Search 74,075 Camino Questions

Valcarlos to Pic de Leizar Atheka?

Seabeggar

New Member
Time of past OR future Camino
Mozarabe
First night Valcarlos next week (no accommodation on Napoleon) Wondering about walking up to join Napoleon route near Cruceiro/Pic de Leizar then onto Roncesvalles, if it looks like a fine day. Appreciate it's another 400m of climbing. Looks like there are some tracks +/- D-128 that go up the mountain from Valcarlos. For those who have walked both routes is it worth it?
 
Perfect memento/gift in a presentation box. Engraving available, 25 character max.
I have walked the Napoleon twice and the Valcarlos route three times. The Napoleon is more scenic in my opinion but not enough of a difference to make your diversion worthwhile. If you are walking all the way to Santiago there will be other equally scenic sections around the Cruz de Ferro and O Cebreiro. The Valcarlos route has its own interesting aspects and will be much quieter too.
 
I did it once. I slept in Valcarlos and in the morning I went up the D128 (in fact, there is also a white-and-yellow marked path that avoids the road, but I found it difficult to follow the markers). The D128 is actually a very similar type of road to D428, the one taken by all the pilgrims on the Napoleon route, except that it is longer, because instead of being mostly straight as D428 it has several "switchbacks", which I didn't mind because as the result, the gradient is gentler. You join the Napoleon Route a bit before the Food Truck.

You might be wondering why anyone would sleep in Valcarlos and then go all the way up towards Thibault Cross from the other side. Why not just follow the original path through the valley from Valcarlos to Puerto de Ibañeta and then down to Roncesvalles? Well, I guess the only answer is: for the views, which are spectacular on the Napoleon Route. Similarly, you might say, why would people do the Hospitales Route on Primitivo, instead of staying in the valley until Pola de Allande and climbing up to Puerto del Palo as late as they can? They probably do it mostly for the same reason, the views on the Hospitales route. Nowadays there are very few "dangers" lurking in the valleys for pilgrims. From a logical point of view, climbing the Lepoeder Pass at 1450 m makes no sense at all, if you can walk through the valley and only ascend to about 1000 m. But people still do it.

As an added bonus, during the whole arduous climb on the D128, you will have the whole Pyrenees to yourself! Nobody is puffing and huffing behind you, as is always the case on the Napoleon Route in the early morning.
 
€2,-/day will present your project to thousands of visitors each day. All interested in the Camino de Santiago.
First night Valcarlos next week (no accommodation on Napoleon) Wondering about walking up to join Napoleon route near Cruceiro/Pic de Leizar then onto Roncesvalles, if it looks like a fine day. Appreciate it's another 400m of climbing. Looks like there are some tracks +/- D-128 that go up the mountain from Valcarlos. For those who have walked both routes is it worth it?
No point in doing that. But if you don't know the area inside out, it's possible that you'll get ahead of yourself.
 
The first edition came out in 2003 and has become the go-to-guide for many pilgrims over the years. It is shipping with a Pilgrim Passport (Credential) from the cathedral in Santiago de Compostela.

❓How to ask a question

How to post a new question on the Camino Forum.

Most read last week in this forum

My husband and I are walking the Camino next June. We are currently booked into guest houses/hostels from Sarria to Santiago. I feel if we miss doing the meseta, I think we will regret it. That...
I never tire of doing the Camino Francés (five times and counting!), but the overcrowding in the summer months has made the Brierley stages from Sarria a no-go for me. That's why today I'm...
I have not had time to read this yet, but my spy on the ground tells me it outlines what it says on the tin, including a comment on the issue of how to improve the descent around Zubiri. I have no...
Back in 2018, I found an interactive Excel spreadsheet in the resource section for the Camino Frances that listed every town on the route and allowed you to pick your stopping point for each day...
I'm a total newbie and could use some help finding this little site so I can take a pic for a friend. It's near Burgos. I've found "Approaching Hontanas (Province of Burgos, Castilla y León)...
Suzanne and I may be back at it in the Spring. The hardest part right now is getting our heads around committing to 5-6 weeks of being away. Assuming we get there...we've always wanted to walk...

Featured threads

❓How to ask a question

How to post a new question on the Camino Forum.

Featured threads

Forum Rules

Forum Rules

Camino Updates on YouTube

Camino Conversations

Most downloaded Resources

This site is run by Ivar at

in Santiago de Compostela.
This site participates in the Amazon Affiliate program, designed to provide a means for Ivar to earn fees by linking to Amazon
Official Camino Passport (Credential) | 2024 Camino Guides
Back
Back
Top