How Important Was It To You To Do "Full" CF ?

[KFH]

How important was it to you to do what might be called the "full" CF from SJPP to Santiago in one go?

I know a lot of people split it up into stages for various reasons (health, time, money), while some prefer the one long journey, and perhaps some people would only do the whole thing in one go.

(the background to this question is that due to a discussion with my buddy about CF, I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary. For instance, I would easily agree to split up Le Puy to SJPP if needed.

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

What was your experience? Either doing it in stages or in one long go, were you happy with your decision? Would you do it differently?

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

 

[trecile]

I wanted to walk all the way across a country, from the French border to the Atlantic ocean.

As I'm sure you know since you put full in quotes, there is no official beginning of the Camino Francés. Any route that ends in Santiago is a full Camino.

 

[trecile]

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

If your friend can only do it in sections is there anything stopping you from continuing on your own to Santiago?

 

[Mountain Mermaid]

I am glad I started in SJPP for my first pilgrimage as I feel I was able to experience about every possible emotion and physical challenge and have the time to recover and think about those challenges. However, if I had not quit my job to train for the CF and then to recover afterwards, I'm not sure I would be having such warm and fuzzy feelings. I definitely needed those three months of training to complete the CF successfully, and I needed about six weeks to fully recover physically and mentally (it's only been five weeks since I finished so I am hoping I'll be fully recovered next week!). I really felt for the people I saw racing through the full CF in order to meet a deadline of airline tickets or getting back to work because they always seemed rushed and, towards the end of the CF, were leaving the hostel at 5 AM for long walks in the dark in order to meet those deadlines. In summary, I'm glad I did the full CF with the luxury of training and time to complete. If I had a tight deadline, I would have done it in stages rather than rush.

 

[Former member 59618]

For me, walking the full CF in one go allowed me to feel the full affects of the journey, as opposed to chunks. It was pretty profound to go from wheezing my way over the Pyrenees to blazing into Santiago, stronger, clearer and triumphant. There was something about going through Galicia that was almost mystical (I've experienced this both times). Walking from Santiago to the Atlantic Ocean was downright floaty and magical.

 

[Harland2019]

On all routes that I walk I am a start-to-finish (end-to-end) guy. The only one I have split up is Lands End to John O'Groats and that was because I had walked parts of it completing other of the UK's National Trails so I completed it by walking the bits in between however I still apologise for walking it in bits i.e. I haven't really walked it!
Whilst I am not religious I wonder if the goal of getting to Santiago would perhaps be diminished if you have to go back to finish it later. However, I do understand that not everyone can find the time or a partner willing for them to be away for so long!

 

[SabsP]

There is no such thing as a full Camino Frances.
Saint Jean Pied de Port as " startingpoint" is a recent invention from some guides and the movie the Way.
Most Spaniards would start in Roncesvalles or Pamplona.
European friends of mine started in Ostabat or some other villages way before the French/Spanish border.
I started in Roncesvalles but then again as an European I was able to visit the Pyrennees on many other occasions.

 

[Former member 102963]

For me the ideal was to do it is one go, on one trip, but before I had the time to do that, I would have accepted breaking it up into 2 x 2 trips. It has to be SJPP to SDC and have now also done thru to Finisterre.

I have no interest in catching buses, taxis, trains on part of the journey. I just don’t get that BUT have no problem with people that do, and in fact envy this as being someone who ‘needs’ to do it A-Z can be pressurising at times in all always of life!

 

[Paul Wilson]

When preparing to do the CF I had it in my mind that you “must” do SJPdP to SdC in one go, then covid came along and logistics changed so I went back and did my second attempt from where I stopped previously but injury ended that one early and I will go back and carry on from where I stopped, surprisingly this hasn’t messed with my OCD as much as I thought because it’s now “my Camino story” everyone’s is different and everyone’s writes itself as we go along, so I guess what I’m saying is don’t punish yourself before you go and don’t go packing pride or guilt (I did ), you won’t need them just enjoy your journey…buen camino mi amigo

 

[KFH]

If your friend can only do it in sections is there anything stopping you from continuing on your own to Santiago?

Unless something else came up where it worked out for me to do it in stages, the only thing holding me back would be hurting his feelings. I would prefer going with him as he is my best friend and we get along great on any adventure, but if it came down to it I would have no other issue going the rest of the way on my own.

My friend and I are on the same page right now. I just want to be prepared if the subject comes up again. And he is a fantastic guy-- he won't be unnecessarily upset or anything like that.

I'm trying to figure out if I'm just making too much of it in my mind. I don't think I am, but then I start thinking-- "If I'm willing to do half of Le Puy then the other half of Le Puy later, how different is that than doing the rest of it that way?"

I think what I want is to see what the long walk from SJPP-SDC will do to me. I don't think splitting it will have the same effect on me. But maybe I'm wrong.

 

[trecile]

I think what I want is to see what the long walk from SJPP-SDC will do to me. I don't think splitting it will have the same effect on me. But maybe I'm wrong

It's definitely my preference to walk at least a month. I do feel different than when I've walked a shorter distance.
And, although I'm not religious at all, there's something special to me about finishing in Santiago.

 

[Pilgrim9]

I have walked SJPdP -> SdC twice and Lisbon -> SdC once. Each time, I walked the full distance because doing so gave me a sense of achievement, mission-completion, and satisfaction.

Walking a very long distance also makes me feel healthy and fit and I lose excess weight, but I only start to get those latter benefits after the first ~500 kilometres. No change noticed before 500 km.

More minor reasons include the financial and environmental costs of flying round-trip from my home in North America to the Iberian peninsula - I choose to amortize those two categories of flight cost over longer trip times and walking distances.

For me it would make no sense to fly anywhere for the purposes of a walking trip, if my goal was to walk a mere few hundred kilometres.

 

[J Willhaus]

I don't think is a matter of how long you walk, but of your relationship with your friend. Friendships are important. Work it out between you whether it is a long or short distance depending on the amount of time you both have.

 

[woody66]

I wanted to walk all the way across a country, from the French border to the Atlantic ocean.

Yep that's the goal for me!
Woody

 

[Camino Chrissy]

My preference is to walk 4-6 weeks in one stretch. I think most of us, especially if retired, coming from the US, Canada or Austalia/NewZealand and the like, prefer to walk the longer distances if possible, paially due to logistics and the cost of flights. Those who come from EU/UK countries have far less expensive flight options and many, if they are young(ish) and still working, often do their Caminos in stages while on holiday as they do not have opportunity to do it all in one go...to each their own.
I notice I am starting to prefer being away from home for four weeks, rather than the six I have done in the past.

 

[dougfitz]

I have started in SJPP twice, but not because it was important to do a 'full' camino. The first time I started with a friend who had walked two years before, starting in Pamplona, and wanted to cross the Pyrenees. The second time I walked with my wife, and she was also determined to cross the Pyrenees.

Today, I find the notion that there is a 'full CF' a little strange. As has already been mentioned, it seems to be an artificial creation. When I first began to read more deeply into this, many sources suggested the CF started in Puente la Reina, where the routes across the northern section of the Pyrenees all came together.

Like others that travel long distances to reach wherever I will start walking, a more practical consideration is that it would be really expensive to break any pilgrimage into sections of less than about 30-40 days of walking. It was only when I had other commitments in England that I chose to walk for about 14 days, and did an extended CI and then walked to Muxia and Fisterra.

When I walked with a friend, even though we had done a lot of walking together before departing for Spain, we really didn't walk well together. After Burgos, we walked separately. We remain friends, but I would never contemplate walking the camino with him again.

 

[KFH]

There is no such thing as a full Camino Frances.
Saint Jean Pied de Port as " startingpoint" is a recent invention from some guides and the movie the Way.
Most Spaniards would start in Roncesvalles or Pamplona.
European friends of mine started in Ostabat or some other villages way before the French/Spanish border.
I started in Roncesvalles but then again as an European I was able to visit the Pyrennees on many other occasions.

Thanks Sabine, yes I know. I'm not so sure about using Roncesvalles as an example of contrast to "recent invention" SJPP. Most Spaniards nowadays actually start in Sarria, after of course driving or taking transportation there, and it seems to me that most people of any nationality who start in Roncesvalles understandably begin there in order to avoid the big hill.

My friend and I want the big hill and don't mind being influenced by a movie or book or a route which gradually became more popular over the last decades or century, because in the end it is not doable to walk out of my house and head toward Santiago like the pilgrims of old. Remember the movie was created based on something people were actually already doing, not the other way around.

To be clear, I'm specifically NOT criticizing anyone's starting point. Each and every starting point is valid to me. I just had to have a way to explain what I meant.

 

[Saint Mike II]

Great Post:
How far to walk and how important. Well I guess it will depend upon how much time you have and what is the most important sector of the camino to you.
I cycled from Pamplona in 2015 and walked from St Jean in 2017. Due to bad planning I did not walk to the Atlantic Ocean, so that will be built into my next camino.
As for walking "full distance" in one go again imho that is personal. Those of us to have to travel for 20 plus hours will usually do it all in one go. Those from France, Germany, Italy or UK can easily do it in segments.
Hope this helps. Cheers!

 

[henrythedog]

Thanks Sabine, yes I know. I'm not so sure about using Roncesvalles as an example of contrast to "recent invention" SJPP. Most Spaniards nowadays actually start in Sarria, after of course driving or taking transportation there, and it seems to me that most people of any nationality who start in Roncesvalles understandably begin there in order to avoid the big hill.

My friend and I want the big hill and don't mind being influenced by a movie or book or a route which gradually became more popular over the last decades or century, because in the end it is not doable to walk out of my house and head toward Santiago like the pilgrims of old. Remember the movie was created based on something people were actually already doing, not the other way around.

To be clear, I'm specifically NOT criticizing anyone's starting point. Each and every starting point is valid to me. I just had to have a way to explain what I meant.

The ‘big hill’ isn’t particularly big and any start-point other than your doorstep or parish church is someone else’s definition of a Camino, as you clearly already appreciate.

How can others’ experience inform or validate your decision?

 

[simply B]

For my first Camino, I was not even keen on being on the Camino.... I had four options for walking before arrival in France.

By the time that I arrived in France, three of my options were shut down for one reason or another.

I suppose that I COULD have adjusted in each of those options, BUT as I just needed a long walk, I went with the path of least resistance and made my way to SJPP by way of Bordeaux St. jean..

Very glad that I did for very personal reasons....

- it took me four days to get my body into the experience.

- it took me ten days to get my head into the experience.

- it took every minute of time after that to get the experience into mind, body, and spirit.

A slow learner I am.....the longer path suits me better after walking several.

B

 

[sugargypsy]

Those from France, Germany, Italy or UK can easily do it in segments.

I am from Germany, but I still wanted to walk the Camino "completely" ;-). (Though I started from Pamplona not SJPdP).

I was not sure, whether my physical condition was good enough to be able to cross the Pyrenees, and I definitely didn't want to stop, because I overtaxed myself in the beginning).

For me it was important, because I somehow sensed, that I would need time to adjust to walking. But also to have enough time to let go of everydays pressure.

Very glad that I did for very personal reasons....

- it took me four days to get my body into the experience.

- it took me ten days to get my head into the experience.

- it took every minute of time after that to get the experience into mind, body, and spirit.

A slow learner I am.....the longer path suits me better after walking several.

Thanks, you've discribed my feelings perfectly .

 

[JustJack]

For me the actual starting point isn't important, but it is important that I walk over the Pyrenees, and I really like how the first day is relatively gruelling when starting from SJPDP.

I also like how the CF seems to neatly divide itself into three segments, as I expect the physical landscape of each segment will match my mental state along the way. I'm looking forward to the mental distraction of climbing up and down and the beautiful panoramic views during the first part, and also looking forward to flat fields of wheat with few mental distractions for the second part. I haven't thought as far ahead as the third stage yet .

It's also important to me that I spend at least 1 month walking, more if possible. I'm looking forward to some of the mental and physical challenges that come with walking for such a long time. I don't want this to feel like a hiking holiday, which I fear it could if I walked a shorter distance.

So for me, the route from SJPDP to Santiago, and then onwards to Finisterre is perfect in terms of geography and length.

 

[Anthony18]

How important was it to you to do what might be called the "full" CF from SJPP to Santiago in one go?

I know a lot of people split it up into stages for various reasons (health, time, money), while some prefer the one long journey, and perhaps some people would only do the whole thing in one go.

(the background to this question is that due to a discussion with my buddy about CF, I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary. For instance, I would easily agree to split up Le Puy to SJPP if needed.

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

What was your experience? Either doing it in stages or in one long go, were you happy with your decision? Would you do it differently?

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

It was VERY important for me to do the camino-SJPP-SDC- in "one" go. Breaking it up to do over several trips would require the obvious return flights-which only seem to increase in price. Then there's the extra coordination with my wife/friends to look after my elderly mother while I'm away. She worries about me and I didn't want to put her through that more than necessary. I had discovered the camino sometime around 2016-17 and unfortunately lost my father in early 2018. Dealing with all that comes with losing a parent fell to me, and I hadn't grieved properly-so the camino called and off I went in June/July of 2019. I had asked 5 friends to come along. None could get away for a few weeks, let alone a month. I ended up going solo and it actually turned out to be the best thing for me. I hiked at my own pace, stopped when I wanted, took pictures and videos, went off trail, enjoyed the small towns and big cities, prayed in amazing cathedrals and went deep inside of myself as I witnessed fairy tale landscapes. Alone in a foreign country for 35 days with just the essentials "on your back" will teach you a lot about yourself and about what really matters. The thru-hike was challenging, my body ached at times, I missed my loved ones- but it was totally worth it. I felt a great sense of accomplishment when I looked up at the cathedral in SDC and glimpsed at St. James's golden sarcophagus within. This was the right way for me to do it. The best way to do the camino is the way that works for you. Buen camino!

 

[Kathor1]

I am one of those people who finds the starting point of SJPP as artificial and random as any other. I know that the “full Camino Francés“ is a modern invention. I even know that the part from SJPP used to be known as the Camino Navarro, and in my notes the Camino Francés starts near Puente La Reina and not in SJPP.

However, “the full Camino Francés” has now become “a thing”, just like other Camino trails with a label, and people want to say that they have done it, or feel an urge to do it, as a whole.

I tend to think more in days than in kilometres. I like to walk for two weeks, perhaps three weeks, and not more. It is a choice and not a constraint. Walking for 30 to 40 days does not appeal to me, no matter how much some Camino walkers describe their experience as fabulous or life changing or in similar terms. I’ve never regretted my approach to walk to Santiago in segments and I would do it in a similar way again.

 

[Kathor1]

I start thinking-- "If I'm willing to do half of Le Puy then the other half of Le Puy later, how different is that than doing the rest of it that way?" I think what I want is to see what the long walk from SJPP-SDC will do to me. I don't think splitting it will have the same effect on me. But maybe I'm wrong.

So is this the issue: You would be ok with splitting "Le Puy en Valais to Santiago" into two segments, say "Puy to Pamplona" and "Pamplona to SdC" - or would the breakpoint have to be SJPP??? - and you fear that you would not be ok with splitting SJPP to Santiago into two segments, say "SJPP to Burgos" and "Burgos to SdC"?

I don't know why you feel like this but my guess is that it has to do with the fact that you have read already too many blogs, books and forum posts about the Camino experience of others that go beyond mere logistics. There is a fear that one might be missing out on the emotional / transformational experience that others have described for themselves so that one may easily get the impression that it is a universal experience; the fear that you won't find yourself deep down, you won't figure out who you are meant to be, you won't know where to go from here, you won't be able to deal with grief and loss unless you have walked "the full Camino Francés"? Just wondering, just throwing this out.

The narrative that the Camino Francés supposedly consists of three major geographical segments that match the walker's supposedly and equally long three major states of body, mind and I guess soul as s/he proceeds day by day are such an example. The near mythical crossing of a mountain range at one end - where it is already petering out - by walking over a minor elevation is another of these narratives.

I consider myself extremely lucky that I did not know these narratives, that I knew next to nothing, nada, zero about how others had experienced their walk to Santiago when I set out myself.

 

[Anamya]

For me, the importance of doing a "full CF" was (and still is) zero. I was always attracted to the experience, not to a particular place or distance. My only arbitrary decisions is that I wanted my first Camino would be the CF, and that I wanted to finish in Santiago, doing more than 100km for a Compostela. For me, ending in Santiago was actually more importanting than starting here or there. Given budget and leave conditions when I did my first walk, starting in Burgos was the perfect decision.

Considering what @Kathar1na said above, I first heard of the camino in the 1980s, much before The Way and all the guides were out. So I grew up dreaming about doing this "trail in Spain, where you walk from your door to the Cathedral", not from "SJPP to Santiago".

Would I change anything in my trip? No. Do I feel the need to walk from SJPD on day? No. Would I do it, if had the chance? Yes, like I would with any of the other caminos.

 

[Bradypus]

I consider myself extremely lucky that I did not know these narratives, that I knew next to nothing, nada, zero about how others had experienced their walk to Santiago when I set out myself.

I walked my first Camino after reading just one account of the journey - Laurie Dennett's 1987 "A Hug for the Apostle". And I spoke at some length with my mother-in-law about her own Camino walk in 1985. No chat on internet forums. No watching Youtube videos. So I arrived in France on my first solo journey abroad with very little advance knowledge of the Caminos and with only very vague preconceptions of what it would be like. I am sure that the gradual revelations and frequent discoveries as I walked those 800km would have been a far less powerful and positive experience if I had already walked every step virtually through the eyes of a dozen authors and a hundred vloggers.

 

[pepi]

The near mythical crossing of a mountain range at one end - where it is already petering out - by walking over a minor elevation is another of these narratives.

Ahh, so well said . But then "crossing the Pyrenees" and "walking from France to Spain" sound so much grander than "I walked over a hill and descended to the other side of an (invisible-) border"

There is no such thing as a full Camino Frances.
Saint Jean Pied de Port as " startingpoint" is a recent invention from some guides and the movie the Way.

Precisely!
Regardless of personal reasons for walking the Camino, I understand it as a journey of reflection and that has nothing to do with any specific starting point. For me, btw, Santiago as a destination is not relevant either, except that a path also has an end somewhere.
But it's just that modern society is conditioned to think that everything has to conform to a clearly outlined script.
For me personally, it's important that the path be long enough to leave everything behind, get into a daily routine, and then reach that state of contemplation that allows me to get to the real me. Where this path begins and ends is not relevant, what is important is what happens in between. This includes meeting wonderful people from all over the world; the venues are secondary photo opportunities.

 

[nilesite]

Not a bit. In fact, I've been walking the Camino since 2009 and have never walked the entire route in one go, St. Jean to Santiago. There are several short bits I've never walked. I've always tried to focus on just that one day. When you have the Camino all to yourself and it's not raining and you find a bar open to warm up a bit. I walk in December.

 

[AnneO]

For me the decision where to start was nothing more than a calculation of wanting to walk a certain distance per day for a certain number of days. So I will start in Pamplona. End of consideration. And honestly, walking over the Pyrenees doesn’t hold a ton of interest for me. I am nervous enough already (I am starting next May) about the first day over Alto de Perdon.

 

[julia-t]

I walked in stages because I thought if I waited until I had the time to do it in one go, I’d not have the energy or health to do so.
It was more important to me to get to the Camino and make a start rather than wait.
From September 2015 to April 2017 I walked over 5 stages, from 5 days to 2 weeks.
It’s hard to say goodbye to friends when you leave and they are continuing, but it’s so easy to keep in touch social media these days.
One day I would like to walk again to really get that sense of continuity I feel I missed out on, but there are other places and countries I want to visit too - I’ve just been trekking in Nepal. That’s tougher than anything on the Camino, but equally as rewarding.

 

[J Willhaus]

The first time we walked in 2016 we had only a narrow idea about the Camino. We met lots of people walking only shorter segments over a limited amount of time. It was the only way they could complete the pilgrimage with work and busy family lives.

Now after walking and volunteering several years we know this is very commonplace. We've served on different routes and met more veteran pilgrims.

Do what feels right as you are walking. There is no wrong way. Try to let the pilgrimage envelop you rather than imposing your own notions about the journey. We find that our plans and thoughts are quickly dispelled by reality during the pilgrimage. An illness or injury changes the dynamic. Finding a special place to stay or receiving some special kindness or blessing cements certain towns in your heart. Just go there and start somewhere and walk and let the way unfold.

 

[Adelina]

It was a relief for me to know I could walk in stages - I have a husband, dog, and other responsibilities at home. My first Camino (on my own) was from Astorga to Santiago - with that destination in mind. The second time, I went from St. Jean for 14 days to wherever I arrived. Both were very valuable and worthwhile. This past May, my husband joined me and we did Porto to Santiago. I find every which way valuable!

 

[WalkingPlaylist]

As I did it with my Dad, I am so glad we did it in one shot. It gave us time to learn "How to" Camino, settle into a routine, and enjoy the journey. We did the Frances in 2017, and then the Portugese in 2019, and God willing after years of delay the Primitivo in 2023. Tomorrow is not guaranteed and although it took more time and planning it was well worth it. Each time is special but honestly I'd take any time as it is a blessing even if you have to do it in stages. Logistics wise it is easier to do in one trip.

 

[Guateboston]

How important was it to you to do what might be called the "full" CF from SJPP to Santiago in one go?

I know a lot of people split it up into stages for various reasons (health, time, money), while some prefer the one long journey, and perhaps some people would only do the whole thing in one go.

(the background to this question is that due to a discussion with my buddy about CF, I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary. For instance, I would easily agree to split up Le Puy to SJPP if needed.

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

What was your experience? Either doing it in stages or in one long go, were you happy with your decision? Would you do it differently?

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

It is your Camino! Did the Frances, walking every stage from St Jean to Compostela. Did the Norte from Irún to Compostela, skipping some sections that were mostly
pavement walking, which I could never had done on my first. But I think that if possible to truly disconnect, the longer you walk the more you experience inwardly. It takes time to let go of ourselves and fall into the Camino groove. Will do Le Puy next spring but only one or two sections. So again, there is no right or wrong way, the important thing is to listen to your heart.

 

[roving_rufus]

Having the time to walk the CF in one go has never been an option for me. So I just section walk - whether it was the CF or the CP from Lisbon, the VF to Rome or currently I am working on a route from home in Ireland which I am walking in sections and not necessarily in order. Maybe one day I will get to do a "full" route in one go (other than the Ingles) but I am always heading somewhere on pilgrimage which has its own intriguing feeling

 

[lisagb]

How important was it to you to do what might be called the "full" CF from SJPP to Santiago in one go?

I know a lot of people split it up into stages for various reasons (health, time, money), while some prefer the one long journey, and perhaps some people would only do the whole thing in one go.

(the background to this question is that due to a discussion with my buddy about CF, I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary. For instance, I would easily agree to split up Le Puy to SJPP if needed.

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

What was your experience? Either doing it in stages or in one long go, were you happy with your decision? Would you do it differently?

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

I am splitting the Le Puy to SSJP into three trips. I’ve finished two and have a third left. It’s due to money, time and the desire to have a chunk of time to do other things while I’m over in Europe. It’s lovely to do it that way but I also see the beauty in doing it in one long trip. Whichever you decide it will be right for you!

 

[VNwalking]

But then "crossing the Pyrenees" and "walking from France to Spain" sound so much grander than "I walked over a hill and descended to the other side of an (invisible-) border"

Even though the last bit is the truth, the mythology of the first part has a stubborn hold.

But it's just a hill.
If people want to be heroes in their own stories and "cross the Pyrenees" they need to go further East and walk the Aragones from Pau. And maybe walk via the Chemin de la Mâture and the Col d'Ayous.

The whole camino exists in many forms, all good. Home to Santiago and back is a whole camino, as is Sarria to Santiago.

I like a month to 6 weeks: you really get into a rhythm that way. Even 2 weeks feels too short.

 

[Kitsambler]

Having walked from Prague to SJPP in stages over several years, let me say this: You are not in control of your pilgrimage. Be open to walking shorter, or longer, as seems fitting in the moment. This is the major lesson of the experience: you are not in control.

 

[Camino Chrissy]

I've never walked "up and over the big hill". I chose the Valcarlos option on my first Camino out of fear of injury walking the first day. I enjoyed it so much for its variety, that I purposely chose it again the next time I walked the Frances.

 

[Anthony Rocco]

How important was it to you to do what might be called the "full" CF from SJPP to Santiago in one go?

I know a lot of people split it up into stages for various reasons (health, time, money), while some prefer the one long journey, and perhaps some people would only do the whole thing in one go.

(the background to this question is that due to a discussion with my buddy about CF, I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary. For instance, I would easily agree to split up Le Puy to SJPP if needed.

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

What was your experience? Either doing it in stages or in one long go, were you happy with your decision? Would you do it differently?

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

There is no right or wrong way to walk the camino. Our first camino was what some would call "pure:" we walked every step from SJPdP to Santiago. We went through all the challenges and emotions a pilgrim faces, including blisters, storms, exhaustion, hunger, no room available to unforgettable friends, spiritual moments, a world in which everyone cares about each other, etc. But we also learned that one need not do the full, pure camino to get the camino/experience. Since then, we have walked many camino paths, not always walking, not always carrying everything on our back, not always winging it on where we will stay, not always staying in albergues, not always walking long distances. Our most recent, two months, had us zigzagging between the Camino Central and Coastal on the Portugues.

I would still recommend that you walk your first camino a) on the Frances, and b) as much as your time allows. But...let me reiterate...there is no right way or wrong way. It's YOUR way.

 

[GuyA]

An interesting post as I have done both...enjoyed all experiences, and am considering split Caminos in the future. In 2013 started walking in Rorschach Switzerland with the grand plan of walking to Finisterre in one go. One day out of Geneva had to return home due to emergency health situation. Returned 5 weeks later to where I stopped...walked to St. Jean Pied de Port...stopped to attend daughters wedding. Spring of 2014 walked from SJPP to Finisterre...all in all a great sense of accomplishment yet actual was far from the grand plan!

2018 Camino Portuguese...Lisbon to Santiago de Compostela...only 4 days in and severe blister problem...on to Porto by train...rested and hobbled to Santiago de Compostela...again felt great...well feet weren’t happy !

2022 Camino Primitivo and San Salvador...all went according to plan!

Now looking at future options walking in 2-3 week chunks...do I walk from X to Santiago de Compostela OR do I walk the Camino Norte (example) in two stages. Based on past experience this would be a good option for me.

 

[bearwithme]

How important was it to you to do what might be called the "full" CF from SJPP to Santiago in one go?

I know a lot of people split it up into stages for various reasons (health, time, money), while some prefer the one long journey, and perhaps some people would only do the whole thing in one go.

(the background to this question is that due to a discussion with my buddy about CF, I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary. For instance, I would easily agree to split up Le Puy to SJPP if needed.

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

What was your experience? Either doing it in stages or in one long go, were you happy with your decision? Would you do it differently?

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

I did it in one effort and am glad that I did. It takes a bit for the Camino to “work” on you and when it does, the experience of a lifetime.
Two years prior to my walk, my wife and a friend did the last 100 kms and that taste was enough to get me into planning for the longer walk.
The walk was very uplifting and gave me days to reflect upon my like and those things that I hold dear. To have broken up the walk would not have been as meaningful to me

 

[Trekker One]

On our first Camino, there was no possibility of being away from work for four plus weeks, so we started from Ponferada. We wanted to get to Santiago on this Camino because honestly prior to walking our first Camino we were quite sure our Camino would be of the 'one and done' variety.
Once completed and home we realized we wanted to do more, but again we still working so year two was Burgos to Ponferada. Year three was SJPP to Burgos. We then jumped on a bus to Sarria and walked the final 100k into Santiago again.
Would I like to walk it all in one shot, sure, but my Camino experiences don't feel 'lessor' having done it piecemeal.
In 2019 we walked with friends who were 'Camino Newbies from Astorga to Santiago.
As has been often stated on this forum there is no right or wrong way to go about walking a Camino.

 

[Quinranda]

I've done both actually. My first trip in 2016, I walked Leon to Finisterre. The second in 2017, I walked SJPP to Burgos. This year, I walked the whole CF and on to the coast. Each time was amazing, wonderful, challenging in it's own way. But for me, walking the entire route felt really special this year. Without time constrants, I'd walk the whole thing. There was something very special about seeing people I started with at the very end. There was something special about having all that time to lose myself in the experience. You honesty can't go wrong, just my two cents here.

 

[Rita Flower]

How important was it to you to do what might be called the "full" CF from SJPP to Santiago in one go?

I know a lot of people split it up into stages for various reasons (health, time, money), while some prefer the one long journey, and perhaps some people would only do the whole thing in one go.

(the background to this question is that due to a discussion with my buddy about CF, I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary. For instance, I would easily agree to split up Le Puy to SJPP if needed.

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

What was your experience? Either doing it in stages or in one long go, were you happy with your decision? Would you do it differently?

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

I did the Frances in one go in 2007. It was fabulous and changed so much in my life.
What I (and others who started with me in SJPP) noticed was that a longer Camino seems to be a more powerful tool for the personal growth / spiritual growth - which often doesn’t start to emerge until after you have been on the road for a few weeks. I think you can probably keep old habits in place for a couple of weeks but not for a longer period. Today I am 40 km from Santiago on Via de la Plata starting from Sevilla on 22 September. It has been amazing to watch the inner and outer changes as the weeks have rolled by. This doesn’t happen in two weeks.
There is also something about making that longer commitment and seeing it through.
However if time and money only allow for a shorter Camino then it seems to me that is perfect for that person.
But if you can do Frances in one go then do it - don’t miss the gifts and blessings that will arise.

 

[Rita Flower]

Unless something else came up where it worked out for me to do it in stages, the only thing holding me back would be hurting his feelings. I would prefer going with him as he is my best friend and we get along great on any adventure, but if it came down to it I would have no other issue going the rest of the way on my own.

My friend and I are on the same page right now. I just want to be prepared if the subject comes up again. And he is a fantastic guy-- he won't be unnecessarily upset or anything like that.

I'm trying to figure out if I'm just making too much of it in my mind. I don't think I am, but then I start thinking-- "If I'm willing to do half of Le Puy then the other half of Le Puy later, how different is that than doing the rest of it that way?"

I think what I want is to see what the long walk from SJPP-SDC will do to me. I don't think splitting it will have the same effect on me. But maybe I'm wrong.

I agree that there is something weirdly mysterious about doing SJPP to Santiago in one go. Don’t ignore the pull.

 

[Glamgrrl]

How important was it to you to do what might be called the "full" CF from SJPP to Santiago in one go?

I know a lot of people split it up into stages for various reasons (health, time, money), while some prefer the one long journey, and perhaps some people would only do the whole thing in one go.

(the background to this question is that due to a discussion with my buddy about CF, I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary. For instance, I would easily agree to split up Le Puy to SJPP if needed.

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

What was your experience? Either doing it in stages or in one long go, were you happy with your decision? Would you do it differently?

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

it was important to walk the full distance we had planned, but in the end if one of us had to stop, that was ok too.

 

[Natale]

How important was it to you to do what might be called the "full" CF from SJPP to Santiago in one go?

I know a lot of people split it up into stages for various reasons (health, time, money), while some prefer the one long journey, and perhaps some people would only do the whole thing in one go.

(the background to this question is that due to a discussion with my buddy about CF, I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary. For instance, I would easily agree to split up Le Puy to SJPP if needed.

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

What was your experience? Either doing it in stages or in one long go, were you happy with your decision? Would you do it differently?

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

I walked the entire CF last and I wouldn't change a think. It was the best experience of my life that will live with me forever. I met a few people that had walked in stages because of time. I respect that and it worked for them. I am retired so I had all the time I needed. Since then I have walked 4 Camino's to Santiago. The choice is yours and so is your Camino. Buen Camino

 

[FourSeasons]

The movie "The Way" showed me the Camino and the "Brierly" guide taught me the Camino. This is how I learned the Camino (for me) started in SJPdP so, I planned accordingly. Before my first Camino, I didn't know this forum existed and I had no other input other than those two sources. I'm grateful not to have known too much before my first. Doing the full length of this route all in one go left me feeling accomplished and as many have said it took me through the stages of physical, emotional and spiritual. It allowed me to build a Camino family. There's nothing like seeing familiar faces at the end of a long day or having a family member walk up on you after you've started in the morning, walk with you for a little while before they disappear into the horizon but you know you'll see them at the next cafe or come end of day. There is more time to experience Camino magic. For me there is no planning a Camino, especially the Frances if I can't start from SJPdP. After I was home, I was so mellow, I felt at peace. Material things didn't matter, I became somewhat of a minimalist. Life challenges seemed easier, I mean geez, I just walked across a country.
Buen Camino!!

 

[Vancouver Rose]

I have walked SJPdP -> SdC twice and Lisbon -> SdC once. Each time, I walked the full distance because doing so gave me a sense of achievement, mission-completion, and satisfaction.

Walking a very long distance also makes me feel healthy and fit and I lose excess weight, but I only start to get those latter benefits after the first ~500 kilometres. No change noticed before 500 km.

More minor reasons include the financial and environmental costs of flying round-trip from my home in North America to the Iberian peninsula - I choose to amortize those two categories of flight cost over longer trip times and walking distances.

For me it would make no sense to fly anywhere for the purposes of a walking trip, if my goal was to walk a mere few hundred kilometres.

Agreed. Flew from Canada at great expense. Had I not done it in one trip, I don't believe I would've gone back.

 

[Vancouver Rose]

For me, walking the full CF in one go allowed me to feel the full affects of the journey, as opposed to chunks. It was pretty profound to go from wheezing my way over the Pyrenees to blazing into Santiago, stronger, clearer and triumphant. There was something about going through Galicia that was almost mystical (I've experienced this both times). Walking from Santiago to the Atlantic Ocean was downright floaty and magical.

Agreed. Similar to my experience. And being from the True North, sea level in my case, may also have contributed to the amount of huffing/puffing over the Pyrenees. In addition to everything you've said, I also found that staying in Orisson on the way over the Pyrenees, allowed me to meet so many others and hear their stories, have them hear mine, and then look out for one another for the next 40 days. I'm also grateful for not having done the Brierley stages, but rather the VancouverRose stages that suited me. And from Santiago, I took the bus to Finisterre to throw my Pacific Ocean rocks (2 burdens which I carried) off the End of the Earth.

 

[cardifflad52]

How important was it to you to do what might be called the "full" CF from SJPP to Santiago in one go?

I know a lot of people split it up into stages for various reasons (health, time, money), while some prefer the one long journey, and perhaps some people would only do the whole thing in one go.

(the background to this question is that due to a discussion with my buddy about CF, I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary. For instance, I would easily agree to split up Le Puy to SJPP if needed.

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

What was your experience? Either doing it in stages or in one long go, were you happy with your decision? Would you do it differently?

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

Although it is between 30-35 day hike it surely goes very quickly especially if walking with others, I always found that the daily walk of 20-25km seemed to be over by just after 3pm .. I always split my walk days into 4 stages with three breaks , 2 coffee breaks and a lunch break in between ..I found the experience very addictive, with those I came across not just other pilgrims but the locals too , the smell of coffee and the pastry first thing in the morning coming from the bakery the beautiful and quaint villages , mind you don't be surprised if you don't see anyone in some of the villages you walk through , there is only about 4 hard days which can be a struggle ..to complete it in one go is a privilege as not many have the time or funds to do it that's why they complete it in stages .. for me when I flew out of the UK to Biarritz I just brought a one way ticket for about 20€ that way I knew I had all the time in the world to do it and it was easier than what I thought it would be in that it's well signposted ..have a lovely experience and Buen Camino

 

[cardifflad52]

Although it is between 30-35 day hike it surely goes very quickly especially if walking with others, I always found that the daily walk of 20-25km seemed to be over by just after 3pm .. I always split my walk days into 4 stages with three breaks , 2 coffee breaks and a lunch break in between ..I found the experience very addictive, with those I came across not just other pilgrims but the locals too , the smell of coffee and the pastry first thing in the morning coming from the bakery the beautiful and quaint villages , mind you don't be surprised if you don't see anyone in some of the villages you walk through , there is only about 4 hard days which can be a struggle ..to complete it in one go is a privilege as not many have the time or funds to do it that's why they complete it in stages .. for me when I flew out of the UK to Biarritz I just brought a one way ticket for about 20€ that way I knew I had all the time in the world to do it and it was easier than what I thought it would be in that it's well signposted ..have a lovely experience and Buen Camino

Saying all that I shall return as it is what you call a bug , infection .. this time however thinking of taking my tent and just book in somewhere for one night a week

 

[KellysMom]

The decision, for me, to walk the "whole" Camino Frances was made for a few reasons. I felt it was going to be a once in a lifetime experience due to financial reasons as well as how far I was travelling to do it (Western Canada) and also because of the personal backstory as to why I felt I needed to leave my home and walk across a country. I started in SJPDP and by the time I got to SDC I wished I would have included Finisterre/Muxia. That was in 2019 and now I am in the middle of planning my Camino Portuguese from Lisbon to SDC and then on to Finisterre

 

[PilgrimPillar]

Completing pilgrimages in a “repetitive manner” since 2016 has learned me that there is a period of adaptation. For me that has ranged from 11 to 17 days. Then there is a change mentally and physically. I strongly recommend to walk 14 days plus to fully take ownership of the transformative process. Given by staying on path, beeing empathetic/altruistic with one self and others…

Ultreia

Pilgrimages completed;

Camino de Levante out of Valencia
Camino de Portugues out of Faro
Camino Frances out of St. Jean x 2
Camino del Norte out of Irún
Camino Ingles out of Ferrol
Camino de Sanabres
Camino de Madrid
Via Jutlandica out of Padborg
Via del a Plata out of Sevilla
Via Augusta out of Cadiz
Via Algarviana
Rota Vicentina
Fisterra Muxia
Magna Via de Francigena
Francigena Sud out of Trapani
Tunsbergleden out of Oslo
Hærvejen out of Hirtshals
Kvite Kyrkjer out of Gransherad
St Olav’s Way out of Munkeby
St Olav’s Way out of Oslo

How important was it to you to do what might be called the "full" CF from SJPP to Santiago in one go?

I know a lot of people split it up into stages for various reasons (health, time, money), while some prefer the one long journey, and perhaps some people would only do the whole thing in one go.

(the background to this question is that due to a discussion with my buddy about CF, I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary. For instance, I would easily agree to split up Le Puy to SJPP if needed.

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

What was your experience? Either doing it in stages or in one long go, were you happy with your decision? Would you do it differently?

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

 

[fernweh]

How important was it to you to do what might be called the "full" CF from SJPP to Santiago in one go?

I know a lot of people split it up into stages for various reasons (health, time, money), while some prefer the one long journey, and perhaps some people would only do the whole thing in one go.

(the background to this question is that due to a discussion with my buddy about CF, I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary. For instance, I would easily agree to split up Le Puy to SJPP if needed.

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

What was your experience? Either doing it in stages or in one long go, were you happy with your decision? Would you do it differently?

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

Hi KFH,

My intention was to walk from SJPD all the way to Santiago – that had been my dream since I saw the movie. I don’t care if it was a recent invention; the movie reached out to me and inspired me. And (my friend and) I were determined to walk that route – all the way to Finisterre. Personally, I was looking forward to being away for six weeks. Also, I live on the west coast of the U.S. and it’s a looong way to Spain.

We wanted to walk over the Pyrenees (it’s not a cake walk for everyone). We wanted to see the historical old monasteries, cathedrals, buildings; experience all the characteristics of each region, city and town the route traveled through. Because of family obligations, it turned out we would only have time to walk to Santiago. We set out in August from St Jean. The heat was horrible, but we enjoyed every aching, sweating minute.

By the eighth day, we felt strong, acclimated, happy – into the rhythm of the Camino. We had met the most wonderful people, had amazing experiences. And that’s the day our Camino was interrupted. I took a bad fall, broke my elbow in three places and had to return to the U.S. for surgery. My friend had originally intended to walk it alone if I hadn’t been able to; and I implored her to go on to finish without me. However, at that point, she told me she no longer wanted to walk it alone. (We were having the best time sharing the experience.) So, she returned to the U.S. with me.

We are planning our return in May/June 2023 to finish, starting from close to where I fell and will continue on to Finisterre this time. My heart was set on doing the whole trek and I was absolutely devastated when I/we had to cut it short! I think about the Camino. every. single. day. Will it be the same? Going to find out...

If your gut tells you to walk the whole route, do it - if you can. And I hope you can do it all with your friend.
Buen Camino!

 

[JimG59]

I wanted to walk from StJPdP to Santiago and beyond in one go. Taking vocational freedom this year allowed that to happen. I didn’t want to use 6 weeks holiday to walk and leave no further holiday time. I also don’t want to walk it in say 2 week stages. Quite a few people were racing the clock to ensure they were in Santiago by a specific date to begin travel home.

 

[Susan T]

For me, walking the full CF in one go allowed me to feel the full affects of the journey, as opposed to chunks. It was pretty profound to go from wheezing my way over the Pyrenees to blazing into Santiago, stronger, clearer and triumphant. There was something about going through Galicia that was almost mystical (I've experienced this both times). Walking from Santiago to the Atlantic Ocean was downright floaty and magical.

You described my 2013 journey too — the physical, the emotional, and the mystical. I became obsessed with walking more, so after the SJPDP-SDC I walked to Finisterre and on to Muxia. I bussed back to Santiago. I took a bus to walk 16 miles/the last stage of the Portuguese to SDC. I had the time and met with people that arrived in SDC days after I did for wonderful reunions. When my time was up, I still did not want to take public transportation. So, the day before my flight to Madrid I walked to the airport as a “dry run” to actually walking as much as possible in modern times. On departure day, I walked and got there 3 hours early since I did not know just how long I would need to process my trip. I must say — I paced around the waiting area, an American Pilgrim pacing the perimeter like a wild cat. My final arrival in Portland OR had me walking fast again through the PDX airport to catch the light rail before the last departure of the night — only to be chased by my hubby who had to run to catch up with me. Sweet darling he is to offer me a safe ride to our home!

 

[David Tallan]

How important was it to you to do what might be called the "full" CF from SJPP to Santiago in one go?

I know a lot of people split it up into stages for various reasons (health, time, money), while some prefer the one long journey, and perhaps some people would only do the whole thing in one go.

(the background to this question is that due to a discussion with my buddy about CF, I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary. For instance, I would easily agree to split up Le Puy to SJPP if needed.

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

What was your experience? Either doing it in stages or in one long go, were you happy with your decision? Would you do it differently?

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

It may be an answer that, none of my CFs have been from SJPP to Santiago. Both started in Roncesvalles, one to Santiago and the other to Finisterre.

If I were to do a CF starting in France (likely the next one I do), I don't expect to start in SJPP, either. Possibly Ostabat, possibly Le Puy or Vezelay or Paris or Arles.

So starting in SJPP doesn't have a lot of importance to me and isn't a criterion for what I would consider a "full" CF.

That said, although I haven't walked it in sections, a lot of Europeans do and seem to find it worthwhile. I do know that when I only walked for a couple of weeks (Porto to Santiago), I had the feeling that it ended just when it was getting started. But that was after recently spending 6 weeks on the CF/Finisterre.

 

[Jim]

I walked a rather minimum Camino the first time around (130 km). Reason: lone female and feeling very unsure how I would do walking long distances day after day. This was let alone safety concerns, not knowing all the ropes, etc. etc. So I regard the first couple of caminos as "getting my feet wet, yet all very meaningful.
A few years later, I was much more knowledgeable about the things available to check out, some of which are a short distance from the Camino trail itself. Teh guidebooks made more sense to me. So I ended up walking the whole Frances trail a few years after my first venture. It was great, but have to remark that all my walking was great!
I feel that I had a more meaningful experience than I could have ever had if I had walked the length from SJPDP to SDC on my first try, but that's me. Every person has different feelings and experiences that color what would be best for them. I think it would not be in everyone's best interest to advocate a particular length to one's Camino, which route to take, etc. I would say enjoy what you set out to do and don't fail to learn what's out there. Spain is very rich in culture, history, spirituality and on and on. You will come away all the richer by just having an open mind and an open heart.

 

[OTH86]

IMHO, the only thing important about The Camino is being there.

 

[Graeme Cook]

How important was it to you to do what might be called the "full" CF from SJPP to Santiago in one go?

I know a lot of people split it up into stages for various reasons (health, time, money), while some prefer the one long journey, and perhaps some people would only do the whole thing in one go.

(the background to this question is that due to a discussion with my buddy about CF, I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary. For instance, I would easily agree to split up Le Puy to SJPP if needed.

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

What was your experience? Either doing it in stages or in one long go, were you happy with your decision? Would you do it differently?

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

Mrs C and I walked the SJPP to Santiago route earlier this year. At the time it was important to us to do it all in one go, walking every step of the way with our rucksacks on our backs and it was the physical challenge, as had been described in all the books I had read beforehand, that mainly appealed. As for the magic of the Camino, I was a good four weeks in before I really began to see it so I’m thankful that we were walking long enough for me to get to that point. If all goes to plan, we intend to walk the Portuguese route next May with friends. It will be very different but I expect to be starting from a very different metaphorical place this time round.

 

[Richard Smith]

For me, the number of days matters more than the kms.
I think a minimum of 21 days is required and 28 days is better.

 

[Rolotom]

How important was it to you to do what might be called the "full" CF from SJPP to Santiago in one go?

I know a lot of people split it up into stages for various reasons (health, time, money), while some prefer the one long journey, and perhaps some people would only do the whole thing in one go.

(the background to this question is that due to a discussion with my buddy about CF, I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary. For instance, I would easily agree to split up Le Puy to SJPP if needed.

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

What was your experience? Either doing it in stages or in one long go, were you happy with your decision? Would you do it differently?

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

Did it in one go in 2021 at 71....BEST thing I have ever done in my life!! Since then I have done the Portuguese from Porto and the via Francegina (Lucca to Vatican). GO FOR IT!

 

[Vancouver Rose]

Agree that it took about 4 weeks for the magic to kick in. So glad I walked long enough (40 days) to enjoy it awhile.

 

[Roland49]

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

I've done it in one go of 27 days in 2019. It was awesome and somehow life-changing. Booked flight back home from the Albergue in Sarria.

On the CF I've met a german couple that were on their third part. The've done SJPdP to Burgos, Burgos to Léon and their third part was Léon to SdC. They used a part of their vacation days for walking each year and they were happy with their attempt. As far as I did hear from the talks we had, they were forced by the vacation policies of their employers to walk in thirds.

The reason why I was walking "the whole" CF: I don't fly regularly, only for really relevant matters, I want to reduce my impact on the climate. Travelling by train across borders in Europe is somehow a PITA.
I have "limited" PTO (30 days per year) only in summer break. I wanted to walk a long distance before I turn 50. I have difficulties adapting to new situations, therefore I wanted to walk as long as I was able to.

Little did I know how immersive the surroundings, sounds and sights and the fellow pilgrims on the walk are and how extremly impacting the experience will be on my life.

 

[isawtman]

Here's my take. If you do the whole camino from St Jean in one shot, you will have a richer experience in Santiago. This will especially happen if you are hiking the full camino in around 30 days. Then you will meet several people in Santiago that you met along the way, and they will be there congratulating you.
That's why I suggest that everyone stay in Santiago for at least two days.. This works good if you are an average hiker and there are people you know ahead of you and behind you. I checked the plaza about 3 times a day for 2 days and everytime there were people I knew that had completed the course. If you are a slow hiker and there is absolutely nobody behind you that you know, than this technique doesn't work as good.

 

[Rick of Rick and Peg]

If you are a slow hiker and there is absolutely nobody behind you that you know, than this technique doesn't work as good.

No, but it was nice meeting the faster folks who waited around a few days or came back from Finisterre or Muxia.

 

[SabsP]

Here's my take. If you do the whole camino from St Jean in one shot, you will have a richer experience in Santiago. This will especially happen if you are hiking the full camino in around 30 days. Then you will meet several people in Santiago that you met along the way, and they will be there congratulating you.
That's why I suggest that everyone stay in Santiago for at least two days.. This works good if you are an average hiker and there are people you know ahead of you and behind you. I checked the plaza about 3 times a day for 2 days and everytime there were people I knew that had completed the course. If you are a slow hiker and there is absolutely nobody behind you that you know, than this technique doesn't work as good.

Except if you do not follow the " the full Camino in 30 days" concept which is artificial to begin with.
Or that weird concept of " a Camino family". Family I have at home. Friends I may or may not find on a Camino.
Personally I do not hike a Camino but walk a pilgrim path.

 

[Kathor1]

Here's my take. If you do the whole camino from St Jean in one shot, you will have a richer experience in Santiago. This will especially happen if you are hiking the full camino in around 30 days. Then you will meet several people in Santiago that you met along the way, and they will be there congratulating you.

This comment made me smile.

Since I had chosen to walk in segments over several years, I had the good fortune of sharing my rather long Camino walk with family or with friends now and then, and I have wonderful memories of this. Eventually, it became particularly important to me that I could share the very last section, into Santiago, with one of them, a close family member. I waited until their schedule allowed this, and together we arrived on a cold and rainy November afternoon at the Praza do Obradoiro which was empty.

And just like others have described their own arrival in Santiago: I would not have wanted it any other way. It was just wonderful.

 

[C clearly]

This will especially happen if you are hiking the full camino in around 30 days. Then you will meet several people in Santiago that you met along the way,

This will probably happen if you walk the camino in around 35 days, or 40 days, or even 45. Or walk from an intermediate point in less time.

 

[dougfitz]

If you do the whole camino from St Jean in one shot, you will have a richer experience in Santiago.

Having done both short and long pilgrimage walks, some more solitary and others more social, I don't recall thinking that any one was a 'richer experience' than the others based on the distance walked.

Also, I learned many years ago that the 'whole camino' is the one you are doing, whether it is someone walking from Tui or Sarria, Porto or Leon, or even those wonderful pilgrims I met who have walked from their own homes in Belgium or Norway. My own view is that it is up to me to prepare myself physically, mentally and spiritually for the pilgrimage that I am on, be it short, or long, lonesome or packed with people. (note - see postscript below)

That also means being prepared for the nature of my pilgrimage to change along the way, something I probably didn't appreciate that much when I first walked the Camino Navarro and Camino Frances. I didn't know that this would happen most when I reached Sarria, when a mass of mainly local Spanish pilgrims join the route, and it was disrupting for a day or two. When I next walked a longer route in Spain, I was mentally prepared for that, and to make it a part of my pilgrimage.

My reasons for preferring a longer pilgrimage route, as I noted earlier, are primarily logistical and financial. Getting from the antipodes takes considerable time and effort, and is expensive. It has little to do, if anything, from getting 'the best' from my pilgrimage. That is up to me and the effort that I put into my preparation, physical, mental and spiritual.

ps. during my preparation for my second pilgrimage, the Gudbrandsdalen to Trondheim, I was fortunate to find and follow the journey of @lovingkindness, who was walking from Trondheim to Santiago. I had met a couple of pilgrims who had walked from their homes in Belgium on my first pilgrimage, but @lovingkindness' journey (and journal) was a powerful story of commitment and dedication. I have since met a few others who have undertaken similar pilgrimages, and I am always impressed. While one of those might have been in the mold of the classic (male) adventurer, the remainder were otherwise quite ordinary people who had decided to undertake such journeys, and prepared themselves. If there is anything that I take out of this, it is that one does not have to be extraordinary to walk a pilgrimage route, and if I am dedicated to anything, it is to helping ordinary people understand that they can.

 

[Former member 92300]

For me - I would only do the longer routes. First week is breaking in physically, second week is maybe finding your physical groove. After that - you might start really getting into the "personal spirituality" or "reflection"... but that takes a couple weeks to go through. I personally don't feel like you get to those deep levels unless you have been on the trail for several weeks. And those I talk to who have done the longer hikes always say the same. Not sure most people can get into the deep levels of thought on Camino's that last a week or two. Maybe some do - but what you go through week after week changes... and the more time you are out on the trail, the more it seems to affect us. And if you are one who has lots of aches and pains the first week or two... you will never experience the joy that follows those days of aches and pains if you don't keep walking. Ok - some people never get past the aches and pains - but most of us do and we love it. That is why we keep going back.

I personally, however, would never go with a friend. A family member, maybe. But not with a friend. The Camino is such a personal experience and I am not sure I could do it with having to worry about whomever is walking with me day after day. Even family members I would think seriously about which ones I would consider taking with me.

 

[Sirage]

I think what I want is to see what the long walk from SJPP-SDC will do to me.

I recall when doing a "fuller" version of a Camino I heard a French person saying it takes about 3 weeks to get track-tough (physically, mentally et al). I suspect the expression in French (which I don't recall) might have a nice ring to it.

It takes time to get in a state of flow. If that is what you are interested in.

 

[MichaelC]

I'm with all those others who wrote that it was the length of time that was important to me, rather than doing a "full" camino.

I personally, however, would never go with a friend. A family member, maybe. But not with a friend. The Camino is such a personal experience and I am not sure I could do it with having to worry about whomever is walking with me day after day. Even family members I would think seriously about which ones I would consider taking with me.

Ditto. I actually withdrew an invite to have friends join me on my next walk; I realized I was doing a lot of planning around what I thought their needs would be, and it stopped being my journey. Or rather, my journey would have been taking care of them. And I'll do that on a normal trip, but not on the camino.

I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary.

That's perfectly understandable - I think a lot of us felt that same strong desire. Do it!

 

[CWBuff]

How important?.....
Enough to ask for (and thankfully get) 6 weeks of PTO. Plan for it for 2.5 years. Looking forward to it as the time drew near.....
5 weeks to walk SJPdP --> SdC, meet my wife there, take 3 days rest and then walk to Finisterre together
Yes there were various issue on the walk...but I would not trade the overall experience for nothing and was (and still am) totally in AWE of it

As a more meaningful explanation IMHO what I wanted to do (and what I consider I did do) was a Religious\Spiritual Pilgrimage. As such it was not conceivable to me to break it into the chunks\stages....
In retrospect if I had more time I probably take close to 7 weeks just to walk CF - that would afford me a very comfortable pace and ability to play tourist in many places I did not

 

[SabsP]

I walked with a local group years ago on a daypilgrimage to Scherpenheuvel and felt more a pilgrim than on one of my longer Caminos.

Home - Scherpenheuvel

Home

www.scherpenheuvel.be

The key is intention.

And on the five days Camino Ingles I found more introspection than on 35 days on the Frances.

It is all very subjective and personal.

 

[trecile]

As a more meaningful explanation IMHO what I wanted to do (and what I consider I did do) was a Religious\Spiritual Pilgrimage. As such it was not conceivable to me to break it into the chunks\stages..

I'm sure that there are many who feel that they don't need to walk continuously for weeks in order to complete a religious pilgrimage. In fact most other religious pilgrimage sites in the world are traveled to by bus or car!

 

[CWBuff]

I'm sure that there are many who feel that they don't need to walk continuously for weeks in order to complete a religious pilgrimage. In fact most other religious pilgrimage sites in the world are traveled to by bus or car!

I wont argue that - I merely indicated as to what I felt and what it meant to me. I know that if I did an interruption (and by that I do mean "finish stage A, leave say for a given period of time, come back to that point later on and continue") it would not have worked for me... I'd get on a totally different mindset than i would wanted
tis all

 

[SabsP]

I'm sure that there are many who feel that they don't need to walk continuously for weeks in order to complete a religious pilgrimage. In fact most other religious pilgrimage sites in the world are traveled to by bus or car!

Thank you @trecile ! Like I wrote already years ago here : my grandmother ( way in her eighties ) walked only from the carpark to the Sanctuary in Banneux but in my eyes ( and certainly in the eyes of the God she believed in ) she was far more a good person and a good catholic than I will ever be.

 

[Scottish Paul]

It's a brilliant question - I did the "full" CF in 2018 - turned up at StJPdP because I thought it was what you had to do - the next year I walked in Germany - on a Camino trail - arrived in Hamburg to a sign pointing to SdC 2300 Kms away - next Camino for me I will start from my front door in Scotland

 

[CWBuff]

It's a brilliant question - I did the "full" CF in 2018 - turned up at StJPdP because I thought it was what you had to do -

We're NOT?!

next Camino for me I will start from my front door in Scotland

Walk on Water?

 

[Anthony Rocco]

I recall when doing a "fuller" version of a Camino I heard a French person saying it takes about 3 weeks to get track-tough (physically, mentally et al). I suspect the expression in French (which I don't recall) might have a nice ring to it.

It takes time to get in a state of flow. If that is what you are interested in.

I was told before my first camino that it takes 9 days. And that's exactly what took place with us. Our first days found us not feeling spiritual at all. In fact, we thought all those who told us how marvelous the camino was were insane. Even more insane were those who walked it more than once.

After 9 days, we had resolved our blister and shoes issues, jettisoned items we didn't need, got into the routine of up early, on the road, breaks for sustenance, visit a cultural site if any, arrive at our destination, shower, wash clothes, write journal, socialize and have dinner. While every day was different in terms of experiences, having the routine down and being in good shape, made the rest so wonderful.

Ivar and others continue to report that those who walk from Sarria and Tui say they felt nothing spiritual or moving. It was just another walk. That's sad.

 

[SabsP]

Ivar and others continue to report that those who walk from Sarria and Tui say they felt nothing spiritual or moving. It was just another walk. That's sad.

What a blunt generalisation! This is not what I have been reading here the last ten years.
Ah well...time for me now to go for my eveningwalk.

 

[Anthony Rocco]

What a blunt generalisation! This is not what I have been reading here the last ten years.
Ah well...time for me now to go for my eveningwalk.

Watch one of Ivar's recent videos. He was interviewing the guy behind wise pilgrim, as I recall. Not my words...theirs. I don't want shorter caminos, so I wouldn't know. But I recall being warned that when I reached Sarria and joined the crowds, there would be an element of us (the long walkers) vs them, especially when would be chatting in the albergue. I didn't find that true because there was no point in me talking about what happened before. They couldn't relate and it really wouldn't matter to them.

 

[SabsP]

Watch one of Ivar's recent videos. He was interviewing the guy behind wise pilgrim, as I recall. Not my words...theirs. I don't want shorter caminos, so I wouldn't know. But I recall being warned that when I reached Sarria and joined the crowds, there would be an element of us (the long walkers) vs them, especially when would be chatting in the albergue. I didn't find that true because there was no point in me talking about what happened before. They couldn't relate and it really wouldn't matter to them.

I had some very meaningful talks with " those who did the last 100k ".
I started in Roncesvalles and was also more than happy that the pilgrim who started in Paris was not snobbish towards me because I started so much closer to Santiago.

I will never forget the group of fellow Belgians who walked the way from Sarria with an average of ten k. per day. Yes they used an extra vehicle for support and rest.
And no it was not always to be seen from the exterior they had a physical impairment.

Might be me but I do not think in terms of " us and them". It is limiting and arrogant.
Cheers and all the best!

 

[AidaYYC]

How important was it to you to do what might be called the "full" CF from SJPP to Santiago in one go?

I know a lot of people split it up into stages for various reasons (health, time, money), while some prefer the one long journey, and perhaps some people would only do the whole thing in one go.

(the background to this question is that due to a discussion with my buddy about CF, I realize I have a very strong desire about doing CF SJPP-SDC in one go, yet perhaps strangely I would have no problem splitting up any of the other routes if necessary. For instance, I would easily agree to split up Le Puy to SJPP if needed.

My friend also prefers to do the CF in one trip but may end up only being able to split up the CF into a couple trips. So I am just reassessing my own thoughts about it all before we have to make a decision. Right now it looks like we will be doing it all at once but I want to be prepared)

What was your experience? Either doing it in stages or in one long go, were you happy with your decision? Would you do it differently?

If you are still in the planning stages, what are your thoughts about this?

I live in Western Canada, so for me it was a big commitment of time and money and needed to make it count. So, I was doing it in one go and as I was passing the various milestones, ie., half way point at Sahagun, the last 100 km in Sarria, approaching Santiago, and later on arrival in front of the Cathedral still wearing my backpack, I dropped to one knee, shed a few tears and gave thanks. It proved to be a very rewarding spiritual journey, which I will treasure the rest of my life. Regardless of how you choose to do it, make it count and enjoy it. Buen Camino!

 

[AidaYYC]

It is within the spirit of St. James, to rid ourselves of our arrogance and allow others do their own Camino ...

 

[Anthony Rocco]

To me, the Camino is an exceptional experience. It's not like the many long walks I have done in England, Wales, Scotland, France, Italy or even the U.S. Those are unforgettable experiences to be sure, with new friends, many challenges, many joys, many emotions. There are camino-like in many ways...but they are not the Camino.

Before walking every camino, I work to transition from my daily life to that of a pilgrim on a pilgrimage. I don't do that when I walk the Potomac Heritage Trail, the Sea to Sea (C2C), the Pembrokeshire Coast, along the Rhine or many other places. These are unforgettable hikes...but not caminos. I'm kinda struggling with how to view one of my next ventures: St. Cuthbert's Way. Is that a camino? I need to study this more.

So be it. You win. I apologize from my seeming arrogance, but I do believe in "camino exceptionalism"...and always will.

 

[Rebekah Scott]

It was very important for me to do the "full" camino. When I first walked from Roncesvalles to Santiago in 2001, I didn't think I'd have another chance to take so much time from work and travel so far and spend so much money. It was a once-in-a-lifetime trip, and I aimed to do it as a true pilgrimage --- a stripped-down, hardcore long-distance walk with a spiritual purpose.
It worked.
Here I am, all these years later, a Camino Busybody!
My way is clearly not the only way. But the Camino de Santiago is a Thing. It is not whatever you want it to be. It is first and foremost and historically a pilgrimage. IMHO it ought to be respected as such, and not watered-down into a short-hop anything-goes tourist vacationland.
But that's just me.

 

[CWBuff]

But I recall being warned that when I reached Sarria and joined the crowds, there would be an element of us (the long walkers) vs them, especially when would be chatting in the albergue. I didn't find that true because there was no point in me talking about what happened before. They couldn't relate and it really wouldn't matter to them.

Ladies and Gentlemen.... IMHO it is pointless to take offence because we all express our own perceptions of things. I can speak for myself inasmuch as that when I joined this Forum any time someone said "its my Camino" (or suggested to someone that "Its YOUR Camino") I would get quite angry because at the time it didnt didnt have the same context (I based the phrase on my previous experiences)> Only when I actually started walking and lived it for a bit I understood what "MY" Camino was and from that moment non - no matter who did what I simply stopped being judgmental ...
Now, that said here are 3 situations that truly stand out in my mind when it comes to folks who started from Sarria:
1. 3 Spanish sisters and their husbands who upon hearing that I started in SJ insisted to take me to a bar and buy me a cerveza (turned out a bit more than one ) - this was in Melide
2. Another Spanish lady - quite young - whom I walked with in the pouring rain from Arzua to A Brea ... she hardly spoke any English and my Spanish even after 4.5 weeks was still not up to par to have meaningful conversations... and yet we chatted and laughed and had a marvelous time non-stop
3. A husband and wife from Poland - whom I met in Ferreiros (and subsequently a lady from Netherlands and another from Ireland) - although we never walked together we all wound up being in the same albergues 90% of the time all the way to Santiago and spent every evening while in Santiago together (and yes I felt that they were "my Camino Family")

Most of the folks upon hearing that I started "Way over in SJ" were simply amazed (I thought it was funny - I mean surely they all heard that lots of folks do the distance). Never I had this "us and them" feeling - (thats Pink Floyd song for me and as a matter of side thingy - I could never figure out are they talking about Earthlings and Aliens or perhaps Men and Women)

We all related to our won walking and our own Caminos. The magic was there, the Camaraderie was there... that is one of many of beauties and experiences of Camino

May we all enjoy it for many years!

 

[AidaYYC]

To me, the Camino is an exceptional experience. It's not like the many long walks I have done in England, Wales, Scotland, France, Italy or even the U.S. Those are unforgettable experiences to be sure, with new friends, many challenges, many joys, many emotions. There are camino-like in many ways...but they are not the Camino.

Before walking every camino, I work to transition from my daily life to that of a pilgrim on a pilgrimage. I don't do that when I walk the Potomac Heritage Trail, the Sea to Sea (C2C), the Pembrokeshire Coast, along the Rhine or many other places. These are unforgettable hikes...but not caminos. I'm kinda struggling with how to view one of my next ventures: St. Cuthbert's Way. Is that a camino? I need to study this more.

So be it. You win. I apologize from my seeming arrogance, but I do believe in "camino exceptionalism"...and always will.

I think we agree more than disagree. Yes, those other trails, walks are camino-like, but no the Camino. Do not apologize for your opinion, but enjoy whatever you do next

 

[Scottish Paul]

It's a brilliant question - I did the "full" CF in 2018 - turned up at StJPdP because I thought it was what you had to do - the next year I walked in Germany - on a Camino trail - arrived in Hamburg to a sign pointing to SdC 2300 Kms away - next Camino for me I will start from my front door in Scotland

I'm going to cheat - walk to edinburgh airport and start from Amsterdam Schiphol lol but head to Rome this time

 

[Harland2019]

To me, the Camino is an exceptional experience. It's not like the many long walks I have done in England, Wales, Scotland, France, Italy or even the U.S. Those are unforgettable experiences to be sure, with new friends, many challenges, many joys, many emotions. There are camino-like in many ways...but they are not the Camino.

Before walking every camino, I work to transition from my daily life to that of a pilgrim on a pilgrimage. I don't do that when I walk the Potomac Heritage Trail, the Sea to Sea (C2C), the Pembrokeshire Coast, along the Rhine or many other places. These are unforgettable hikes...but not caminos. I'm kinda struggling with how to view one of my next ventures: St. Cuthbert's Way. Is that a camino? I need to study this more.

So be it. You win. I apologize from my seeming arrogance, but I do believe in "camino exceptionalism"...and always will.

Having also completed a lot of the UK National Trails the Camino, for me, is quite a lot different. Not from the religious standpoint but from the comradeship of other walkers which is made so much easier because of the numbers actually walking. The sun and food also help!

 

[Anthony Rocco]

Having also completed a lot of the UK National Trails the Camino, for me, is quite a lot different. Not from the religious standpoint but from the comradeship of other walkers which is made so much easier because of the numbers actually walking. The sun and food also help!

They are definitely different from the Frances regarding everything you noted. We've walked a number of caminos where the number of others is few to none. On the Camino Madrid, for example, one we truly cherished, we were embraced at every stop by the villagers. As for fellow peregrinos, only a handful now and then.

We still consider the Frances "The Camino," but it's a completely different experience from those in France, or the Aragones, or the Portugues...or (fill in the blank). But I don't think of any of these as simply long walks. They are Camino de Santiago pilgrimages.

The most spiritual/religious camino we have walked is the Camino Ignaziano, from Loyola to Montserrat and Manresa. That is indeed a camino in the pilgrimage sense, perhaps even more than the Camino de Santiago. One starts in Loyola, the birthplace of Inigo, a Basque we call Ignatius, founder of the Society of Jesus (Jesuits) with stops in Zaragoza, itself a shrine honoring Santiago, and for several hundred years even more popular than going to Santiago. Then finally in Montserrat, where he laid down his sword, arguably THE most scenic site on any camino, and finally in Manresa, where he spent 8 months composing his still widely used spiritual exercises. Unlike the Camino de Santiago, there is no legend with this camino. He traveled this route in 1522. Because of the 500th anniversary of this journey, it's a Holy Year for this camino.

It is an incredibly beautiful route, but not an easy one. For those intrepid, experienced, and valuing spirituality and introspection above comeraderie and fellowship, it's a very special camino.

 

[Rita Flower]

My way is clearly not the only way. But the Camino de Santiago is a Thing. It is not whatever you want it to be. It is first and foremost and historically a pilgrimage. IMHO it ought to be respected as such, and not watered-down into a short-hop anything-goes tourist vacationland.
But that's just me.
[/QUOTE]

And me.
I’ve just completed my third Camino (VDLP from Sevilla) so have had many hours to contemplate what this Camino de Santiago is all about. And what it means in Spain and to the Spanish people. Many reflections arose and I will share a few
1. Firstly there is the pilgrim’s personality. I am a start to finish person in nearly all I do. So I started in SJPP, Lisbon and Sevilla. I need to remember that others can get the same result doing things differently.
2. We all have different capacities in body, mind and finances which will impact how we are actually able to approach our Camino.
3. Intention is everything. I think this might be nearly the most important point. Is this a cheap holiday in Spain or a pilgrimage or….
4. Finally and most importantly- my experience is that the Camino has a mind of its own. It will call you when it’s time and let you know for how long. It will give you what you need. And it will change you forever -sometimes obviously and other times subtly

My advice. Listen carefully to the voice of the Camino. It won’t necessarily make sense but if you follow that voice, that urge, that strange message, you can’t go wrong.

PS. Apologies if I mucked up the formatting- I’m on my phone

 

[Harland2019]

My way is clearly not the only way. But the Camino de Santiago is a Thing. It is not whatever you want it to be. It is first and foremost and historically a pilgrimage. IMHO it ought to be respected as such, and not watered-down into a short-hop anything-goes tourist vacationland.
But that's just me.

I am not wanting a disagreement but does the comment about "anything goes tourist vacationland" mean non-religious people shouldn't walk the/a Camino route? Because I am not religious I guess I am on vacation undertaking a long walk. I respect that for others it is a religious experience although in all my discussions with fellow pilgrims (??walkers??) I have never met anyone who didn't think that it was an enjoyable experience with fellow people no matter their own beliefs. It also has the benefit of putting some funds into the much-needed villages along "The Way".

 

[pepi]

I am not wanting a disagreement but does the comment about "anything goes tourist vacationland" mean non-religious people shouldn't walk the/a Camino route? Because I am not religious I guess I am on vacation undertaking a long walk. I respect that for others it is a religious experience although in all my discussions with fellow pilgrims (??walkers??) I have never met anyone who didn't think that it was an enjoyable experience with fellow people no matter their own beliefs. It also has the benefit of putting some funds into the much-needed villages along "The Way".

Like you, I am not religious but have never in all my Camino's experienced any repercussions from "true pilgrims". I always had the impression to be part of a majority who choose to walk the Camino for the self-enriching experience and the good company. Again like you, I completely respect everyone's beliefs but I avoid discussing an oxymoron that inevitably leads nowhere. Beliefs are like tastes, "de gustibus non est disputandum"
Otoh, I have given up resisting the label "pilgrim", I am one, by my definition; I, therefore, have no qualms about getting my Compostela.

 

[dougfitz]

does the comment about "anything goes tourist vacationland" mean non-religious people shouldn't walk the/a Camino route?

I wouldn't have interpreted @Rebekah Scott's remarks this way. However, her call to consider that a pilgrimage should have a spiritual purpose might challenge both those who consider themselves religious as well as those who don't. This doesn't preclude anyone walking the Camino routes, but it does go to whether they might be entitled to the support offered to pilgrims along the way, and to receive the Compostala when they complete their journey.