GTX boots and LOVED them. Lightweight, flexible, fit my foot like a glove. So much that I bought another pair so I wouldn't be without. Now for the past month, I have been walking 40-50 km/week to prepare for the camino in October. I've developed soreness on the ball of one foot at the big-toe joint and am worried about it. The guy who makes my orthotics suggests that I need a stiffer boot (with a shank) so that my sensitive joint doesn't take the brunt of every step. I am not "hard" on my shoes and have favoured flexibility over the clunkiness of a heavier boot. But I am in my 60s and maybe need to do something different. I have a narrow heel, fairly wide foot and high arch, and mobile forefoot. Do you have any advice? Thanks.
We always wear Crocs for this, and they are great. I still usually wear a thin pair of socks 'just in case' so as to avoid blisters while 'sightseeing'.My question has to do with shower shoes and walking around town. Would crocs do double duty for that? I wear a 12 EE so it is hard for me to find shoes.
Thank you,
Marian
Hi all,
I'm not quite sure why I havn't thought of this before but better late than never!
I'm a veteran of one Camino Frances in summer, one in winter. A Camino Muxia, a Camino Finistere and finally, imminently a Camino Catalan. When I'm not walking the Camino, I lead hikes in the mountains. When I'm not doing that, I work in an outdoor store in the UK fitting boots and socks all day long.
Having learnt what usually works when it comes to footwear combinations I can offer any advice, in the build up to 'Camino season', to those pondering on what to buy and how to make it all work.
There are lots of little tricks you can use to lace boots, deal with changes of temperatures during your walking day, how to prevent 'hot-spots' developing into blisters, taking space out of a pair of boots without compromising the fit, how best to layer your socks and what fabrics are best for different seasons.
Feel free to fire away
Buen Camino
Greg
My experience with the foot pain like you are having was linked not to boots or socks or in-soles.
It was a result of tight calf muscles that I didn't stretch out after the daily walk.
Tight calves will pull on the achilles tendon and all the other muscles and tendons in the foot...
2 pairs of socks? Then i think "they" are talking about sockliners and socks, woolen socks. The liner is there to stop the sock from causimg friction directly on your foot. With a liner, the idea is that the sock will rub against the liner, instead of the bare skin, so you wont get (or get less) blisters.
Ive seen people use simple nylons instead of special sockliners. Same principle, but cheaper.
Please remember, what works for others may not always be a good fit for you. Feet are strange things and no 2 pairs are alike. If this 2 socks "system" works for you, do it, but first try it out before you bring it along.
I tried it and for me it did not help against blisters. I tried just about anything, but keep getting blisters. I also found it to hot (sept camino)
I guess i have feet that just get blisters when walking. No matter what. Thats ok, the blisters dont really bother me or hurt. I just pop 'm, clean 'm, put a plaster on 'm and walk on. They just take up some of my time, but after walking i have plenty of time to take care of them. Don't get me wromg, i would rather not get them. But seeing as i do, i better make the best of a blistery situation.
Last year i walked on boots. Total disaster. Foottroubles like you would not believe. With or without liners, vaseline, talkpowder and every other thing you can think of.
This year i brought 2 pairs of shoes with me. My normal nike running shoes and my nike trailrunning shoes (yes, i like Nike). I brought them both for a test, to see which one would be the best for for walking, 'cause i knew i would never ever wear boots again for a camino.
The winner was the nike zoom wildhorse trailrunners. Lightweight and very flexible and, i think what made it a winner, was the wide toebox. Much Wider then my roadrunners (lunarglide5). The combination of wide toebox and flexibility of the shoe was perfect for me. I just cant handle stiff shoes. I tried to look beyond the brand with the swoosh for trailrunners, but did not find one that was so flexible.
Next camino its back to one pair of shoes again, my beloved and flexible trailrunners
Oh and flipflops for showering and walking around town.
Can I ask a silly question?
Do you apply Vaseline all over your foot or just between the toes?
Wouldn't it melt and be absorbed by your socks and shoes?
Does it stop your feet from breathing?
Hey MarkJabaldo, I cant be too specific as I don't fully know your case but broadly we use custom foot orthoses when we want to be specific about design features. We use "off the shelf" orthoses when we don't need specific features. We tend to use custom devices far more for the conditions I see though as EVERY foot is unique, their shape is unique & the requirements of the individual are unique. There are so many factors that lead to a person developing pain/injury including footwear, terrain, muscle strength/balance, conditioning, biomechanics........... When we prescribe an orthosis we take all of this into consideration. We write a prescription for an orthosis that addresses the underling causes & this forms part of an overall treatment plan (which may include footwear changes, stretching/strengthening, walking/running advice....). I never "just prescribe an orthotic".
So for you, I think custom in general is far better, when it is prescribed correctly & forms part of an overall plan. They will last longer, they will address the issue more accurately and SHOULD be more comfortable. I highlight SHOULD because many people on this forum & patients I have seen will say their old orthoses were uncomfortable - that is generally because it wasn't "prescribed" to the specifics of your foot. Too many practitioners see orthotics as a "cash cow" & spend no time in understanding the cause of the persons pain.
This is not a sales pitch!!!
I'm starting to feel like a hobbit in my search to find a pair of boots that fit properly. After wearing a pair from New Balance around the office I found they were too tight. I have asked them too ship another pair but that will take a few weeks. Also tried a pair from Salomon but again, not quite wide enough. At this rate I will be walking barefoot like Frodo.
Dave, do you own a pair of shoes that are comfortable and reasonably sturdy? Why not take them? My spouse walks the Camino in ordinary casual shoes, not even walking shoes. He used to walk in boots (blisters, hot, heavy), then athletic shoes (New Balance) but found his feet were cramped after some kilometres and not happy, put on the ordinary shoes he had in the pack for post Camino - and has worn them walking ever since.
I wear ordinary ASIC runners because that's what suits my feet.
@Kanga - Most
I don't have any suitable shoes of any kind right now for this kind of walk. New Balance used to be my go-to shop because of my wide feet but since they've changed their lasts it's tougher to find anything that will fit.
Dave, I thought I would be barefoot on the Camino too but I kissed enough frogs but finally ended up with shoes that work. I tried on probably 20 pairs of shoes/boots and bought about 6, ending up returning all but 1. I started out with boots because so many people recommended them but ended up with Brooks Cascadia trail runners as the boots and hiking shoes hurt my Achilles. Hang in there and I know you'll find some.I'm starting to feel like a hobbit in my search to find a pair of boots that fit properly. After wearing a pair from New Balance around the office I found they were too tight. I have asked them too ship another pair but that will take a few weeks. Also tried a pair from Salomon but again, not quite wide enough. At this rate I will be walking barefoot like Frodo.
Orange.I'll be heading out June 22 from SJPdP with Merrell Protera. Just not sure if it will be the low blue, low orange, or mid grey. Me thinks it will be the newest blues, but the orange are calling me
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Dave, I thought I would be barefoot on the Camino too but I kissed enough frogs but finally ended up with shoes that work. I tried on probably 20 pairs of shoes/boots and bought about 6, ending up returning all but 1. I started out with boots because so many people recommended them but ended up with Brooks Cascadia trail runners as the boots and hiking shoes hurt my Achilles. Hang in there and I know you'll find some.
Hi Greg...you look very much like the guy in the outdoor shop in Brecon where I went to look for a pack for the Camino Frances today. I am leaving in a couple of weeks and to be honest I am really scared. I hike a lot in the Brecons etc but I have always been a bit of a wimp...always had somebody else to do ... so this is my attempt at being a bit more independent. Going through all the different posts there is a lot of conflicting advice regarding all aspects of the undertaking. However I have decided not to buy a guide book, not to get worried about keeping to some kind of schedule etc. I have decided to but the 40 litre Montane pack for the trip. Do you think this is big enough and a good make? Footwear seems to throw up all sorts of opinions. I have thought about buying a pair of British army issue desert campaign boots...they are light, probably breathable but not waterproof. They are however only £40. Then I read a lot of people saying they wish they had worn walking sandles the whole time. What in your opinion is the best footwear? Finally...poncho or rain jacket and trousers.? Sorry for so many questions... but you are experienced!Hi all,
I'm not quite sure why I havn't thought of this before but better late than never!
I'm a veteran of one Camino Frances in summer, one in winter. A Camino Muxia, a Camino Finistere and finally, imminently a Camino Catalan. When I'm not walking the Camino, I lead hikes in the mountains. When I'm not doing that, I work in an outdoor store in the UK fitting boots and socks all day long.
Having learnt what usually works when it comes to footwear combinations I can offer any advice, in the build up to 'Camino season', to those pondering on what to buy and how to make it all work.
There are lots of little tricks you can use to lace boots, deal with changes of temperatures during your walking day, how to prevent 'hot-spots' developing into blisters, taking space out of a pair of boots without compromising the fit, how best to layer your socks and what fabrics are best for different seasons.
Feel free to fire away
Buen Camino
Greg
HI am leaving in a couple of weeks and to be honest I am really scared. I have decided to but the 40 litre Montane pack for the trip. Do you think this is big enough and a good make? Footwear seems to throw up all sorts of opinions. I have thought about buying a pair of British army issue desert campaign boots...they are light, probably breathable but not waterproof. They are however only £40. Then I read a lot of people saying they wish they had worn walking sandles the whole time. What in your opinion is the best footwear? Finally...poncho or rain jacket and trousers.? Sorry for so many questions... but you are experienced!
Cheers, Tom
Doesn't everybody follow what advise they are given by themselves? I had no intention to do otherwise.@Tom Omen, there are two observations I would make about your post:
It seems to me that it is in the nature of this forum to reveal good ways of doing things that have worked well. It does not provide a pilgrim's equivalent to a Grand Unified Theory of Everything! You will need to sort out which advice you follow by yourself.
- if you specifically want Greg to answer, and are not seeking a general response, use the Conversation function
- those of us with some experience know that there is no simple single answer to what works best. Many things work, and many things that work for some won't work that well for others.
Try the same hikes in a non-Gortex hiker. I'm betting heat rash and that the problem isn't with your socks.Hi Greg and all
When I started wearing my Salomon Conquest Gortex hikers they were great. Now when I do longer hikes (4-5 hrs) I get a rash (bright red) on the tops of both feet as well as on the back of my legs above the boot. Doc says I’m allergic which I’ve never been in my life. Prescription cream doesn’t help the rash. I don’t get the rash with shorter walks so I was thinking it might be a heat rash. That’s my guess. Has anyone had similar experience? I’ve tried different socks: Moreno wool, smart wool, polyester, bamboo and with all get the rash. Has anyone had similar experience? Greg have you heard of this? Altho I’ve got an narrow ankle, I tie my hikers up using the top loop first which snugs the ankle. Its somewhat snug but its still a bit loose. Should I be worried?
I went all the outdoor shops in Bristol yesterday to not up. I have to say it was frightening the lack of knowledge displayed by the members of staff in all of them. Thankfully I met a young assistant called...James... and he had his noodle on. I tried quite a few types but have ended up buying the Moab ventilator. I don't like the look of them but they are very comfortable and I sense they could get me there if I uphold my side of the bargain. I may take a pair of sandals as well. I will take a 10 mile hike today, see how we go. Surely if worst happens you can buy footwear in Spain?Wow, a few questions to get through!
Before I answer specifics, sojourner is correct in that weight has something to do with keeping feet happy.
Think about it, the only part of your body that is in contact with the ground is those two things at the end of your legs supporting all the weight of your body and that pack.
Packing light gives your feet a fighting chance.
I also want to say that I've met people on the camino in huge boots, hiking shoes, trainers, minimal shoes AND bare footed. The people who seemed to have the most issues were the boot brigade. Less is more in this case.
Some of you have asked for specific shoes and through trial and error I would walk every spring/summer/autumn camino in men's Merrell's Moab ventilator shoes.
http://www.merrell.com/UK/en-GB/Product.mvc.aspx/15390M/30054/Mens/Moab-Ventilator
Relatively light weight, flexible, non waterproof, super comfortable straight from the box and have the Vibram sole, a hard wearing, grippier rubber, which will last about 1000 miles.
It looks like i'm promoting Merrell here, but serisouly, IMHO they make perfect camino shoes and are available worldwide.
For women, their Avian light, non gore tex is super lightweight, supportive along the sole, has air cushioning and that vibram sole but is also flexible.
http://www.merrell.com/UK/en-GB/Product.mvc.aspx/23470W/0/Womens/Avian-Light-Leather
If you have narrow feet, try Asolo, Scarpa and Salomon.
If you have wider feet try anything from Meindl.
If you are heading out in winter then a boot then becomes useful with its higher ankle support, waterproofing and stability in snowy conditions.
Bare in mind as soon as you add a waterproof, physical membrane like gore-tex into a shoe, you lose a lot of breathability even though these membranes claim to breathe, nothing can beat a ventilated shoe.
Do some weather research and see how many days its likely to rain on your chosen camino month and decide which route to take, waterproof or not.
Hot weather will make your feet swell, FACT. After one hour of activity, your feet will swell further. Add a little altitude and they are bigger still. In the morning your feet are teeny, in the afternoon they are at their biggest.
With this in mind, try your shoes on in stores in the afternoon with socks you are likely to wear on the trail (will come to socks shortly).
When trying on, you need to allow for that swelling so as a general rule you should have an index fingers width, with a little resistance, space at your heel.
This should give you enough room.
Good outdoor stores have a gradient ramp you can try out because just walking on a flat shop floor means nothing really. When you use the gradient ramp, it tells you how much you move in the shoe, important for the hills of the camino.
A good shoe will hold your heel comfortably at the rear, and hold your foot firmly across the top with enough room in the toe to wiggle them. This should prevent slippage towards the front of the shoe when walking down that gradient ramp.
Heel slippage is a big no no and toe cramping in the ends will give you those black toenails which are excruciating!
As an example of my own feet, I swell 3/4 of a size on a summer camino.
I don't use any cream, just tiger balm at the end of every day to decrease any inflammation and I massage it in firmly...my feet love me for it!
Personally I detest compeed. It is usually used by people after they have a blister. This means that it doesn't allow the blister to air or to heal fast. Oh and not forgetting the pain when you try and rip that compeed off of an open blister! ouch.
Prevention is the one and only key to being blister free.
This is where socks come in.
You've heard of the brand '1000 mile' socks?
Well, and again this is my educated opinion only, they are problematic.
Their trick is that they are double layered with the thinking that the two layers rub against each other while walking, while traditional socks will rub against your skin and potentially cause abrasions (blisters).
They also mean that if your feet get too hot, there's nothing you can do about it, your stuck with double layers.
Two layers are the way to go but its the density and materials you need to concentrate on.
Bridgedale do a thin, COOLMAX material sock. (coolmax is the independent technology you need to look for in any brand of liner sock).
http://www.bridgedale.com/men-s-coolmax-liner-everyday-outdoors-1
This coolmax, close to the skin, wicks away the moisture your feet will produce, keeping the skin dry.
Remember moist skin + abrasion = blister.
Look at the size range on the packaging of all socks.
If you are a size 6 ladies shoe and the socks come in ranges of 3-5.5 and 6-8, go for the smaller range. Socks stretch and as long as the heel of the sock fits the heel of your foot then that's what we need. If you were to take a jump to the next size range, it will not fit your foot snugly, preventing the coolmax to work effectively, and will be more prone to slipping down as they will be looser.
The next layer is a midweight, preferably with a percentage of Merino wool, hiking sock with cusioning on the heel, balls of the feet and ankle.
Here's a female's sock from Bridgedale again.
http://www.bridgedale.com/women-s-trail-diva-women-s-coolfusion-2
Notice the padding on the aforementioned areas and the elasticity on the ankle and around the main body of the foot.
This elastic prevents slippage.
The merino wool gives unparalleled blister prevention, a little warmth and cushioning for the millions of steps you'll take en-route.
This type of sock also allows the moisture that the liner socks have absorbed, to ventilate out into your shoe. If you had a waterproof shoe, this is where most of the moisture would stay.
Bridgedale guarantee most of their socks for 3 years which for socks, is immense and a show of how good they are. They are made in Britain and cost about $20 or £13.
I would take two pairs of liners and two pairs of midweights, alternating each day.
You should take your shoes and socks off at EVERY opportunity. Whenever you see a lake, pond, stream, irrigation canal...wherever.
The cold water takes the swelling down and soothes....nothing beats that feeling when on the camino so treat yourself and your feet to it as much as you can
IMPORTANT....make sure to dry your feet (and between your toes) thoroughly before putting your socks back on. Remember, moist feet + abrasion = blisters!
Leave your socks laid out on the ground and let the sun dry them out for a few minutes and when you slip them on again, it'll be like you've started walking afresh.
Now, everyone has their own tips for blister prevention.
Using the above advise and several test runs, you should find out what works out for you.
Give yourself options is my biggest piece of advice.
By that I mean....a pair of 1000 mile, double layer socks gives you one single option while using 2 separate pairs of specific socks, gives you the chance to swap them around, mix and match and take a layer away if necessary.
Take ventilated, non waterproof shoes if possible. You could always buy waterproof socks for rainy days. But a gore-tex shoe is waterproof for those 500 miles and if you get not one single day of rain....they are pointless.
I'd rather have 4 days of wet feet over 33 days of hot, blistered feet!
My final, cheeky little secret for blister prevention is this.
On day one, out of St Jean Pied de Port, into the Pyrenees, you'll see sheep wool snagged on the barbed wire fences.
Collect a handful. By the time you reach the top of the pass you'll most likely have a hot-spot on your heel. This is the first stage of a blister.
Take a seat, take shoes and socks off, dry the skin and take out a small clump of clean wool.
Shape it into a 2p (or any coin shape) flatten it out and stick it to the hot-spot with light surgical tape. That blister will never come!
Socks back on, shoes back on and get walking. It acts as a free, natural and readily available Merino blister patch ;-)
I hope that's all easy enough to follow.
Buen Camino
Not sure if this thread is still active. I just bought "Darn Tough" merino wool socks. I've been told you don't need a liner with them because they fit so snuggly. Do you have any opinion on this brand?Hi all,
I'm not quite sure why I havn't thought of this before but better late than never!
I'm a veteran of one Camino Frances in summer, one in winter. A Camino Muxia, a Camino Finistere and finally, imminently a Camino Catalan. When I'm not walking the Camino, I lead hikes in the mountains. When I'm not doing that, I work in an outdoor store in the UK fitting boots and socks all day long.
Having learnt what usually works when it comes to footwear combinations I can offer any advice, in the build up to 'Camino season', to those pondering on what to buy and how to make it all work.
There are lots of little tricks you can use to lace boots, deal with changes of temperatures during your walking day, how to prevent 'hot-spots' developing into blisters, taking space out of a pair of boots without compromising the fit, how best to layer your socks and what fabrics are best for different seasons.
Feel free to fire away
Buen Camino
Greg
I agree on the Superfeet. I also recommend SOLE brand; you place these in your oven at a low temperature until a dot changes color, then put them in your shoe or boot and walk around a bit and they conform to your personal foot profile -- sort of like custom ski boot insoles. Both Superfeet and SOLE are available in different arch configurations.I second that. Superfeet or softer, bouncier sorbathane double strike insoles.
GregHi all,
I'm not quite sure why I havn't thought of this before but better late than never!
I'm a veteran of one Camino Frances in summer, one in winter. A Camino Muxia, a Camino Finistere and finally, imminently a Camino Catalan. When I'm not walking the Camino, I lead hikes in the mountains. When I'm not doing that, I work in an outdoor store in the UK fitting boots and socks all day long.
Having learnt what usually works when it comes to footwear combinations I can offer any advice, in the build up to 'Camino season', to those pondering on what to buy and how to make it all work.
There are lots of little tricks you can use to lace boots, deal with changes of temperatures during your walking day, how to prevent 'hot-spots' developing into blisters, taking space out of a pair of boots without compromising the fit, how best to layer your socks and what fabrics are best for different seasons.
Feel free to fire away
Buen Camino
Greg
Hi everyone....apologies on my disappearance, I have been busy hiking in various countries around the world and have not received alerts to posts on this thread.
I would say that a lot of questions sent my way have already been answered and your Caminos already walked but to answer cclara's question, I've not heard of 'Darn Tough' socks but try and forget the sales pitch and concentrate on what you want these socks to do.
Were you told that you don't need a liner sock by the sales assistant? In my opinion that's irresponsible advice.
The principle behind wearing two pairs is that with a snug fitting coolmax liner sock against your skin taking the moisture away and a second pair of midweight merino socks to provide a second layer to absorb friction and providing cushioning it eliminates the main causes of blisters.
You now own a single layer of thick pair of socks which will no doubt be too hot for the Spanish weather.
Some of you have asked for specific shoes and through trial and error I would walk every spring/summer/autumn camino in men's Merrell's Moab ventilator shoes.
http://www.merrell.com/UK/en-GB/Product.mvc.aspx/15390M/30054/Mens/Moab-Ventilator
Relatively light weight, flexible, non waterproof, super comfortable straight from the box and have the Vibram sole, a hard wearing, grippier rubber, which will last about 1000 miles.
Your question implies the knot comes undone. If that is the case you might try using a locking knot, such as the 'freedom knot' or a runner's knot. See http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/tying.htm for details on different shoelace knots.This is a basic question .. My laces constantly work loose.. Any suggestions?
Hi everyone....apologies on my disappearance, I have been busy hiking in various countries around the world and have not received alerts to posts on this thread.
I would say that a lot of questions sent my way have already been answered and your Caminos already walked but to answer cclara's question, I've not heard of 'Darn Tough' socks but try and forget the sales pitch and concentrate on what you want these socks to do.
Were you told that you don't need a liner sock by the sales assistant? In my opinion that's irresponsible advice.
The principle behind wearing two pairs is that with a snug fitting coolmax liner sock against your skin taking the moisture away and a second pair of midweight merino socks to provide a second layer to absorb friction and providing cushioning it eliminates the main causes of blisters.
You now own a single layer of thick pair of socks which will no doubt be too hot for the Spanish weather.
Hi all,
I'm not quite sure why I havn't thought of this before but better late than never!
I'm a veteran of one Camino Frances in summer, one in winter. A Camino Muxia, a Camino Finistere and finally, imminently a Camino Catalan. When I'm not walking the Camino, I lead hikes in the mountains. When I'm not doing that, I work in an outdoor store in the UK fitting boots and socks all day long.
Having learnt what usually works when it comes to footwear combinations I can offer any advice, in the build up to 'Camino season', to those pondering on what to buy and how to make it all work.
There are lots of little tricks you can use to lace boots, deal with changes of temperatures during your walking day, how to prevent 'hot-spots' developing into blisters, taking space out of a pair of boots without compromising the fit, how best to layer your socks and what fabrics are best for different seasons.
Feel free to fire away
Buen Camino
Greg
Thank you Jim. Still looking .Silvia, women's Moab Ventilators are available here in the US at REI, a major outdoor retail coop -- see http://www.rei.com/product/747732/merrell-moab-ventilator-hiking-shoes-womens . I would be surprised if they are not available in the UK as well.
Brewster Washington! Small world. I was there a couple of months ago for work. Would love to hear how things worked out w the Merrill's. That is what I'm leaning toward as well.I will try out the Merrill, boots or low top trail Merrill? Thanks! Buen Camino to you and maybe our paths will cross!
Small indeed / the world/, I will let you know if I get the Merrells and how they are. But as they say...all very personal,what works for you, might not work for me and so on.but we will get there and walk the Way.Brewster Washington! Small world. I was there a couple of months ago for work. Would love to hear how things worked out w the Merrill's. That is what I'm leaning toward as well.
Thanks for sharing your experience Sakami.I'm a big fan of my Merrell moab ventilators. I wear them hiking as well as for wilderness canoeing. With canoeing I'm often walking knee deep in water and they drain immediately and still offer excellent support even when wet. I usually get two years use out of them before they wear out. Very comfortable boots.
I just bought three pair for my children and myself. It was interesting to note that the local shoe store sold them for $20 a pair less than they were available for on line. I don't know whether that is in order to protect their B&M dealers or what.
Anyway, perfect boot, great ankle support with the mid-height, and very comfy. Because they're mainly fabric rather than leather they don't need an extensive break-in process. More like running shoes or trail shoes.
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