- Time of past OR future Camino
- Frances 23, Primitivo 24, San Salvador 24
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Thank you for making me feel like a hundred years oldYou can buy shampoo bars now, same size as soap bars, and you can probably also use it and as soap. Eco friendly too.
A few more years and a rub with a damp cloth then some wax will do the job just fine for me...Rinsing the dust out of your hair just requires water.
That's what I use (the "honey" soap bar from Lush, which doesn't smell too strongly). I find the other solid universal soaps like castille to be harsh on the skin.You can buy shampoo bars now, same size as soap bars, and you can probably also use it and as soap. Eco friendly too.
I use @JillGat's shampoo and conditioner bars both on the Camino and at home!I have been using a shampoo bar the last 3 caminos and I also just ordered two more from @JillGat here on the forum who makes them.
Stupidly I ordered a thing should be "shampo, body- AND clotheswash"- leaves.. (not saying brand..). Well, tested washing my hair and shower now. Don't have very thick hair, but a lot of it yes.. Well, these "leaves" went into nothing when touching water, so I used - 3 - of them, well, not cleaned my hair at all, had to do it again, whith ordinary shampo.. Why, will there always be a "genious thing" we buy just by it sounds like a perfect solution? Stupid me, will as usual pack an ordinary shampo, and being a bit angry that such marketing forces exist..
Sea to Summit Wilderness Wash... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004YJSM8U?tag=casaivar-21Stupidly I ordered a thing should be "shampo, body- AND clotheswash"- leaves.. (not saying brand..). Well, tested washing my hair and shower now. Don't have very thick hair, but a lot of it yes.. Well, these "leaves" went into nothing when touching water, so I used - 3 - of them, well, not cleaned my hair at all, had to do it again, whith ordinary shampo.. Why, will there always be a "genious thing" we buy just by it sounds like a perfect solution? Stupid me, will as usual pack an ordinary shampo, and being a bit angry that such marketing forces exist..
Yes. I used a shampoo bar that also worked as laundry soap for handwashing clothes. There are many varieties. I used Chagrin Valley Soap and Salve and on their website they give a good education about bar shampoo as well as recommendations for the various choices that work on various hair types.You can buy shampoo bars now, same size as soap bars, and you can probably also use it and as soap. Eco friendly too.
We all have negative self-talk, but it sounds like you’re actually pretty smart for experimenting early. I use a chunk of shampoo bar for the shower and then small squares of laundry detergent sheets for my clothes.Stupidly I ordered a thing should be "shampo, body- AND clotheswash"- leaves.. (not saying brand..). Well, tested washing my hair and shower now. Don't have very thick hair, but a lot of it yes.. Well, these "leaves" went into nothing when touching water, so I used - 3 - of them, well, not cleaned my hair at all, had to do it again, whith ordinary shampo.. Why, will there always be a "genious thing" we buy just by it sounds like a perfect solution? Stupid me, will as usual pack an ordinary shampo, and being a bit angry that such marketing forces exist..
I store mine in a tin purchased where I get my bars. After showering I take the bar and tin to my bunk, set the bar on its side inside the tin to air dry. When relaxing on my bed the smell from the bar lingers. It’s quite nice. Oh and before Camino I’ll cut a piece of parchment to place at the bottom inside the tin. Helps prevent the bar from sticking if still damp.What does everyone store their shampoo bars or soap in so that it doesn't become a soggy mess? Or do you leave it out somewhere to dry before packing it away again?
I do the same. I have been using Breezeo laundry detergent strips on Camino for several years. I cut the strips in half. They get my clothes clean without making a lot of suds that I have to rinse out.use a chunk of shampoo bar for the shower and then small squares of laundry detergent sheets for my clothes.
I use the Matador flatpack soap bar case- it really does work! I keep a small piece of shampoo bar, conditioner, and body soap in it. They last a long time. You can buy it from Matador or REI.What does everyone store their shampoo bars or soap in so that it doesn't become a soggy mess? Or do you leave it out somewhere to dry before packing it away again?
SameI just use a ziplock sandwich bag. It's not usually soggy after my shower.
I also use a small ziplock bag, but I wrap my shampoo bar in a small piece of microfiber cloth first.I just use a ziplock sandwich bag. It's not usually soggy after my shower.
And if not, you can buy it in almost all villages of Spain. Why waste space/weight bringing it from another country?You’ll find lost or abandoned shampoos in most Albergue shower rooms. Carrying your own personal stash is almost pointless in that you will, at some point, leave it behind.
I used this and it worked like a charm.What does everyone store their shampoo bars or soap in so that it doesn't become a soggy mess? Or do you leave it out somewhere to dry before packing it away again?
I have some old Gortex jackets in a drawer, awaiting some use. (We are typical old people with a houseful of items we can't bring ourselves to throw away because they might - just might - be useful some day.I used this and it worked like a charm.
Lol. I’m one of those old people too but had no gortexI have some old Gortex jackets in a drawer, awaiting some use. (We are typical old people with a houseful of items we can't bring ourselves to throw away because they might - just might - be useful some day.
I think I will make a little waterproof breathable case for my half-bar of shampoo soap! AT US$28 each, I might consider taking orders!
See?! You should have kept that old jacket from 1980.I’m one of those old people too but had no gortex
I do that too, but it requires a bit of attention so as to avoid dripping on the bed, or leaving it behind, and also means that I have to avoid using soap in the morning! The net gives a nice scrubbing effect, so I'll keep that but add the removable Gortex case around it. Very complex engineering involved in the design - enough to keep me busy all year, so the price may go up. First I need to finish making the silk tubular scarf that will also serve as a pillow case.I keep them in a small net bag - hung over the bunk rails.
The small draw-string cloth bags that come FREE with each pack of reusable soap nuts (natural alternative to noxious washing powder) make ideal containers for soggy soap bars.I think I will make a little waterproof breathable case for my half-bar of shampoo soap! AT US$28 each, I might consider taking orders!
Yes - I had to be very careful each morning to pack the nylon net bag. I never used the net bag in the shower - just as a holder/drying bag.See?! You should have kept that old jacket from 1980.
I do that too, but it requires a bit of attention so as to avoid dripping on the bed, or leaving it behind, and also means that I have to avoid using soap in the morning! The net gives a nice scrubbing effect, so I'll keep that but add the removable Gortex case around it. Very complex engineering involved in the design - enough to keep me busy all year, so the price may go up. First I need to finish making the silk tubular scarf that will also serve as a pillow case.
REI carries them. I use one for body soap & shampoo bar and another for laundry bar.I used this and it worked like a charm.
FlatPak™ Soap Bar Case – Matador
The FlatPak™ Soap Bar Case is the lightweight and leakproof way to travel with bar soap. Soap bars dry through the material, so they never get mushy.www.matadorequipment.com
Bought mine at sports store here in Canada and available on amazon.
Same here… I have just past shoulder length, thick, curly hair, nothing but my way too expensive shampoo and conditioner will do. It’s a pain, but better than ending up with a head full of something resembling fairy floss!I must be precious. I buy a travel size shampoo and conditioner otherwise my hair would be a big knot. I do only shampoo once and then conditioner.
I wash my hair every day on the camino as it gets knotty. I don't bring a dress that's my excuse. I also take nivea
I do the same but always take a small chunk of Mexican laundry bar (Zote) to hand wash socks!!I take half a shampoo bar and use it to wash everything.
I keep mine in the packing it comes in. Then store it in a zip lock with the rest of my washing stuff.What does everyone store their shampoo bars or soap in so that it doesn't become a soggy mess? Or do you leave it out somewhere to dry before packing it away again?
Me too what do you take? For my first Camino I had very very short hair but shoulder length now and very curly. Debating what to take.Same here… I have just past shoulder length, thick, curly hair, nothing but my way too expensive shampoo and conditioner will do. It’s a pain, but better than ending up with a head full of something resembling fairy floss!
Whatever you decide on, try it out at home. I have long (well past my shoulders), thick, wavy hair and I use shampoo and conditioner bars from @JillGat. I use the shampoo bar to wash my body too. I don't shampoo my hair every day on the Camino - I usually just rinse it and run the conditioner bar through it.Me too what do you take? For my first Camino I had very very short hair but shoulder length now and very curly. Debating what to take.
I use a ultralight 12 liter Osprey dry bag (weighs 1.2 oz/34 gm) as my portable washing machine.
I put my clothes in it as I'm getting into the shower with water from the shower as it's warming up. Then I add half of a laundry detergent sheet (some brands are Breezeo and Tru Earth)
Then I seal it up and give it a few shakes. I set it aside for everything to soak while I shower and dress.
Then I shake it a bit more to agitate the clothes in the bag before dumping it out in the laundry sink and rinsing. If I'm in a private room with my own bathroom I use the tub or shower. The detergent sheets don't make a lot of suds, but get the clothes clean and it's easy to rinse out.
It's a good idea to rinse out your socks before putting them in the bag as they can be really dirty.
After wringing the clothes out as best I can I wrap them in my towel and twist it to get out more water before hanging them to dry.
Because of the long soaking time method gets my clothes cleaner with less effort than when I used just the laundry sinks or tubs.
Thanks Trecile, yes I don't shampoo every day but use conditioner. Would love to try @JillGat but in Oz. I did read about your clothes washing idea some time ago and have a dry bag I'm taking this time. Will see how it goes. Thanks for you ideas.Whatever you decide on, try it out at home. I have long (well past my shoulders), thick, wavy hair and I use shampoo and conditioner bars from @JillGat. I use the shampoo bar to wash my body too. I don't shampoo my hair every day on the Camino - I usually just rinse it and run the conditioner bar through it.
I could use the shampoo bar to wash my clothes too, but I use this method:
I use these from Matador & really like them. No mess and soap dries while inside. Very light-weight. A tad pricey.What does everyone store their shampoo bars or soap in so that it doesn't become a soggy mess? Or do you leave it out somewhere to dry before packing it away again?
:::: chuckle:::: Oddly enough, the sample size shampoo and laundry bars were noticeably lighter than even the 3 Oz travel shampoo. That got left behind after day 1.
Furiously googling "reusable soap nuts"...The small draw-string cloth bags that come FREE with each pack of reusable soap nuts (natural alternative to noxious washing powder) make ideal containers for soggy soap bars.
The soap he did the original test on (Dove) is a really soft soap. I use that brand of at home because it is very dry here in Wyoming and it does not dry my skin out as much as deoderant soaps and/or other harder soaps. On the Camino I use a harder shampoo bar. I just lather it up in my hands and use on my hair and body. I usually don't set my soap in the water like he did for 20 minutes. I am a 3-minute, Army-shower kind of gal. I don't set my soap in the water stream, but to one side of it. Anyway, my plastic ziplock bag works well for me and if it gets too yucky or I forget it somewhere, I can replace it more easily than waiting for an Amazon delivery somewhere on the Camino. I'm sure the Matador bag works well for others, but I don't think I will be getting one.I was almost sold on the Matador soap container until I watched this video:
I will stick with wrapping my shampoo and conditioner bars in a small piece of microfiber fabric and putting them into ziplock baggies.
Whatever you decide on, try it out at home. I have long (well past my shoulders), thick, wavy hair and I use shampoo and conditioner bars from @JillGat. I use the shampoo bar to wash my body too. I don't shampoo my hair every day on the Camino - I usually just rinse it and run the conditioner bar through it.
I could use the shampoo bar to wash my clothes too, but I use this method:
It dries really fast - faster than my clothes usually. After it's dry on one side I turn it inside out to dry.For your dry-bag-laundry method, how long does it take the dry bag to dry out enough to use it to hold other things when you're back on the walk? (That is, are you able to use it as a dry bag the next day to protect clothes?)
Matador flat pack - awesome!What does everyone store their shampoo bars or soap in so that it doesn't become a soggy mess? Or do you leave it out somewhere to dry before packing it away again?
I use soap mesh bag. Brought a small hook to hang my stuffs in shower cubicle, use the same to dry my soap whn I put my laundry out to dry. Store in ziplock bag. Voila.What does everyone store their shampoo bars or soap in so that it doesn't become a soggy mess? Or do you leave it out somewhere to dry before packing it away again?
Well, as much as I feel like I'm deliberating, I'm not really...it will have to be my good shampoo, conditioner and leave in moisturiser to tame the 'beast'. I'll take the little 100ml travel bottles again this April, however, I will have to take two of the conditioner as one was not enough last time. Just made it with the shampoo, skimped on the conditioner and leave-in last time. This also meant only washing my hair every three or four days which is not ideal when it's hot, however, as you would know it's also hard to get thick, curly hair to dry quickly in the afternoon and cooler night hours without a hairdryer. Helps to put hair up and under a hat to help with keeping clean. I realise to others it sounds a bit precious, but, it's not negotiable for me.Me too what do you take? For my first Camino I had very very short hair but shoulder length now and very curly. Debating what to take.
Last autumn i had short spiky hair, didn't bring a comb. Didn't comb my hair for almost 2 monthsSame here… I have just past shoulder length, thick, curly hair, nothing but my way too expensive shampoo and conditioner will do. It’s a pain, but better than ending up with a head full of something resembling fairy floss!
I've used these on a recent 4-day hike on the New Zealand Kepler Track and they were perfect. No wet, gunky soap and the little dry-bags are lightweight and easy to use. Water vapour from the soap evaporates but water droplets can't leak out.What does everyone store their shampoo bars or soap in so that it doesn't become a soggy mess? Or do you leave it out somewhere to dry before packing it away again?
I used the Matador bag on a recent 4-day hike and it works FAR better than a zip lock bag. The soap I used was a small piece of Syrian Tade soap (in one bag), and a small piece of a hair shampoo bar plus a small piece of hair conditioner bar in another. My soap dried out in the bags and wasn't gunky at all. I only took small pieces so had no problem rolling the Matador bag the suggested 3 rolls. My small pieces of soap last a LONG time, so the small size of the Matador bags wasn't a problem for me, but if you take a huge bar of soap it might not work for you.The soap he did the original test on (Dove) is a really soft soap. I use that brand of at home because it is very dry here in Wyoming and it does not dry my skin out as much as deoderant soaps and/or other harder soaps. On the Camino I use a harder shampoo bar. I just lather it up in my hands and use on my hair and body. I usually don't set my soap in the water like he did for 20 minutes. I am a 3-minute, Army-shower kind of gal. I don't set my soap in the water stream, but to one side of it. Anyway, my plastic ziplock bag works well for me and if it gets too yucky or I forget it somewhere, I can replace it more easily than waiting for an Amazon delivery somewhere on the Camino. I'm sure the Matador bag works well for others, but I don't think I will be getting one.
But you tried the "leaves"? I highly recommend shampoo and conditioner bars.Thank you for making me feel like a hundred years oldbut no thank you, such modern things are not for me, my old bottle of shampoo is the only way
That looks really good. I was about to get it but the cost to ship to Canada more than doubled the price! For something so lightweight, it sure is expensive to ship.I've used these on a recent 4-day hike on the New Zealand Kepler Track and they were perfect. No wet, gunky soap and the little dry-bags are lightweight and easy to use. Water vapour from the soap evaporates but water droplets can't leak out.
FlatPak™ Soap Bar Case – Matador
The FlatPak™ Soap Bar Case is the lightweight and leakproof way to travel with bar soap. Soap bars dry through the material, so they never get mushy.www.matadorequipment.com
You can get a Matador Flatpak Soap Bar Case from Amazon Canada for $24 CAD. (The USD price from the Matador site is $14 USD, which is $19 CAD, so you pay $5 CAD extra to Amazon for the convenience).That looks really good. I was about to get it but the cost to ship to Canada more than doubled the price! For something so lightweight, it sure is expensive to ship.
That's a lot better than the $32+ USD I was being quoted by the Matador site!You can get a Matador Flatpak Soap Bar Case from Amazon Canada for $24 CAD. (The USD price from the Matador site is $14 USD, which is $19 CAD, so you pay $5 CAD extra to Amazon for the convenience).
Yep, plus if you get something else you need/want from Amazon for another... $11.01 or more, then you get free shipping to most parts of Canada.That's a lot better than the $32+ USD I was being quoted by the Matador site!
I use Dawn dishwashing soap for shampoo/laundry/shower.
I'm glad it works for you, but for most people, using dish soap on their skin and especially on their hair would cause a lot of damage. Dawn is designed to remove grease and oil and the pH is about 8.7 to 9.3. Human hair does best with products that are pH 4.5 to 6 at the highest.I use Dawn dishwashing soap for shampoo/laundry/shower.
I can attest to the quality of Jill's shampoo and conditioner bars. They are what I use at home and on the Camino. She's on Etsy.@JillGat, do you have a website to view your products? Possibly I would be interested in them for home use.
Well if it's good enough for a sandwich it should be good enough for soap, lol. After much deliberation last year and not knowing about the Matador Flat Pack I finally decided on the ziplock sandwich bag which worked fine. I had the Dr. Bronner all in one bar. Sandwich bag again this year but with a shampoo bar and the micro fibre that Trecile mentioned. I stay in a private room once in a while so won't be using my soap everyday.I'm sticking with my Ziplock sandwich bag...
www.etsy.com/shop/LaRiojaNaturalSoap@JillGat, do you have a website to view your products? Possibly I would be interested in them for home use.
Me either... just used my fingers to comb it through when conditioning and just piled it up into a bun or pony every... didn't miss a comb.Last autumn i had short spiky hair, didn't bring a comb. Didn't comb my hair for almost 2 months
I've used it for decades but I do have oily skin and hair.I'm glad it works for you, but for most people, using dish soap on their skin and especially on their hair would cause a lot of damage. Dawn is designed to remove grease and oil
Jill, I looked at your website today, but have no idea on which shampoo and condition to choose and am in a quandary. It would be for home use. Is there a particular favorite fragrance that people order more often?
Nope, totally up to you.Jill, I looked at your website today, but have no idea on which shampoo and condition to choose and am in a quandary. It would be for home use. Is there a particular favorite fragrance that people order more often?
Yes, shipping prices are getting ridiculous, but I actually found a supplier in Australia and bundled them with some other items I needed, so shipping to NZ this time was reasonable.That looks really good. I was about to get it but the cost to ship to Canada more than doubled the price! For something so lightweight, it sure is expensive to ship.
Even shipping within the US is ridiculously expensive. I sent a small box to an address in my own town and it cost $8 US. The box I sent to Canada cost around $24, I believe.Yes, shipping prices are getting ridiculous, but I actually found a supplier in Australia and bundled them with some other items I needed, so shipping to NZ this time was reasonable.
I like Citrus, myself.Jill, I looked at your website today, but have no idea on which shampoo and condition to choose and am in a quandary. It would be for home use. Is there a particular favorite fragrance that people order more often?
And I throw in some freebies for Camino walkers! So be sure to identify yourself if you buy anything from my site.
Ok, but first I have to look the website over and then decide what fragrance I prefer. I don't have paypal, but assume a credit card works ok and is secure. I would not be placing an order until March as I am out of town now. Thanks!And I throw in some freebies for Camino walkers! So be sure to identify yourself if you buy anything from my site.
Wow, that's expensive!I am on a list to get all these items people are trying to launch. All kinds of gadgets from electric scooters to quick dry towels. I bought a wool dress from one startup and now I am on their "regular's" list, I guess. Anyway, Today, this washing bag showed up. Sounds a lot like the "Next Gen" version of @trecile 's drybag washing method.Waschii -PocketSized SolarHeated Waschiing Machine
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Tell me - or point me to a link - about this dry bag system?Wow, that's expensive!
I got the idea of using a lightweight dry bag after I learned about the Scrubba, which weighs quite a bit more, and is expensive. There are quite a few videos on YouTube showing how to launder in a dry bag, or even a large Zip lock bag.
I've posted it before:Tell me - or point me to a link - about this dry bag system?
Here's my method:
I use a ultralight 12 liter Osprey dry bag (weighs 1.2 oz/34 gm) as my portable washing machine.
I put my clothes in it as I'm getting into the shower with water from the shower as it's warming up. Then I add half of a laundry detergent sheet (some brands are Breezeo and Tru Earth)
Then I seal it up and give it a few shakes. I set it aside for everything to soak while I shower and dress.
Then I shake it a bit more to agitate the clothes in the bag before dumping it out in the laundry sink and rinsing. If I'm in a private room with my own bathroom I use the tub or shower. The detergent sheets don't make a lot of suds, but get the clothes clean and it's easy to rinse out.
It's a good idea to rinse out your socks before putting them in the bag as they can be really dirty.
After wringing the clothes out as best I can I wrap them in my towel and twist it to get out more water before hanging them to dry.
Because of the long soaking time method gets my clothes cleaner with less effort than when I used just the laundry sinks or tubs.
I have tried so many shampoo bars and have now given up - none of them work well on my hair. So I will be taking a travel size bottle of shampoo which I will replenish from abandoned shampoo bottles in the hostels! Then a good old bar of soap for all my other washing needsStupidly I ordered a thing should be "shampo, body- AND clotheswash"- leaves.. (not saying brand..). Well, tested washing my hair and shower now. Don't have very thick hair, but a lot of it yes.. Well, these "leaves" went into nothing when touching water, so I used - 3 - of them, well, not cleaned my hair at all, had to do it again, whith ordinary shampo.. Why, will there always be a "genious thing" we buy just by it sounds like a perfect solution? Stupid me, will as usual pack an ordinary shampo, and being a bit angry that such marketing forces exist..
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