Spain visa itinerary ???

[melooon]

Hi!
Would anyone be able to share what their visa itinerary for a Spain visa application looked like? I'm filling it out right now and I'm having trouble figuring out the formatting of it all. I'll be doing the camino de santiago frances and i'll be on the trail for 38 days and i'm not sure if I should book all my hostels in advance and put them in the itinerary or is that not required by the visa office? I've been trying to contact the embassies and consulates in Canada but they haven't been very helpful. I would appreciate any info on this.

 

[Vacajoe]

What country’s passport will you be traveling under?

 

[melooon]

Canadian travel document

 

[Peterexpatkiwi]

@melooon, welcome to the forum.
Canadian citizens do not need a visa for travel to countries within the Schengen area, unless you intend to stay more than 90 days.
Therefore you do not need a visa - unless of course you intend to travel more within the Schengen Zone and the camino is just part of that.

Edited to add: or by "Canadian travel document" do you mean the blue Canadian travel document that you get as a permanent resident?

 

[melooon]

@melooon, welcome to the forum.
Canadian citizens do not need a visa for travel to countries within the Schengen area, unless you intend to stay more than 90 days.
Therefore you do not need a visa - unless of course you intend to travel more within the Schengen Zone and the camino is just part of that.

Hi Peter
I’m not a Canadian citizen but I have a Canadian travel document and I definitely need a visa to travel to Spain so I’m just wondering what that visas itinerary process looked like for other people.

 

[Kathor1]

@melooon, not a direct answer to your question but helpful I hope. Forum members from South Africa must have a visa for Camino trips of the kind that you plan. They often get a letter from the South African Camino association (Confraternity of Saint James of South Africa) and attach it to their visa application. Canada has a similar association - perhaps they offer this service also to their members and can even provide specific information about how to present itinerary and accommodation.

PS: I do understand that you do not have a Canadian passport and that Spain requires a visa for the kind of travel document issued by Canada that you will use for your trip.

 

[melooon]

@melooon, welcome to the forum.
Canadian citizens do not need a visa for travel to countries within the Schengen area, unless you intend to stay more than 90 days.
Therefore you do not need a visa - unless of course you intend to travel more within the Schengen Zone and the camino is just part of that.

Edited to add: or by "Canadian travel document" do you mean the blue Canadian travel document that you get as a permanent resident?

Yes that one

 

[melooon]

@melooon, not a direct answer to your question but helpful I hope. Forum members from South Africa must have a visa for Camino trips of the kind that you plan. They often get a letter from the South African Camino association (Confraternity of Saint James of South Africa) and attach it to their visa application. Canada has a similar association - perhaps they offer this service also to their members and can even provide specific information about how to present itinerary and accommodation.

PS: I do understand that you do not have a Canadian passport and that Spain requires a visa for the kind of travel document issued by Canada that you will use for your trip.

Thank youu

 

[Peterexpatkiwi]

Hi Peter
I’m not a Canadian citizen but I have a Canadian travel document and I definitely need a visa to travel to Spain so I’m just wondering what that visas itinerary process looked like for other people.

Sorry, missed this: you posted at the same time as I was editing my original post.
I have no personal experience, but variants on this question have come up before.

I presume you're referring to this:
(The italics are mine)

For tourism, please submit confirmed hotel reservations, stating name, address and telephone number of the hotel, including confirmation number and/or proof of group travel participation,etc

Source:

https://www.exteriores.gob.es/Embajadas/ottawa/en/ServiciosConsulares/Paginas/Consular/Visados-Schengen.aspx

If you don't receive any other useful responses and want to follow the suggestion from @Kathor1 above you could contact:

Canadian Company of Pilgrims
P.O. Box 36025, Victoria,
BC V9A 7J5

Alternatively, you could do what others have suggested in the past in similar situations, which is to book everything after Pamplona via booking.com. Ensure you have free cancellation. It's quick and easy to print that booking.com list out for the visa process.

Then once you get to Pamplona cancel the rest of those reservations if desired. (As you probably know it's generally a good idea to reserve those first few days from SJPDP to Pamplona) . Just use the standard stages from whichever guidebook or website you utilised to decide on your 38-day time frame.

Buen Camino

 

[MinaKamina]

Sorry, missed this: you posted at the same time as I was editing my original post.
I have no personal experience, but variants on this question have come up before.

I presume you're referring to this:
(The italics are mine)

For tourism, please submit confirmed hotel reservations, stating name, address and telephone number of the hotel, including confirmation number and/or proof of group travel participation,etc

Source:

https://www.exteriores.gob.es/Embajadas/ottawa/en/ServiciosConsulares/Paginas/Consular/Visados-Schengen.aspx

If you don't receive any other useful responses and want to follow the suggestion from @Kathor1 above you could contact:

Canadian Company of Pilgrims
P.O. Box 36025, Victoria,
BC V9A 7J5

Alternatively, you could do what others have suggested in the past in similar situations, which is to book everything after Pamplona via booking.com. Ensure you have free cancellation. It's quick and easy to print that booking.com list out for the visa process.

Then once you get to Pamplona cancel the rest of those reservations if desired. (As you probably know it's generally a good idea to reserve those first few days from SJPDP to Pamplona) . Just use the standard stages from whichever guidebook or website you utilised to decide on your 38-day time frame.

Buen Camino

St Jean PdP is in France.
If @melooon needs a specific visa for Spain, wouldn't the same apply for a stay in France in that case? Does Schengen apply or not?
If the visa is for Spain alone and it is not a Schengen visa, it is not valid for France.

How will you travel from Canada to the CF, @melooon ? Via Paris or Madrid?

 

[Kathor1]

Shouldn’t we just trust @melooon that he knows that he needs to apply for a visa and at the appropriate consulate or embassy in Canada?

He does not have (or cannot use) a passport for nationals of any of the countries that are listed under the Schengen visa waiver program.

He has a travel document that entitles him to travel from Canada to Schengen countries and to other EU countries. He wants to know how others have explained itinerary and accommodation in their visa application when travelling to go on Camino in either France or Spain or both.

 

[EWhite]

Sorry, missed this: you posted at the same time as I was editing my original post.
I have no personal experience, but variants on this question have come up before.

I presume you're referring to this:
(The italics are mine)

For tourism, please submit confirmed hotel reservations, stating name, address and telephone number of the hotel, including confirmation number and/or proof of group travel participation,etc

Source:

https://www.exteriores.gob.es/Embajadas/ottawa/en/ServiciosConsulares/Paginas/Consular/Visados-Schengen.aspx

If you don't receive any other useful responses and want to follow the suggestion from @Kathor1 above you could contact:

Canadian Company of Pilgrims
P.O. Box 36025, Victoria,
BC V9A 7J5

Alternatively, you could do what others have suggested in the past in similar situations, which is to book everything after Pamplona via booking.com. Ensure you have free cancellation. It's quick and easy to print that booking.com list out for the visa process.

Then once you get to Pamplona cancel the rest of those reservations if desired. (As you probably know it's generally a good idea to reserve those first few days from SJPDP to Pamplona) . Just use the standard stages from whichever guidebook or website you utilised to decide on your 38-day time frame.

Buen Camino

The Canadian Company of Pilgrims has a “contact us” inquiry form on their website.

Contact | Canadian Company of Pilgrims

www.santiago.ca

Canada post workers have been on strike for a month….

 

[Peterexpatkiwi]

Shouldn’t we just trust @melooon that he knows that he needs to apply for a visa and at the appropriate consulate or embassy in Canada?

He does not have (or cannot use) a passport for nationals of any of the countries that are listed under the Schengen visa waiver program.

He has a travel document that entitles him to travel from Canada to Schengen countries and to other EU countries. He wants to know how others have explained itinerary and accommodation in their visa application when travelling to go on Camino in either France or Spain or both.

Fair comment were it not for the fact that people often ask about the visa requirements even when they are traveling from countries that don't need them. There's an open thread on this at present, created in this case by someone completely misunderstanding the new Etias rules that will eventually come into force. In that thread, the OP is given the erroneous advice that it is better to have a visa than not.

Straight after posting I added my edit questioning the type of document, because I noticed that the Ops response to "what countries passport will you be traveling under" were the words 'travel document' rather than 'passport'. Which completely changes things.

St Jean PdP is in France.
If @melooon needs a specific visa for Spain, wouldn't the same apply for a stay in France in that case? Does Schengen apply or not?
If the visa is for Spain alone and it is not a Schengen visa, it is not valid for France.

How will you travel from Canada to the CF, @melooon ? Via Paris or Madrid?

I Quote "According to the Schengen rules, the Schengen visa is generally valid for all the countries in the Schengen area. Please note, however, that you always have to apply at the consulate of the country which is your primary destination"

Italics are mine

Sorry @melooon, I should have left this one for somebody like @David Tallan to answer, rather than starting all of this unnecessary controversy.

 

[ScouseKeith]

Hi!
Would anyone be able to share what their visa itinerary for a Spain visa application looked like? I'm filling it out right now and I'm having trouble figuring out the formatting of it all. I'll be doing the camino de santiago frances and i'll be on the trail for 38 days and i'm not sure if I should book all my hostels in advance and put them in the itinerary or is that not required by the visa office? I've been trying to contact the embassies and consulates in Canada but they haven't been very helpful. I would appreciate any info on this.

Last year I was told to just enter my first destination in SJPP in the form and I didn’t have any problems.

 

[trecile]

Last year I was told to just enter my first destination in SJPP in the form and I didn’t have any problems.

Which form do you mean? Since @melooon does not have a passport from a country that allows them to travel to Spain without a visa they need to apply for a Schengen visa which requires confirmed reservations for their entire trip.

 

[oursonpolaire]

Get in touch with the Canadian Company of Pilgrims which has in the past provided letters of support for their members in a similar situation (e.g. South African citizens resident in Canada). There are two consulates in Canada, Toronto for Ontario to the Pacific, and Montréal for the rest of the country-- the Embassy in Ottawa handles consular work for the National Capital Region. As you are discovering, travel documents provide extra challenges for the traveller.

I am not certain, but the CCoP likely has arrangements to provide documentation outside the current postal lockout.

 

[JerryStroebele]

For tourism, please submit confirmed hotel reservations, stating name, address and telephone number of the hotel, including confirmation number and/or proof of group travel participation,etc

Source:

https://www.exteriores.gob.es/Embaj...ulares/Paginas/Consular/Visados-Schengen.aspx

In October we were accompanied for 10 days by a citizen of India. In order to get her visa she had to show all accommodations pre booked for each day, IN HER NAME. It was a hassle, as we had to change all of the pre-bookings for those days. But we had a delightful Camino. Buen Camino

 

[Ella L.]

Hi!
Would anyone be able to share what their visa itinerary for a Spain visa application looked like? I'm filling it out right now and I'm having trouble figuring out the formatting of it all. I'll be doing the camino de santiago frances and i'll be on the trail for 38 days and i'm not sure if I should book all my hostels in advance and put them in the itinerary or is that not required by the visa office? I've been trying to contact the embassies and consulates in Canada but they haven't been very helpful. I would appreciate any info on this.

I would assume you are travelling from Canada under a Canadian passport. If that is the case, then a visa is not necessary. From what I understand, the new regulations will require the equivalent of a 'landing pass' which you will fill out on arrival, giving information that is in your passport, as well as contact info (e-mail/phone) and where you intend to spend the first night in Spain. After that you will be traceable through your passport, which most albergues and hotels etc require anyway. I don't think you would be required to give a detailed itinerary, given that that can change (unless you are doing a guided package tour). Now, I could be entirely wrong and I would appreciate feed-back from others to correct me. But I too am from Canada and have made this journey at least ten times, the latest this year, and I intend to be back next Spring!

 

[trecile]

I would assume you are travelling from Canada under a Canadian passport. If that is the case, then a visa is not necessary.

That's not the case. As @melooon stated they are not a Canadian citizen and they do need a visa to travel to Spain.

I’m not a Canadian citizen but I have a Canadian travel document and I definitely need a visa to travel to Spain

 

[C clearly]

Now, I could be entirely wrong and I would appreciate feed-back from others to correct me.

It is important for people to understand that there are some very important facts that make all the difference in the world to an individual's situation when entering various countries.

I would assume you are travelling from Canada under a Canadian passport.

The OP has explained that they do not have a Canadian passport. They have another type of "Canadian travel document" also discussed in the thread.

From what I understand, the new regulations will require the equivalent of a 'landing pass' which you will fill out on arrival

No, the new ETIAS system will, when it is implemented sometime in the vague future, require advance registration online.

 

[SarahCheng]

Hello, you are applying for a Schengen visa for Spain. Though not the same, I recently successfully navigated the application process for a France Schengen visa for a non-Canadian but not for an itinerary for the Camino. Many things were unclear from the official website. So all the accommodation was booked in advance and included in the itinerary, choosing those with free cancellation in case the visa application was not successful. On the Camino, as a matter of courtesy to the small hostels, you might ask the owners if this is all right with them.

If you would like to see the format of the itinerary used, you can DM me.

 

[WGroleau]

I Quote "According to the Schengen rules, the Schengen visa is generally valid for all the countries in the Schengen area. Please note, however, that you always have to apply at the consulate of the country which is your primary destination"

To avoid confusion, "primary destination" means the country you'll spend the most time in, not the first one you arrive in.